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how old is the oldest christian bible?

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Here are two different links from New Advent Catholic Encylopedia. One of them is about the canon of the Old Testament and the other is about the canon of the New Testament.

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Canon of the Old Testament

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Canon of the New Testament

From what I understand the canon of the Old Testament was settled from the very beginning because the canon of the Old Testament in use by the Jews at the time of Jesus is the same canon of the Old Testament that Christians used ever since the beginning. The Jews did change the canon of the Old Testament some time after the time of Christ from what I understand but I don't know why they did so.

As for the canon of the New Testament, it was highly debated on which books to include for a few centuries but then the Church finally decided which books to officially include in the canon of the New Testament at one of the Church councils. I know that the Council of Trent defined what the canon of the Bible would be but I am not sure if they did this in response to some Protestants rejecting the Deuterocanonicals or what.

The Catholic church has its own view about the canon. This differs to that held by the orthodox churches and the protestant ones. There has never been a universal canon. Nor anything called "The Church"
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
i wasn't talking about evidence. just what is believed by Christians whether there's enough evidence or not.

There is no such thing as "what Christians believe"
All flavours of Christians believe things differently according to their own dogma.
Even with in a given church, members have different beliefs according to their study and understanding.

For instance our priests, who teaches widely both here and in the USA, does not believe in substitutionary atonement (in simple words "that Jesus died for our sins")

Nor did any one else, until the 11th century when Anslem of Canterbury first came up with this novel concept.

This concept is one of the most widely held by Christians today.

The Idea that all Christians hold to the same set of beliefs is ludicrous.
 

kloth

Active Member
There is no such thing as "what Christians believe"
All flavours of Christians believe things differently according to their own dogma.
Even with in a given church, members have different beliefs according to their study and understanding.

For instance our priests, who teaches widely both here and in the USA, does not believe in substitutionary atonement (in simple words "that Jesus died for our sins")

Nor did any one else, until the 11th century when Anslem of Canterbury first came up with this novel concept.

This concept is one of the most widely held by Christians today.

The Idea that all Christians hold to the same set of beliefs is ludicrous.

they all have a basic foundation, those who are sincere at their faith that is. even if they don't see eye to eye on every little thing. they all believe in god, right?
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
they all have a basic foundation, those who are sincere at their faith that is. even if they don't see eye to eye on every little thing. they all believe in god, right?

So do people of any faith.....


People are often more concerned about "Differences" than than they are about "Similarities"
 
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