How shall we correct this injustice?

[SkepticThinker]

Yes! A 52 years old Journalist afraid to confront the world and do the right thing?
She doesn't feel a need to save other women.

Change comes from within first.
Before you start fixing others, fix yourself.

You are blindly supporting a 52 old lady who reported the incident when she was 75 years old.
Something wrong with the culture all right! I see it.
The culture is saying - you should keep your fights to be fought when you are 75 years old. Many more fools will believe an older lady of 75 than a 52 year old lady.

You should look into the reasons women don't report rapes when they occur. There's a whole thread about it here.
You are part of the problem by perpetuating this point of view.

Guess what? I was raped when I was 13 and didn't report it because I was ashamed and afraid that people wouldn't believe me and I knew that people would defame me the way you're defaming E. Jean Carroll and the same way Trump defamed her.
Please do better.

 

[crossfire]

Ok, but how does one feel when they are the agressive one in BSDM? I have zilch experience on that, but while sparring I felt powerful while landing hits. I can only imagine that the agressive one is going to feel the same in BSDM.

One way or another it doesn't matter much. It seems that violence in both cases is serving as a sexual stimulus.

Not necessarily. I've heard that some doms really enjoy witnessing their subs transform pain into pleasure.

 

[BrightShadow]

He was found civilly liable in a court of law by a judge and two juries of his peers.
You pretend this didn't happen because ... Dear Leader can do no wrong.
Well, Dear Leader did do wrong. And was held accountable for it. For once.

Your victim blaming is duly noted and dismissed.

You have to stand up to the nonsense thrown at you.
Trump over did it. He should have used his lawyers to do the talking.
I said many times - Trump likes to be in front of the mic.

The way he was attacked - you would say worse things if you could.
It is unknown to most of us - what we would do if someone makes things about us,
I agree most of us - will remain calmer than Trump.

 

[BrightShadow]

You should look into the reasons women don't report rapes when they occur. There's a whole thread about it here.
You are part of the problem by perpetuating this point of view.

Guess what? I was raped when I was 13 and didn't report it because I was ashamed and afraid that people wouldn't believe me and I knew that people would defame me the way you're defaming E. Jean Carroll and the same way Trump defamed her.
Please do better.

Sorry to hear that but that is exactly why you are so sensitive about this.
E Jean Carrol was 52 and she was a journalist. Had she reported it and took down Trump - may be others would have been saved. Don't you think? You think Trump was a rapist. Right?
E Jean Carrol took advantage of people like you.

 

[Koldo]

I am concluding that your interest is only in trying to pick apart rather than see what people are articulating very clearly. It tells me you have an agenda.

I will not be replying further, since all it does is give you another opportunity to reiterate what is obviously untrue. I'm quite certain that anyone lurking is already quite clear about what is going on here, thus, my objective is accomplished.

I am genuinely curious as to what you presume to be my agenda, other than what I plainly stated more than once.

I am also curious as to what you see as obivously untrue in what I have been stating.

You are obviously free to no longer reply to my posts though. I don't mind.

 

[crossfire]

Yes! A 52 years old Journalist afraid to confront the world and do the right thing?
She doesn't feel a need to save other women.

Change comes from within first.
Before you start fixing others, fix yourself.

You are blindly supporting a 52 old lady who reported the incident when she was 75 years old.
Something wrong with the culture all right! I see it.
The culture is saying - you should keep your fights to be fought when you are 75 years old. Many more fools will believe an older lady of 75 than a 52 year old lady.

Alright, fix yourself. What strategies would you suggest to encourage rapists to turn to self reflection and stop raping?

 

[Koldo]

You should look into the reasons women don't report rapes when they occur. There's a whole thread about it here.
You are part of the problem by perpetuating this point of view.

Guess what? I was raped when I was 13 and didn't report it because I was ashamed and afraid that people wouldn't believe me and I knew that people would defame me the way you're defaming E. Jean Carroll and the same way Trump defamed her.
Please do better.

Holy crap, at 13? I don't even know what to tell you...

 

[Koldo]

So, no evidence? I was hoping to see some evidence.

Justice system has been weaponized.

I would have believed E. Jean Carrol had she called the security at the Bergdorf Goodman store.
I have been to this store. It is impossible that the security won't come in her aid. Simply impossible! That is an insult for such a luxurious store.

Trump lived literally across from the store. Two sides of the same street (5th Ave.)

You have to be an idiot to do what he was accused of.

You have to be a bigger idiot (E Jean Carroll) to not report it. She was a 52 years old lady and she didn't know how to handle the situation? She didn't report it to the store authorities or the police at the time. She waited until Trump decided to run for the office (2019).

A 52 year old lady who was a journalist at the time doesn't know how to do the right thing?
If Trump was indeed a rapist then why didn't E. Jean Carrol expose him and protect potential future victims?
She waited 26 years!



You would say the opposite if you didn't hate Trump.
Dems are done.
There is no value to anything you say.
You are biased.
Understand how biased you sound and stop supporting Dems - before Dems lets you down any further.


@SkepticThinker @Revoltingest
I see your cheerleaders are right by your side.
Did you celebrate yesterday? Hump day!

Dude, stop it. Just stop it.
There was a judgment and he was found guilty. That's it. On what grounds could you possibly evaluate the dynamics of what happened better than the jury? None.

 

[SkepticThinker]

You have to stand up to the nonsense thrown at you.
Trump over did it. He should have used his lawyers to do the talking.
I said many times - Trump likes to be in front of the mic.

The way he was attacked - you would say worse things if you could.
It is unknown to most of us - what we would do if someone makes things about us,
I agree most of us - will remain calmer than Trump.

He should stop sexually assaulting people then.

 

[Koldo]

I speculate that if it's admitted that many rapes
are about sex, there's a fear that this might
suggest the victim is responsible to some extent.

Maybe, I really don't know. Maybe it is the result of overgeneralization from particularly peculiar cases.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Holy crap, at 13? I don't even know what to tell you...

Nuts, I know.
I've been dealing with anxiety and panic disorders every day since then.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Sorry to hear that but that is exactly why you are so sensitive about this.
E Jean Carrol was 52 and she was a journalist. Had she reported it and took down Trump - may be others would have been saved. Don't you think? You think Trump was a rapist. Right?
E Jean Carrol took advantage of people like you.

No, she didn't take advantage of me. I completely understand where she's coming from, having been there myself. But thanks for making me feel like I've let everyone down. Cool beans. I already think about that every day.

Again, thanks for demonstrating the very reasons that women don't speak up. It's because of attitudes like yours. Perhaps someone else reading this thread can learn something.

Oh and P.S. I tried reporting this rape just last year, when I was going through therapy. The police were pretty dismissive and my report went no where.

 

[crossfire]

Rape investigations haven't been of a very high priority. It's only been in the past few years that my state made the effort to process their backlog of rape kits--some going back to the 1990's. That is past the statute of limitations for adult victims, but there is no statute of limitations in the case of the rape of a child. It's as if the police do not want to investigate rape cases.
Here's a story of a rape victim that was charged with filing a false report and ordered to undergo psychological brainwashing to make her believe it never happened.

Rape victim suing Lynnwood police | HeraldNet.com

LYNNWOOD — The victim of a serial rapist is now suing the Lynnwood police detectives who once accused her of lying about being sexually assaulted.

www.heraldnet.com

 

[Samael_Khan]

I already said what I had to say. I stand by it.

Ah, ok, you stand by a person who was found liable for sexually assaulting woman. Got it.

 

[Samael_Khan]

So, no evidence? I was hoping to see some evidence.

Justice system has been weaponized.

I would have believed E. Jean Carrol had she called the security at the Bergdorf Goodman store.
I have been to this store. It is impossible that the security won't come in her aid. Simply impossible! That is an insult for such a luxurious store.

Trump lived literally across from the store. Two sides of the same street (5th Ave.)

You have to be an idiot to do what he was accused of.

You have to be a bigger idiot (E Jean Carroll) to not report it. She was a 52 years old lady and she didn't know how to handle the situation? She didn't report it to the store authorities or the police at the time. She waited until Trump decided to run for the office (2019).

A 52 year old lady who was a journalist at the time doesn't know how to do the right thing?
If Trump was indeed a rapist then why didn't E. Jean Carrol expose him and protect potential future victims?
She waited 26 years!



You would say the opposite if you didn't hate Trump.
Dems are done.
There is no value to anything you say.
You are biased.
Understand how biased you sound and stop supporting Dems - before Dems lets you down any further.


@SkepticThinker @Revoltingest
I see your cheerleaders are right by your side.
Did you celebrate yesterday? Hump day!

Again, you show ignorance of victim psychology after rape incidents. Go study that.

You would probably deny all rape cases against Trump too. Because in your mind Trump is a saint. Get out of the Trump cult bandwagon and then maybe you wouldn't be a rape denier and support a rapist.

 

[Samael_Khan]

Yes! A 52 years old Journalist afraid to confront the world and do the right thing?
She doesn't feel a need to save other women.

Change comes from within first.
Before you start fixing others, fix yourself.

You are blindly supporting a 52 old lady who reported the incident when she was 75 years old.
Something wrong with the culture all right! I see it.
The culture is saying - you should keep your fights to be fought when you are 75 years old. Many more fools will believe an older lady of 75 than a 52 year old lady.

See? You blame the victim rather than the perpetrator. You are an example of the cultural problem.

 

[Foxfyre]

Ah, ok, you stand by a person who was found liable for sexually assaulting woman. Got it.

No. I didn't say anything like that either. But do have a good night.

 

[Samael_Khan]

No. I didn't say anything like that either. But do have a good night.

Trump was found liable in court. You defend Trump. The logical conclusion then follows.

 

[BrightShadow]

Again, you show ignorance of victim psychology after rape incidents. Go study that.

You would probably deny all rape cases against Trump too. Because in your mind Trump is a saint. Get out of the Trump cult bandwagon and then maybe you wouldn't be a rape denier and support a rapist.

and support a rapist.

Are you seriously calling Trump a rapist?
I am not here to educate you. Not sure anyone can.
But I can tell you - you got all your facts wrong. You know nothing about our justice system in USA.

Which country are you from? We need to stop coming in your aid.

Google the following question: "Is Trump a convicted rapist?"

You will be shocked at what you will learn.

Trump was NEVER convicted of rape.
E Jean Carroll's lawsuit was a civil trial. All about the money!
Trump was never criminally charged. Trump was found, by a jury, liable for battery (on civil grounds) and defamation.
On Civil grounds only! There is no criminal consequences to finding of 'liability' in a civil court.
So stop calling him a rapist like an ignorant person.

It is annoying to respond to gullible folks who hang their common sense and decency in their basement closet and then come here and respond just to score some points with other biased and gullible folks.

You likeminded folks need a reality check.

If E Jean Carroll put up a good performance at the court (and doubt she did) then I would agree she was indeed raped by someone in her early days BUT it is extremely unlikely that she was raped by Trump. Trump was 49 years old at the time and a multi millionaire who was a renowned figure. He was conducting and hosting models and beauty pageant competitions around the globe. E Jean was a 52 year old Journalist at the time of incident.
If a 52 years old Journalist doesn't know how to handle such situation after being attacked then it is indeed a worrisome culture we live in. Lucky for us - I am certain - she faked it.

Let me ask you a question:
Assuming you are a man - have you EVER gone in the dressing room (changing section) with a woman you hardly knew - in any luxurious department store? Have you ever been to Bergdorf Goodman?
Google the store and check out how luxurious this store is. Check out their designer merchandise. Most folks can't afford it.


Prada, Jimmy Choo, Gucci, Lanvin, Dolce & Gabbana - Bergdorf Goodman


Let me rephrase my question - have you ever gone in the dressing room (changing section) with any woman you hardly knew? Dressing rooms and especially the section you try out different clothes - is not made for two people to go in together. Period!

Teenagers might do it for the purpose of fooling around.

So, why did she go in the dressing-room with him? She hardly knew him. Did he drag her in there? Trump didn't even remember ever knowing her - otherwise he would have claimed consensual from the get-go.

I am not going to continue educating you. This could be my last post to you.
Say what you want. You are just looking to score some points with your likeminded biased folks. You are not even genuine.

 

[BrightShadow]

Dude, stop it. Just stop it.
There was a judgment and he was found guilty. That's it. On what grounds could you possibly evaluate the dynamics of what happened better than the jury? None.

Due to the fact that the Dems weaponized the justice system and the fact that - New York City is filled with Koldos and crazy Dems who hate Trump - I am sure Trump did not receive a fair trial.

But now he is the President-elect of the United States! And now it is time for you guys to experience a 4 years mental agony.

Must be depressing to be a Koldo or a Dem now. No?

You are already suffering - so I am going to leave it that. I shouldn't go overboard by rubbing it in your and your friends faces any further.
I gave you a tiny dose. Share it with your counterparts. Rub it on your faces. Sharing is caring!