How to build 10 g of lean muscle per hour

[Twilight Hue]

Obviously RF is a haven for trolling dickheads whose main interest appears to be exercising their delusions of being intelligent thinkers. So I won't waste any more of my time here.

Suppose it's just as well. Your cander sounds a bit akin with roid rage to me.

Anyways

Only thing I ever used in the past was Androstenediol It worked great.

I lost a lot of weight and had a well toned and defined musculature at the time. After a couple of years the Fed's banned it's use citing heart attacks were connected to it's use. Its now illegal to purchase.



My sister was employed as a personal trainer at Golds Gym for many years and now is a recreational director. Maybe I'll pass this along and see what her opinion is on the stuff and see if it's any good or even legal.

You really can't diss folks for being skeptics about stuff like this. If it was that good, you would think it would be widespread in it's use already.

This sounds like something you would hear plugged at 2 am on the radio or television.

 

[Papoon]

Suppose it's just as well. Your cander sounds a bit akin with roid rage to me.

Anyways

Only thing I ever used in the past was Androstenediol It worked great.

I lost a lot of weight and had a well toned and defined musculature at the time. After a couple of years the Fed's banned it's use citing heart attacks were connected to it's use. Its now illegal to purchase.



My sister was employed as a personal trainer at Golds Gym for many years and now is a recreational director. Maybe I'll pass this along and see what her opinion is on the stuff and see if it's any good or even legal.

You really can't diss folks for being skeptics about stuff like this. If it was that good, you would think it would be widespread in it's use already.

This sounds like something you would hear plugged at 2 am on the radio or television.

Well, thanks for the first sensible reply. No roid rage at all, it just pissed me off that two replies implied I was here to sell something and one listed all the the dangers of anabolic steroids, which are a completely different thing. Also, my response asking for links to any data about such negative side effects got zero response, not even an acknowledgement of error. So forgive me if my tone was a little strained.
Most fitness information is about weight loss. There is not much out there for folk who want and need to add muscle mass. Typically people lose around 10% of their muscle mass in their 60s. And also lose bone density. This sets them up for a negative spiral of incapacity and injury.
Once the quads go, people become even more sedentary. Then the chest begins to collapse, and all the extra sitting (on top of all the excessive sitting typical anyway) causes the hamstrings to shorten....and the whole body becomes less and less fit and flexible.
This is not only a tragic loss of potential for the individual, but this pattern costs society a fortune.
Also, there are cases like myself where illness can cause significant loss of muscle mass. At my age that is a very unfortunate outcome. And many don't have the time and money to spend at gyms rebuilding - and rebuilding slowly because older folk do not secrete growth hormone. We each get around a teaspoon of GH in our lifetime, and little or none after about 30 years of age.
MK-677 has been shown to significantly raise IGF and GH in older people, facilitating repair of injuries.
So all in all, I think SARMs are a major development with huge value to lots of people.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Sure. I'll post later today. I notice you haven't made the same request of the impertinent rude detractors who have made outrageous negative claims with no links. Surprise surprise.

It's better to assume we are doing something else, and that we are educated enough to not have to look stuff up and can post based on what knowledge we have, and certainly it is not good to assume we are "impertinent rude detractors"

Shadow Wolf - all those terrible side effects you mention are relevant to the old school anabolic steroids, but not SARMs.

http://www.sarms.com/side-effects.php

When you have used it for a long time, you will be affected by gynecomastia, the development of male breasts.

http://www.evolutionary.org/andarine-s4-side-effects-vision

The biggest concern and most commonly known side effect of andarine use is the vision effects. In short, the S4 molecule will bind to the receptor in the eye, which will cause a yellow tint to be seen in short amounts of time.

https://content.tigerfitness.com/sarms-exposed-ostarine/

GW501516/Cardarine was abandoned for clinical development in 2007 because at least three published/presented studies using animal testing models revealed it rapidly caused cancer in multiple organs (stomach, liver, tongue, skin, bladder, ovaries, womb and testes) of test animals it was administered to.
The development of Andarine (S-4) as a prescription drug was also halted because the use of this compound caused serious side effects (disturbances in vision). There are dozens and dozens of such instances being documented and discussed on the internet by people who bought Andarine/S-4 and used it if you are so inclined to Google such.

http://www.sarmsinfo.com/

Ergo, unlike anabolic steroids, SARMs generally produce fewer unwanted side effects on non-target tissues such as the prostate, hairline, sebaceous glands, and secondary sexual organs.

Emphasis mine.
https://www.ironmagresearch.com/understanding-s-a-r-m-s-part-1/

At 5 mg/day, testosterone levels remained within the “normal” range, although a statistically significant reduction was still noted. At higher dosages, clinical deficiency took place across the board.

https://blog.priceplow.com/sarms

Make no mistake – any company selling these as “supplements” is being completely deceptive. There is no possible way on earth that these are FDA / DSHEA compliant,[24] and it is seriously only a matter of time before the FDA and DEA drop a serious ban-hammer on these products and the companies importing, selling, and manufacturing them.
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Meanwhile, the fact is that nobody in the supplement industry has anything more than a surface level clue about these first/second generation SARMs. Big pharma might not know much more, and if they do, they currently have no obligation to share it with us.

Many of these are effectively failed prescription drugs whose research was aborted upon their failure. Still others have their research still in progress, but have yet to gain approval (the primary example being GTx and Ostarine).
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Even worse, one compound named GW-501516 / Cardarine was abandoned for research because it caused cancer in animal studies at all doses, at all durations of use.[35,36,37,38]

SARMS do not run as high of a risk as anabolic steroids, but there are still risks, there are still possible side-effects, they are not as safe as what many companies and websites lead people to believe (such even boldly claiming "no side effects," which is obviously a falsehood), and such things should never be carried out without doctor supervision because although nothing serious or bad is likely to happen, even with traditional HRT (as I mentioned in my previous post), it can happen and the things likely to happen start out small and are easily detected early, but without a doctor reviewing your health these things may go unnoticed until they become serious and life-threatening. And, to top it off, it is illegal to sell them as a supplement, and because they are not intended to be used as supplements, it is illegal to use them as such because they are not being used in accordance to their intended use (this is the case with all medications not being used as it's intended).

Please, can the hysteria. Show me the science. I have noticed a knee jerk reaction in many circles to anything anabolic.

It is not a knee-jerk reaction, at all, when it is well known and well established that messing with your bodies chemistry can have some very serious side effects and consequences. That is just a fact. When you tamper with your body's hormones, the effects can be profound, and in a very ugly way.
However, it is utterly and entirely irresponsible for companies to so passively and casually promote SARMs, even claiming they have no side effects. Yes, there is a considerable reduction in the side effects of anabolic steroids, and for some patients the benefits will outweigh the risks and SARMs can be of tremendous benefit. However, alterations in your body chemistry should never be taken lightly, it should not be carried out without extensively researching what you are using, and it shouldn't be done without medical supervision. You probably won't have any problems, but you probably won't need your seat belt either but it is apparent and obvious that it's a good idea to use them.

 

[Wirey]

Regarding cytotoxic herbs,
www.gumbygumby.info
This summarises the research of the Greifswald University's medical research into pittosporum phillyraeoides.
You can do your own research regarding andrographis pinniculata, an Ayurvedic herb with various medical applications, including cytotoxic (anticancer) activity.
Purslane is a herb which is also cytotoxic, particularly useful for killing liver blastoma cells and lung cancer cells. Go to researchgate.net and search portulaca oleracea.
www.ncbi.nim.nih.gov has some good info on SARMs

Greifswald (my cousin Andreas' alma mater) never heard of this crap.

http://www.uni-greifswald.de/

 

[Papoon]

Greifswald (my cousin Andreas' alma mater) never heard of this crap.

http://www.uni-greifswald.de/

So you emailed their medical research unit ?

 

[Wirey]

So you emailed their medical research unit ?

Didn't have to. They never heard of that crap. They did do a sociology study on internet cons, though. If you have a credit card number I can set you up.

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