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How the Poor and Working Class Can Finally Break the Democratic Party.

LeftyLen

Active Member
Do you really think Fortress America is realistic? Would you follow the lead of N. Korea?
I am a constitutional fundamentalist. That takes me away from the democratic party and probably the Republicans as well. Fortress? well there should be world trade, with some tariffs, and far far less foreign intervention.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
statism is yes parasitic, as government grows freedoms decrease as more rely on government. the principles of limited government are what protects liberty.
Would you rather have a democratic government, ie, to rule yourselves; or be left to corporate and criminal exploitation?
 

LeftyLen

Active Member
Do you really think Fortress America is realistic? Would you follow the lead of N. Korea?
It was a Republican, Eisenhower who warned of the industrial military complex, such influence has led to superfluous military conflicts.
 

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
I am a constitutional fundamentalist. That takes me away from the democratic party and probably the Republicans as well. Fortress? well there should be world trade, with some tariffs, and far far less foreign intervention.
The Constitution says Treaties are the highest law of the land.

From Article VI:

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
 

LeftyLen

Active Member
Would you rather have a democratic government, ie, to rule yourselves; or be left to corporate and criminal exploitation?
'the business of America is business' government is never 'good' Government is evil, but a needed evil, thus it should be limited. free enterprise is what has uplifted millions, not government. Corporations are a-moral, not moral or immoral. There are 'reasonable' restrictions of corporate exploitation as its called, but the left is in reality anti free enterprise.
 

LeftyLen

Active Member
Would you rather have a democratic government, ie, to rule yourselves; or be left to corporate and criminal exploitation?
attributes of the left, and its destruction of America, (Dennis Prager)
No. 1: Art.

The Left long ago conquered the art world. Consequently, since the 20th century, most modern art has been ugly, meaningless and nihilistic — the opposite of what Western art had always been.

No. 2: Music.

What the Left did to the eyes in art, it did to the ears in music. , most contemporary classical music is also ugly, meaningless and uninspiring. The people who like such music are almost all music critics and, of course, music professors. Most lovers of classical music never listen to the stuff.

No. 3: Journalism.

Journalists were once highly respected. Unless a piece was listed as “opinion,” people generally believed they were getting, to the best of a journalist’s ability, as truthful a report as possible — “just the facts.” Today, on virtually any controversial issue, they are getting opinion, not truth. The purpose of nearly every major newspaper and other “news” outlet is the same purpose Pravda had in the Soviet Union: to transmit the party line.

No. 4: Colleges and universities.

The Left has destroyed universities as places of learning devoted to seeking truth and therefore welcoming, even cultivating, diverse opinions. Virtually every left-wing idea was born at a university.

No. 5: High schools and elementary schools.

Most schools in America — private as much as public — teach children that America is systemically racist and that they are not born male or female, but at a later age will choose whether to be one or the other — or neither. And increasingly, American educational institutions deny objective truth exists, even in mathematics.

No. 6: Happiness.

You can meet happy and unhappy liberals and happy and unhappy conservatives, but you are unlikely to ever meet a happy leftist. The only question is whether the unhappy gravitate to leftism or whether leftism makes people unhappy. Both are probably true.

No. 7: The family.

People on the Left increasingly choose not to get married and not to have children — in other words, not to make families. And their welfare policies serve to disincentivize the creation of families.

No. 8: Women.

The rates of depression among young people, especially young women, are higher than ever recorded in American history. One reason is that for half a century, women have been told, as one famous feminist saw put it, “A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle.” But the fact is that the vast majority of (heterosexual) women need a man to be fulfilled, just as the vast majority of (heterosexual) men need a woman to be fulfilled.

No. 9: Childhood.

One reason young people on the Left don’t want children is that the Left doesn’t particularly like children. The teachers unions’ adamant refusal to open schools for over a year has opened many Americans’ eyes to this fact. So has the war on children’s innocence – like prematurely talking to them about sex and having schools introduce them to drag queens from the age of five.

No. 10: Black life.

Like the Democratic Party historically, the left is racist. And it is so in precisely the way the word was always used — the Left believes in black inferiority. That is why leftists advocate lowering standards for blacks. That is why they advocate policies that always result in more blacks dying at the hands of other blacks. That is why they believe the state must take care of blacks more than any other group. That is why left-wing policies, from the Great Society to today, have destroyed so much of black life, especially its family life — and they don’t care.

No. 11: Black-white relations.

According to polls and according to just about every American who remembers life from about a decade ago, black-white relations were far superior then and both groups were optimistic about relations continuing to improve. The Left shattered that with its anti-white, “America is systemically racist” propaganda shouted from almost every major media and relentlessly pushed in almost every school and big business. The Left knows that when blacks and whites feel good about one another, the Left loses its appeal and loses elections.

No. 12: The military.

As the military gets more and more woke– recall the testimony of the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff testifying before Congress about the need to teach the military about white racism — soldier morale declines. Add to this the utterly gratuitous and cruel mandate that every member of the military get vaccinated or be discharged and you understand why military morale is in steep decline.

No. 13: Late-night television.

Americans who remember the titans of late-night comedy — Johnny Carson and Jay Leno — remember how their sole aim was to bring some smiles and laughter to Americans before they went to sleep. Few people had any inkling of the political views of either host. That is now history. The Left has destroyed late-night comedy. It now consists of little more than angry rants against conservatives.

No. 14: Superman.

Superman was an iconic American hero. Thanks to the Left, he is no more. About a decade ago, Superman stood in front of the United Nations to announce he was renouncing his American citizenship to become a “citizen of the world.” And the Left has now changed his motto from “Truth, Justice, and the American way” to “Truth, Justice, and a Better Tomorrow.”

No. 15: Free speech.

Never before has freedom of speech been threatened as it is today. As has been true since the communist revolution in Russia, everywhere the Left has gained power — from Russia in 1917 to the university and social media today — it has suppressed free speech. There is no exception.

No. 16: Sports.

Until last year, sports was a great American unifier. It was one place Americans could go and, leaving politics behind, Left and Right, Democrat and Republican could root for the same team. No longer. The Left has ruined it by radically politicizing baseball, football and basketball.

The great American tragedy is just about every liberal knows the above is true, but nearly everyone will still vote for the Left.
 

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
attributes of the left, and its destruction of America, (Dennis Prager)
No. 1: Art.

The Left long ago conquered the art world. Consequently, since the 20th century, most modern art has been ugly, meaningless and nihilistic — the opposite of what Western art had always been.

No. 2: Music.

What the Left did to the eyes in art, it did to the ears in music. , most contemporary classical music is also ugly, meaningless and uninspiring. The people who like such music are almost all music critics and, of course, music professors. Most lovers of classical music never listen to the stuff.

No. 3: Journalism.

Journalists were once highly respected. Unless a piece was listed as “opinion,” people generally believed they were getting, to the best of a journalist’s ability, as truthful a report as possible — “just the facts.” Today, on virtually any controversial issue, they are getting opinion, not truth. The purpose of nearly every major newspaper and other “news” outlet is the same purpose Pravda had in the Soviet Union: to transmit the party line.

No. 4: Colleges and universities.

The Left has destroyed universities as places of learning devoted to seeking truth and therefore welcoming, even cultivating, diverse opinions. Virtually every left-wing idea was born at a university.

No. 5: High schools and elementary schools.

Most schools in America — private as much as public — teach children that America is systemically racist and that they are not born male or female, but at a later age will choose whether to be one or the other — or neither. And increasingly, American educational institutions deny objective truth exists, even in mathematics.

No. 6: Happiness.

You can meet happy and unhappy liberals and happy and unhappy conservatives, but you are unlikely to ever meet a happy leftist. The only question is whether the unhappy gravitate to leftism or whether leftism makes people unhappy. Both are probably true.

No. 7: The family.

People on the Left increasingly choose not to get married and not to have children — in other words, not to make families. And their welfare policies serve to disincentivize the creation of families.

No. 8: Women.

The rates of depression among young people, especially young women, are higher than ever recorded in American history. One reason is that for half a century, women have been told, as one famous feminist saw put it, “A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle.” But the fact is that the vast majority of (heterosexual) women need a man to be fulfilled, just as the vast majority of (heterosexual) men need a woman to be fulfilled.

No. 9: Childhood.

One reason young people on the Left don’t want children is that the Left doesn’t particularly like children. The teachers unions’ adamant refusal to open schools for over a year has opened many Americans’ eyes to this fact. So has the war on children’s innocence – like prematurely talking to them about sex and having schools introduce them to drag queens from the age of five.

No. 10: Black life.

Like the Democratic Party historically, the left is racist. And it is so in precisely the way the word was always used — the Left believes in black inferiority. That is why leftists advocate lowering standards for blacks. That is why they advocate policies that always result in more blacks dying at the hands of other blacks. That is why they believe the state must take care of blacks more than any other group. That is why left-wing policies, from the Great Society to today, have destroyed so much of black life, especially its family life — and they don’t care.

No. 11: Black-white relations.

According to polls and according to just about every American who remembers life from about a decade ago, black-white relations were far superior then and both groups were optimistic about relations continuing to improve. The Left shattered that with its anti-white, “America is systemically racist” propaganda shouted from almost every major media and relentlessly pushed in almost every school and big business. The Left knows that when blacks and whites feel good about one another, the Left loses its appeal and loses elections.

No. 12: The military.

As the military gets more and more woke– recall the testimony of the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff testifying before Congress about the need to teach the military about white racism — soldier morale declines. Add to this the utterly gratuitous and cruel mandate that every member of the military get vaccinated or be discharged and you understand why military morale is in steep decline.

No. 13: Late-night television.

Americans who remember the titans of late-night comedy — Johnny Carson and Jay Leno — remember how their sole aim was to bring some smiles and laughter to Americans before they went to sleep. Few people had any inkling of the political views of either host. That is now history. The Left has destroyed late-night comedy. It now consists of little more than angry rants against conservatives.

No. 14: Superman.

Superman was an iconic American hero. Thanks to the Left, he is no more. About a decade ago, Superman stood in front of the United Nations to announce he was renouncing his American citizenship to become a “citizen of the world.” And the Left has now changed his motto from “Truth, Justice, and the American way” to “Truth, Justice, and a Better Tomorrow.”

No. 15: Free speech.

Never before has freedom of speech been threatened as it is today. As has been true since the communist revolution in Russia, everywhere the Left has gained power — from Russia in 1917 to the university and social media today — it has suppressed free speech. There is no exception.

No. 16: Sports.

Until last year, sports was a great American unifier. It was one place Americans could go and, leaving politics behind, Left and Right, Democrat and Republican could root for the same team. No longer. The Left has ruined it by radically politicizing baseball, football and basketball.

The great American tragedy is just about every liberal knows the above is true, but nearly everyone will still vote for the Left.
Not one source given for ANY of these talking points. Many of these are matters of (Prager's) jaundiced opinion.
 

LeftyLen

Active Member
jaundiced? the fact is leftism destroys everything it touch's, historically its killed oppressed millions, yet still survives
jaundiced? the fact is leftism destroys everything it touch's, historically its killed oppressed millions, yet still survives
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
What does that have to do with how much Europe spends on their militaries? You're getting off track. You said you want Europe to spend more on "defense". It had nothing to do with America finding ways to make their own military endeavors cheaper.
But it could. That's my point. And frankly, it's never been tried.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
What does that have to do with how much Europe spends on their militaries? You're getting off track. You said you want Europe to spend more on "defense". It had nothing to do with America finding ways to make their own military endeavors cheaper.
But it could. That's my point. And frankly, it's never been tried.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
attributes of the left, and its destruction of America, (Dennis Prager)
No. 1: Art.

The Left long ago conquered the art world. Consequently, since the 20th century, most modern art has been ugly, meaningless and nihilistic — the opposite of what Western art had always been.

No. 2: Music.

What the Left did to the eyes in art, it did to the ears in music. , most contemporary classical music is also ugly, meaningless and uninspiring. The people who like such music are almost all music critics and, of course, music professors. Most lovers of classical music never listen to the stuff.

No. 3: Journalism.

Journalists were once highly respected. Unless a piece was listed as “opinion,” people generally believed they were getting, to the best of a journalist’s ability, as truthful a report as possible — “just the facts.” Today, on virtually any controversial issue, they are getting opinion, not truth. The purpose of nearly every major newspaper and other “news” outlet is the same purpose Pravda had in the Soviet Union: to transmit the party line.

No. 4: Colleges and universities.

The Left has destroyed universities as places of learning devoted to seeking truth and therefore welcoming, even cultivating, diverse opinions. Virtually every left-wing idea was born at a university.

No. 5: High schools and elementary schools.

Most schools in America — private as much as public — teach children that America is systemically racist and that they are not born male or female, but at a later age will choose whether to be one or the other — or neither. And increasingly, American educational institutions deny objective truth exists, even in mathematics.

No. 6: Happiness.

You can meet happy and unhappy liberals and happy and unhappy conservatives, but you are unlikely to ever meet a happy leftist. The only question is whether the unhappy gravitate to leftism or whether leftism makes people unhappy. Both are probably true.

No. 7: The family.

People on the Left increasingly choose not to get married and not to have children — in other words, not to make families. And their welfare policies serve to disincentivize the creation of families.

No. 8: Women.

The rates of depression among young people, especially young women, are higher than ever recorded in American history. One reason is that for half a century, women have been told, as one famous feminist saw put it, “A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle.” But the fact is that the vast majority of (heterosexual) women need a man to be fulfilled, just as the vast majority of (heterosexual) men need a woman to be fulfilled.

No. 9: Childhood.

One reason young people on the Left don’t want children is that the Left doesn’t particularly like children. The teachers unions’ adamant refusal to open schools for over a year has opened many Americans’ eyes to this fact. So has the war on children’s innocence – like prematurely talking to them about sex and having schools introduce them to drag queens from the age of five.

No. 10: Black life.

Like the Democratic Party historically, the left is racist. And it is so in precisely the way the word was always used — the Left believes in black inferiority. That is why leftists advocate lowering standards for blacks. That is why they advocate policies that always result in more blacks dying at the hands of other blacks. That is why they believe the state must take care of blacks more than any other group. That is why left-wing policies, from the Great Society to today, have destroyed so much of black life, especially its family life — and they don’t care.

No. 11: Black-white relations.

According to polls and according to just about every American who remembers life from about a decade ago, black-white relations were far superior then and both groups were optimistic about relations continuing to improve. The Left shattered that with its anti-white, “America is systemically racist” propaganda shouted from almost every major media and relentlessly pushed in almost every school and big business. The Left knows that when blacks and whites feel good about one another, the Left loses its appeal and loses elections.

No. 12: The military.

As the military gets more and more woke– recall the testimony of the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff testifying before Congress about the need to teach the military about white racism — soldier morale declines. Add to this the utterly gratuitous and cruel mandate that every member of the military get vaccinated or be discharged and you understand why military morale is in steep decline.

No. 13: Late-night television.

Americans who remember the titans of late-night comedy — Johnny Carson and Jay Leno — remember how their sole aim was to bring some smiles and laughter to Americans before they went to sleep. Few people had any inkling of the political views of either host. That is now history. The Left has destroyed late-night comedy. It now consists of little more than angry rants against conservatives.

No. 14: Superman.

Superman was an iconic American hero. Thanks to the Left, he is no more. About a decade ago, Superman stood in front of the United Nations to announce he was renouncing his American citizenship to become a “citizen of the world.” And the Left has now changed his motto from “Truth, Justice, and the American way” to “Truth, Justice, and a Better Tomorrow.”

No. 15: Free speech.

Never before has freedom of speech been threatened as it is today. As has been true since the communist revolution in Russia, everywhere the Left has gained power — from Russia in 1917 to the university and social media today — it has suppressed free speech. There is no exception.

No. 16: Sports.

Until last year, sports was a great American unifier. It was one place Americans could go and, leaving politics behind, Left and Right, Democrat and Republican could root for the same team. No longer. The Left has ruined it by radically politicizing baseball, football and basketball.

The great American tragedy is just about every liberal knows the above is true, but nearly everyone will still vote for the Left.
LOL not me, not me!
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
I do not are about the rest of the world, American was founded to be separate from European dogmas, ideologies, America is founded as a an anomaly. Republican is the lessor of two evils, the problem is lessor evil is still evil. All statism is parasitic
If you want to be ignorant about what's going on the rest of the world, so be it.
I choose not to do so.
I was just pointing out that what some Americans consider "left" is no where near it, in comparison to much of the rest of the world.

Trump is most definitely not the lessor of two evils, imo. I could never bring myself to support a civilly liable sexual abuser, a convicted felon (34 counts) and lifelong fraud as the leader of my country.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
But it could. That's my point. And frankly, it's never been tried.
It could what? You're talking about the U.S. taking measures to save money on their bases and troops in Europe. Not removing those things. The bases and troops would stay, so Europe spending more on their militaries has nothing to do with this. I'm not concerned right now with the U.S. finding ways to save money. I'm concerned with your claim about Europe's spending.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
attributes of the left, and its destruction of America, (Dennis Prager)
No. 1: Art.

The Left long ago conquered the art world. Consequently, since the 20th century, most modern art has been ugly, meaningless and nihilistic — the opposite of what Western art had always been.
Wow, a personal declaration about how he doesn't personally like art. Who cares?
No. 2: Music.

What the Left did to the eyes in art, it did to the ears in music. , most contemporary classical music is also ugly, meaningless and uninspiring. The people who like such music are almost all music critics and, of course, music professors. Most lovers of classical music never listen to the stuff.
LOL Who cares about Prager's personal views on music? Not me.
No. 3: Journalism.

Journalists were once highly respected. Unless a piece was listed as “opinion,” people generally believed they were getting, to the best of a journalist’s ability, as truthful a report as possible — “just the facts.” Today, on virtually any controversial issue, they are getting opinion, not truth. The purpose of nearly every major newspaper and other “news” outlet is the same purpose Pravda had in the Soviet Union: to transmit the party line.
Says the guy who supports Fox News. Gimme a break, Prager.
Ever read the propaganda that comes out of Prager U?
No. 4: Colleges and universities.

The Left has destroyed universities as places of learning devoted to seeking truth and therefore welcoming, even cultivating, diverse opinions. Virtually every left-wing idea was born at a university.
LOL These dudes have been trying to push this narrative for decades. Sounds like they've never actually set foot in a university or college.

Colleges and universities are places of indoctrination!" Says the guy who created Prager U to indoctrinate people into his personal religious ideology.
No. 5: High schools and elementary schools.

Most schools in America — private as much as public — teach children that America is systemically racist and that they are not born male or female, but at a later age will choose whether to be one or the other — or neither. And increasingly, American educational institutions deny objective truth exists, even in mathematics.
Reactionary nonsense.
No. 6: Happiness.

You can meet happy and unhappy liberals and happy and unhappy conservatives, but you are unlikely to ever meet a happy leftist. The only question is whether the unhappy gravitate to leftism or whether leftism makes people unhappy. Both are probably true.
What a load. Why are most of the happiest countries in the world the more left-leaning ones?

Do people really buy this?
No. 7: The family.

People on the Left increasingly choose not to get married and not to have children — in other words, not to make families. And their welfare policies serve to disincentivize the creation of families.
Oh noes! LOL

The world doesn't fit into Prager's neat little box of judgment and personal definitions.
Who is this guy to tell people that their family isn't a family? What a jerk.

Beating up on welfare families too? How classy.
No. 8: Women.

The rates of depression among young people, especially young women, are higher than ever recorded in American history. One reason is that for half a century, women have been told, as one famous feminist saw put it, “A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle.” But the fact is that the vast majority of (heterosexual) women need a man to be fulfilled, just as the vast majority of (heterosexual) men need a woman to be fulfilled.
This is starting to creep me out.

Why are these old dudes so obsessed with other peoples' life decisions? And who the hell is he to tell somebody that the only way to reach any fulfillment in life is to have a partner of the opposite sex? Bite me dude.
No. 9: Childhood.

One reason young people on the Left don’t want children is that the Left doesn’t particularly like children. The teachers unions’ adamant refusal to open schools for over a year has opened many Americans’ eyes to this fact. So has the war on children’s innocence – like prematurely talking to them about sex and having schools introduce them to drag queens from the age of five.
LOL I love children. Can't have them. Thanks for the judgment though. It's not bad enough that I've judged myself for it, I've got some judgy septuagenarian telling me I'm no good on top of that. Awesome.

What a maroon. He and J.D. Vance should shack up and embarrass themselves together as a team.

We started learning about our bodies in the fifth grade, as we should have since puberty was right around the corner. That was over 40 years ago. This guy's out to lunch.
No. 10: Black life.

Like the Democratic Party historically, the left is racist. And it is so in precisely the way the word was always used — the Left believes in black inferiority. That is why leftists advocate lowering standards for blacks. That is why they advocate policies that always result in more blacks dying at the hands of other blacks. That is why they believe the state must take care of blacks more than any other group. That is why left-wing policies, from the Great Society to today, have destroyed so much of black life, especially its family life — and they don’t care.
Oh cool now he goes all racist. That's what this silly list was missing so far!
No. 11: Black-white relations.

According to polls and according to just about every American who remembers life from about a decade ago, black-white relations were far superior then and both groups were optimistic about relations continuing to improve. The Left shattered that with its anti-white, “America is systemically racist” propaganda shouted from almost every major media and relentlessly pushed in almost every school and big business. The Left knows that when blacks and whites feel good about one another, the Left loses its appeal and loses elections.
"America's not systemically racist, just all the Democrats are all racists!"
:rolleyes:

How can a country set up with institutional racist built into it, NOT end up being systemically racist? That's the question.
No. 12: The military.

As the military gets more and more woke– recall the testimony of the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff testifying before Congress about the need to teach the military about white racism — soldier morale declines. Add to this the utterly gratuitous and cruel mandate that every member of the military get vaccinated or be discharged and you understand why military morale is in steep decline.
LOL The military is not getting more "woke." What a load.

And what does being vaccinated have to do with "wokeness," exactly? Oh, nothing.
No. 13: Late-night television.

Americans who remember the titans of late-night comedy — Johnny Carson and Jay Leno — remember how their sole aim was to bring some smiles and laughter to Americans before they went to sleep. Few people had any inkling of the political views of either host. That is now history. The Left has destroyed late-night comedy. It now consists of little more than angry rants against conservatives.
LOL Late night hosts have always made fun of Presidents.
No. 14: Superman.

Superman was an iconic American hero. Thanks to the Left, he is no more. About a decade ago, Superman stood in front of the United Nations to announce he was renouncing his American citizenship to become a “citizen of the world.” And the Left has now changed his motto from “Truth, Justice, and the American way” to “Truth, Justice, and a Better Tomorrow.”
Oh boy.
No. 15: Free speech.

Never before has freedom of speech been threatened as it is today. As has been true since the communist revolution in Russia, everywhere the Left has gained power — from Russia in 1917 to the university and social media today — it has suppressed free speech. There is no exception.
Freedom of speech is alive and well on social media. I mean, here we are.
No. 16: Sports.

Until last year, sports was a great American unifier. It was one place Americans could go and, leaving politics behind, Left and Right, Democrat and Republican could root for the same team. No longer. The Left has ruined it by radically politicizing baseball, football and basketball.
How has the left "radicalized" and "politicized" baseball, football and basketball? Funny, he doesn't bother to say.
The great American tragedy is just about every liberal knows the above is true, but nearly everyone will still vote for the Left.
LOL Dennis Prager is a reactionary, bloviating fool who wants to force his religious views onto everyone else.

Your name is "LeftyLen" and you support this guy? Why??
 

LeftyLen

Active Member
Wow, a personal declaration about how he doesn't personally like art. Who cares?

LOL Who cares about Prager's personal views on music? Not me.

Says the guy who supports Fox News. Gimme a break, Prager.
Ever read the propaganda that comes out of Prager U?

LOL These dudes have been trying to push this narrative for decades. Sounds like they've never actually set foot in a university or college.

Colleges and universities are places of indoctrination!" Says the guy who created Prager U to indoctrinate people into his personal religious ideology.

Reactionary nonsense.

What a load. Why are most of the happiest countries in the world the more left-leaning ones?

Do people really buy this?

Oh noes! LOL

The world doesn't fit into Prager's neat little box of judgment and personal definitions.
Who is this guy to tell people that their family isn't a family? What a jerk.

Beating up on welfare families too? How classy.

This is starting to creep me out.

Why are these old dudes so obsessed with other peoples' life decisions? And who the hell is he to tell somebody that the only way to reach any fulfillment in life is to have a partner of the opposite sex? Bite me dude.

LOL I love children. Can't have them. Thanks for the judgment though. It's not bad enough that I've judged myself for it, I've got some judgy septuagenarian telling me I'm no good on top of that. Awesome.

What a maroon. He and J.D. Vance should shack up and embarrass themselves together as a team.

We started learning about our bodies in the fifth grade, as we should have since puberty was right around the corner. That was over 40 years ago. This guy's out to lunch.

Oh cool now he goes all racist. That's what this silly list was missing so far!

"America's not systemically racist, just all the Democrats are all racists!"
:rolleyes:

How can a country set up with institutional racist built into it, NOT end up being systemically racist? That's the question.

LOL The military is not getting more "woke." What a load.

And what does being vaccinated have to do with "wokeness," exactly? Oh, nothing.

LOL Late night hosts have always made fun of Presidents.

Oh boy.

Freedom of speech is alive and well on social media. I mean, here we are.

How has the left "radicalized" and "politicized" baseball, football and basketball? Funny, he doesn't bother to say.

LOL Dennis Prager is a reactionary, bloviating fool who wants to force his religious views onto everyone else.

Your name is "LeftyLen" and you support this guy? Why??
how did you know my nick was leftylen? (left handed) And Prager is not a Christian.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
This list has absolutely nothing to do with the previous Prager list given.

It's just another Gish Gallop. This makes two.
 

LeftyLen

Active Member
If you want to be ignorant about what's going on the rest of the world, so be it.
I choose not to do so.
I was just pointing out that what some Americans consider "left" is no where near it, in comparison to much of the rest of the world.

Trump is most definitely not the lessor of two evils, imo. I could never bring myself to support a civilly liable sexual abuser, a convicted felon (34 counts) and lifelong fraud as the leader of my country.
it is commen in third world countries to go after and imprison opposing candidates, and that is just what the weaponized judiciary system did. Yess Trump having sex with a 14 year old and getting her pregnant was disgusting, of wait that was Thomas Jefferson
 

Valjean

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1. The Libertarian Party suffers most from one problem, relevance. 2. fear-mongering? All statism is parasitic, its the natural tendency of governments that establish liberty to then enact more and more laws, regulations to take away those Libertys.
To take away liberty, or protect citizens from fraud, theft, and the dangers of pollution, hazardous conditions, &c?
the right fears government, the left fears corporations.
The Right fears disorder and dissent, and would suppress them with draconian social controls.
Corporations want profits and an inexpensive, compliant workforce. They would stifle freedom just as effectively as an autocrat by making compliance necessary for survival.

Larger and larger 'government ' to protect people from various enemies, real and unreal. Real liberal was about a 'safety net' for the working class. Todays Democrats are woke leftists keeping alive the Marxist paradigm forever of victim-oppressor.
The "government," in a democracy, is supposed to be us. It's supposed to be a social service collective.
I don't see where you're coming up with all this Marxist stuff.
Cant afford a roof over their head/ yes, due to mass uncontrolled spending by the democrats.
The Republicans spend more than the Democrats, if you check the actual records. They just blame it on the Democrats.

Existing housing is being bought up by corporate investment firms. New, low-cost housing is not being built -- there's little profit in it. There's high demand and low supply. The investment firms can charge exorbitant rents, and they set the regional rental prices.
This is all fine with Republicans. It's private. It's free trade. It's Reaganomic Neoliberalism.

Republican Neoliberals don't like to spend money on things that don't turn a profit -- like housing, education, social programs or infrastructure.
Democrats believe these expenses are necessary
It is the free enterprise system that has uplifted millions out of poverty, not endless parasitic government programs. You cannot spend your way out of recession. look at the mass exodus from California and other blue states, i am one of them.
The privatized free enterprise system has driven millions into poverty, and is decimating the middle class, while enriching only a few.
There were no homeless encampments or beggars on the streets when I was growing up, housing and education were affordable. I got two college degrees with a part time job as a short order cook.

You can spend your way out of poverty. Remember Roosevelt's New Deal?
 
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