That's what forums are all about, aren't they? I'd still like to say that it'd be nice if you removed the video from the first post (if it's possible in options) because it (both video & thumbnail) mocks Muslims.
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That's what forums are all about, aren't they? I'd still like to say that it'd be nice if you removed the video from the first post (if it's possible in options) because it (both video & thumbnail) mocks Muslims.
It doesn't break any of the forum rules so it't a-ok to be here!
blue taylor
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Why would you care if it mocks Muslims or not. You do not care if other posts mock Christians, JW's, Mormons, Atheist, Deist, Catholics, Satanist, Pastafarians, Druze, Jews, Hindu's, or Yazidi?
I haven't seen any other threads mocking Christians, Witnesses, Mormons, Deists, Jews, etc. And if I did I would react the same way because I have respect to others and wouldn't post something which was blasphemous for them.
To be fair, Jesus isn't all that kind in the NT, himself. He makes demons go into a herd of pigs which run off a cliff (animal cruelty), he curses a fig tree (that's just mean), he's rude to his mother, he tells a parable that ends with a command to bring disobedient people to him and kill them in front of him, he encourages self-mutilation, he encourages apocalyptic end of the world beliefs, he tells his followers that they must love him more than their own parents and children (that's extremely dysfunctional), he encouraged his followers to leave their families behind and follow him (that's abandonment), he told a person who had to bury his father to forget about that and join his traveling cult, he's racist towards non-Jews who approach him for help and only helps them after they degrade themselves before him, etc.
The actual Jesus of the Gospel stories is more akin to Charles Manson, David Koresh or Jim Jones than the sanitized, romanticized version we're used to hearing about. No surprise that many of these modern cult leaders either claim to be the second coming of Christ or are heavily influenced by him. He's a prototypical narcissistic charismatic cult leader with a megalomanical bent who encourages his followers to disassociate from society and their own families and formed a sort of traveling commune (creates an insular setting of reinforcement of belief that often turns into a trap), the world outside of the cult is to be shunned as it is viewed as being under the influence of an evil force (promotes paranoia and distrust of outsiders and outside points of view), he taught that the end of the world is nigh and was supposed to have happened at any moment (promotes more paranoia and fanaticism), malevolent spiritual beings are believed to be around every corner (promotes delusion), sick or ill people were believed to be possessed by demons (promotes delusion and a shunning of actual medicine), etc.
If Jesus was wandering around today, we'd think he was a crank. Most of us would, anyway.
It makes me recall a funny memory. One time I was in line at the store and I was wearing one of my Charles Manson shirts and this dude says to me "Jesus loves you". I just chuckled. I should've responded with "Jesus is just the world's best known cult leader" and/or "Charlie and Jesus are more far more alike than you think".
The actual Jesus of the Gospel stories is more akin to Charles Manson, David Koresh or Jim Jones than the sanitized, romanticized version we're used to hearing about. No surprise that many of these modern cult leaders either claim to be the second coming of Christ or are heavily influenced by him. He's a prototypical narcissistic charismatic cult leader with a megalomanical bent who encourages his followers to disassociate from society and their own families and formed a sort of traveling commune (creates an insular setting of reinforcement of belief that often turns into a trap), the world outside of the cult is to be shunned as it is viewed as being under the influence of an evil force (promotes paranoia and distrust of outsiders and outside points of view), he taught that the end of the world is nigh and was supposed to have happened at any moment (promotes more paranoia and fanaticism), malevolent spiritual beings are believed to be around every corner (promotes delusion), sick or ill people were believed to be possessed by demons (promotes delusion and a shunning of actual medicine), etc.
If Jesus was wandering around today, we'd think he was a crank. Most of us would, anyway.
It makes me recall a funny memory. One time I was in line at the store and I was wearing one of my Charles Manson shirts and this dude says to me "Jesus loves you". I just chuckled. I should've responded with "Jesus is just the world's best known cult leader" and/or "Charlie and Jesus are more far more alike than you think".
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blue taylor
Active Member
I see you don't look at many threads here.I haven't seen any other threads mocking Christians, Witnesses, Mormons, Deists, Jews, etc. And if I did I would react the same way because I have respect to others and wouldn't post something which was blasphemous for them.
I don't stick my nose in places where I don't belong.
And giving that I'm quite "young" on this website I didn't see much of it to be honest, there's enough time for everything.
I'll stop posting now to similar posts since it's kinda off-topic.
blue taylor
Active Member
I disagree. I see Jesus as the hippie of his time. Wandering around without making a living. Living on very little. Running around with twelve young men. (Gay?) Mary Magdalene (bi?). Preaching love, forgiveness, and always healing others (marijuana perhaps). And last but not least "treat others as you would have them treat you".
Charles Manson was a product of hippie culture, too. The '60s produced all sorts of entertaining cults. Let's not pretend that the hippies were only about love, peace, flowers and acid. They had a dark side, too.
blue taylor
Active Member
There is lots of religion bashing on this site. There is lots of religious disrespect on this site. If you use your own scripture to defend or explain your religion, others will use the same scripture to show why you are wrong. I tried reading the Quran but I couldn't get past the cow. As someone else said "you better bring your A-Game here". The idea that the Quran can not be read in another language is idiotic. It just hasn't been translated by a Arabic speaking English translator.
Templar of Truth
Member
Thanks for your openness to discuss.
It kinda needs to stay up there for the post to make sense. But we can talk about the truths in the video and the misconceptions in it. I don't mean to be disrespectful I'm just trying to get a better understanding of Islam and I wanted I m know how accurate that viral video was.
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arthra
Baha'i
There are centuries of conflict between Christianity and Islam and prejudices as well ... For a good book online that tells another story than the violence I recommend
https://archive.org/details/preachingislama00arnogoog
DawudTalut
Peace be upon you.
Peace be on you.
Please try this translation:
https://www.alislam.org/quran/tafseer/?page=1®ion=EN
(There is long commentary version too)
DawudTalut
Peace be upon you.
Peace be on you.
1= IMO, Raahim as a seeker, did his best. May Allah best reward him.
2=You may want to see some 28 videos about Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him, and all Prophets) which are about various aspects @
https://www.alislam.org/v/k-Holy_Prophet_Muhammad.html
3=For written material about Holy Prophet (s.a.w.), you can check:
https://www.alislam.org/holyprophet/
Tomorrows_Child
Active Member
I hope some of your questions have been answered and misconceptions alleviated.
Tomorrows_Child
Active Member
Why could you not get past the second chapter?
Templar of Truth
Member
blue taylor
Active Member
It wasn't translated into everyday English. I'll look for one in everyday English.
On the contrary, Christianity has produced many fine Christians despite Paul's efforts.
Tomorrows_Child
Active Member
I think you quoted the wrong post but yeah, I understand. Thing is, most translations are in slightly formal/old fashioned English. It's not the type you'd read in a modern english book. Is English your first language? If not look for it in a different langaage, one you are more comfortable with.