How should we pray?

[Thief]

I don't think he's real, and if anything I am drawing closer to God and increasing in compassion, love and non-judgmentalism of others. This is the exact opposite of what an alleged-to-exist Satan would want (of course now I'm guilty of the sin of pride ).

Did someone say 'machines'....as in one motion following another.

This I know all too well.

One choice follows another.
One commitment leads to another.
Like a machine.

How should we pray?

Typically...I say...'What do I do now?'

And I tend to leave the Boss alone.
I don't ask very often.

btw ....Someone has to be the worst of all.....

 

[Jainarayan]

I don't usually ask either, except for similar to yours "what do I do now?" or "please tell me what to do, I'm at a loss". That's totally surrendering oneself to him (or her ), I think. But usually it's "oh! thank you!" (srsly).

 

[Me Myself]

Why is this in scriptural debates if you dont want us to quote you the scripture that answers your question?

You gave the answer in the OP.

Do you want non biblical scriptures or something? Cause that could easily be arranged

 

[Awoon]

Are you suggesting Abraham did not hear from God or the angels?
That Jesus and the Devil did not converse in the wilderness?

So...where is the line drawn?
The prophets never had dialog with heaven?

And if you were to 'hear' a disembodied Voice.....
Would you surrender your every deed to it?

Mankinds own thoughts suggest to do good/evil, no God or Devil needed.

 

[Iti oj]

This seems like a simple enough question. Please give expanation of what we should pray for. Don't just quote the Lords prayer from Matthew 6:9-13 or Luke 11:2-4. I could have done that myself.

Dear iti oj how can I be better then you

 

[Reverend Richard]

I appreciate your point of view.

And I, yours.

However, it is not God who leads us into temptation. Rather, God allows each of us to decide whether we will serve him or take the position the first man took, and abandon God to do what we think is best. As to Satan being real, Satan offered Jesus all the kingdoms of the earth in exchange for an act of worship.

Yes, metaphorical accounts of temptation by satan and other demons appear in other religions. Christianity was not the first. The temptation of Jesus appears in detail in the book of Matthew. What's interesting about these "temptations" is that they ring hollow. Jesus was a man, but he was also God in the form of flesh. Satan was offering Jesus what he already had. Where was the temptation?

This account and others in the Bible show Satan is a real and malicious spirit person, once a son of God who rebelled and became an oppose and a slanderer.

There is still nothing to indicate this event was real, simply because it appeared in the Bible. The story was meant as a lesson - a parable - to show that the world offers us temptations that will lead us astray. But nothing indicates the story literally happend. In fact we have no idea who wrote the book of Matthew.

The Bible tells us to oppose the devil. If we do not believe he is real, we are, I think, easy prey for his machinations. (Ephesians 6:10-18)

Yes, we should oppose evil in all its forms, but still, there is no indication that satan is a physical entity.

 

[Sumit]

give expanation of what we should pray for.

Pray for Knowledge and contentment with devotion.

 

[chinu]

Like.. the old movie dialogs doesn't work on beautiful girls, Similarly.. the old prayers doesn't work on God, because they haven't came out from our heart.

 

[Iti oj]

Like.. the old movie dialogs doesn't work on beautiful girls, Similarly.. the old prayers doesn't work on God, because they haven't came out from our heart.

Very valid and interesting point. I think its a good argument against organied religion and current understanding of God. That being said I see lots of counter arguments like I do this because it is my heart I study and show this devotion because I feel it.

But what about expression?

 

[Domenic]

This seems like a simple enough question. Please give expanation of what we should pray for. Don't just quote the Lords prayer from Matthew 6:9-13 or Luke 11:2-4. I could have done that myself.

A payer is in three parts:
Praise, Petition, and thanks.
God says (Petition part) : “you pray and you pray, and your prayer is not answered. It is because you are asking for the wrong thing.” This leaves a question each must ask, ”What is the right thing to ask for?”

 

[Iti oj]

A payer is in three parts:
Praise, Petition, and thanks.
God says (Petition part) : “you pray and you pray, and your prayer is not answered. It is because you are asking for the wrong thing.” This leaves a question each must ask, ”What is the right thing to ask for?”

Perhaps we should be praying to know that.

 

[Domenic]

Perhaps we should be praying to know that.

God created man to serve him. What should a servant ask for? "Please God, give me a new car," or, "Please father, give me what I need to serve you."

God will take care of all our other needs.

 

[chinu]

Very valid and interesting point. I think its a good argument against organied religion and current understanding of God. That being said I see lots of counter arguments like I do this because it is my heart I study and show this devotion because I feel it.

The people who use old movie dialogs, also says it is my heart I study and show this devotion because I feel it

But what about expression?

Actually, i didn't understood what are you asking, can you give me some brief ?

 

[Ibraahiym]

According To Matthew 26 ; 39 Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus ( Pray ) The Way Moses In Numbers 20 ; 6 He Fell On His Face .

Matthew 26 ; 39 And He Went A Little Further , And Fell On His Face , And Prayed . Says , O Father , If It Be Possible , Let This Cup Pass From Me Nevertheless , Not As I Will , But As Thou Wilt .

Number 20 ; 6 , And Moses And Aaron Went From The Presence Of The Assembly Unto The Door Of The Tabernacle Of The Congreation , And They Feel Upon Their Faces And The Glory Of The Sustainer Appeared Unto Them .

This Was The Law That Was Given To Him From The Heavenly Father . This Is The Same Law That Abraham Followed . Like Abraham Did Before Moses .

Genesis 17 ; 3 , And Abraham Fell On His Face . ...

Ezra Prayed With His Face To The Ground .

Nehemiah 8 ; 6 , And Ezra Blessed The Lord , The Great God , And All The People Answered , Amen , Amen , With Lifting Up Their Hands ; And They Bowed Their Head , And Worshipped The Lord With Their Faces To The Ground .

The Way Elijah ... 1Kings 18 ; 42 , So Ahab Went Up To Eat And To Drink , And Elijah Went Up To The Top Of Carmel ; And He Cast Himself Down Upon The Earth ,And Put His Face Between His Kness .

The Way Joshua Did ...Joshua 5 ; 14 , And He Said , Nay ; But As Captain Of The Host Of The Lord Am I Now Come . And Joshua Fell On His Face To The Earth , And Did Worship , And Said Unto Him . What Saith My Lord Unto He Servant ?

 

[jtartar]

This seems like a simple enough question. Please give expanation of what we should pray for. Don't just quote the Lords prayer from Matthew 6:9-13 or Luke 11:2-4. I could have done that myself.

roger1440,
Notice please that Jesus started his teaching about prayer, the same. That was to p0ray for the praising of God's name. That name of God is Jehovah!!! That is the most sacred name in the Universe, or existence. In the Hebrew Scriptures, anyone who Blasphemed The Name was to be put to death, Lev 24:16,23.
Many people do not think it is important to use God's personal name, but think, there are many gods today. Do you want your prayers go to Satan, or Allah, or one of the millions of Hindue gods??? People who love God and want a close relationship with Him use His name regularly. After all God had written in HIS OWN BOOK, His name over 7,000 times. Would you not think that He wants His name used???
The Bible tells us that anything we pray for, that is according to His will, He will hear, 1John 5:14. The Bible also tells us to pray incessantly, 1Thes 5:17. This must mean that we can pray about anything that is of interest to us, Rom 12:12. Jesus said that anything you ask in his name he will do, John 14:14 Remember that God has given His son all power and authority over this earth and the heavens around it, Matt 28:18. Jehovah is Omniscient and Omnipotent, so if everyone in existence were praying to Him at the same time, it would pose no problem to The Almighty.

 

[Thief]

Mankinds own thoughts suggest to do good/evil, no God or Devil needed.

A misdirection....we are not at focus the source of intent.....good/evil.

How should we pray? (reference to the Lord's Prayer excluded)

Directly to the 'intended' Spirit.
As if having a one sided conversation.
As if putting a request in a suggestion box.
As if a cry for help.
As if a confusion is at hand and clarity sought.

What's so hard about that?

 

[Nietzche]

I'll preface this by saying that I am not an Athiest and I am not bashing on anyones religion. In most religions you assume that your god is all-powerful, all-wise, and overall fair and just. Now a lot of the time when you pray you are asking God to (for example) save a loved one who is dying of cancer. First of all by asking God to change something that He has already done and by doing so you are insinuating that he has done something wrong that needs to be changed . Ephesians 4:6-One God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. So by praying for something you are saying god made a mistake and you are telling him to change it. Therefore by praying to god to change something you are commiting a blaspheme. No matter how just the cause you are stilll saying god has made a mistake that you have noticed and you are willling to tell the all-wise being what he should do. Prayers such as The Lords Prayer are fine because they are simply asking god for the will and faith to govern their own life properly and by His rules

 

[Thief]

I'll preface this by saying that I am not an Athiest and I am not bashing on anyones religion. In most religions you assume that your god is all-powerful, all-wise, and overall fair and just. Now a lot of the time when you pray you are asking God to (for example) save a loved one who is dying of cancer. First of all by asking God to change something that He has already done and by doing so you are insinuating that he has done something wrong that needs to be changed . Ephesians 4:6-One God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. So by praying for something you are saying god made a mistake and you are telling him to change it. Therefore by praying to god to change something you are commiting a blaspheme. No matter how just the cause you are stilll saying god has made a mistake that you have noticed and you are willling to tell the all-wise being what he should do. Prayers such as The Lords Prayer are fine because they are simply asking god for the will and faith to govern their own life properly and by His rules

This would run in several directions all at once.

It is written....ask what you will and it shall be done according to your faith.

Again it is written....go to your closet and close the door and the spirit that knows you in secret will hear you.

And the Lord's Prayer is a bit more complex than it appears.

I believe that what you need and want can be made to happen.
But the asking seems a bit more than simply.....asking.

Did you notice the application made by the roman soldier for his servant?
Not as simple as it appears.