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How to fix "sexting" laws

dust1n

Zindīq
How to fix "sexting" laws - Sexting - Salon.com

"I just recently performed an archaeological dig on my childhood closet, which has been perfectly preserved in the state it was in when I flew the nest. Amid all the empty bottles of Smirnoff Ice and aimlessly doodled-on binders, I found a stockpile of what might be referred to in court as "child pornography" -- but it was self-made with my high school boyfriend. The first thought I had when I saw the images -- black-and-white printouts from a webcam -- was how sweet the shots were, despite being mildly explicit. Here were two teenagers safely and lovingly exploring their bodies and sexualities -- and because the images were kept strictly for our eyes only, they maintained that innocence.


That's why I'm encouraged by news that late yesterday New Jersey approved a bill that would allow teenagers caught "sexting" to avoid being prosecuted as child pornographers. The bill is based on the wacky notion that teens shouldn't be labeled as sex offenders for the rest of their lives for taking dirty self-portraits, or possessing X-rated photos of their sweetheart who, in many cases, they are legally allowed to have sex with. (Although, that was not the case for me, as the age of consent in California is 18. Whoops.) This measure is a great step toward a saner adult attitude toward teen sexuality, and other states should look to it as a blueprint. But there's also room for improvement.


The bill gives teens the option of paying for an educational program as a way to avoid a damaging criminal record. Assemblyman Jon Bramnick told NBC that the measure "sends a clear signal to the Judiciary that when young people make a mistake, this Legislature is saying, 'give them a chance, give them an option other than a criminal past.'" He's absolutely right -- it is absurd for "sexting" to land a teen on the sex offender registry -- but Bramnick, and the measure itself, would be more right if they allowed that sometimes it isn't a mistake or wrong when teenagers take sexy self-snapshots, that it can be part of normal sexual development.


Now, to be clear, I don't think it's a good idea for teenagers to distribute naked photos of themselves. More often than not it's a bad idea to digitally share naked pics, even with a committed lover, and we should communicate that to teens. (We should also be educating kids, and adults, about the profound potential for embarrassment and professional consequences in digitally sharing even personal images that are not pornographic.) If we were really concerned with the well-being and personal rights of teenagers, though, we would create a legislative safe space for sexual exploration.


Clearly, the major concern is that by allowing teens to even take or possess naked self-portraits, we would be sanctioning the production of child pornography. It's true that once an image is digitalized its reach can be enormous -- whether it's on a hackable computer or spread through a chain of text messages. But we should find a way to both protect teens against exploitation and allow them a reasonable degree of sexual autonomy. Save the prosecutions and the example-making for those who disseminate pornographic images of minors other than themselves (and that would include, say, the girlfriend who texts an image of her ex-boyfriend's penis to the entire school in an act of retaliation). There certainly are no easy black-and-white answers here, especially when it comes to the blunt instrument of the law, but we should keep striving for smarter legislation -- and the New Jersey bill is a start.

As for my recent discovery in my childhood closet? I threw all the photos away, impulsively and in a moment of fear. I mean, child pornography, eek! A big part of me regrets it, though. I don't see any good reason why it should be illegal for me to possess those images. And it would have been nice to dig the photos out of a safe hiding place when I have high school kids of my own and to remember what it was like to be a lusty teenager in love."


So, what should be the exact legislation to consider all circumstances in teenage 'sexting'?
 

Levite

Higher and Higher
How to fix "sexting" laws - Sexting - Salon.com

"I just recently performed an archaeological dig on my childhood closet, which has been perfectly preserved in the state it was in when I flew the nest. Amid all the empty bottles of Smirnoff Ice and aimlessly doodled-on binders, I found a stockpile of what might be referred to in court as "child pornography" -- but it was self-made with my high school boyfriend. The first thought I had when I saw the images -- black-and-white printouts from a webcam -- was how sweet the shots were, despite being mildly explicit. Here were two teenagers safely and lovingly exploring their bodies and sexualities -- and because the images were kept strictly for our eyes only, they maintained that innocence.


That's why I'm encouraged by news that late yesterday New Jersey approved a bill that would allow teenagers caught "sexting" to avoid being prosecuted as child pornographers. The bill is based on the wacky notion that teens shouldn't be labeled as sex offenders for the rest of their lives for taking dirty self-portraits, or possessing X-rated photos of their sweetheart who, in many cases, they are legally allowed to have sex with. (Although, that was not the case for me, as the age of consent in California is 18. Whoops.) This measure is a great step toward a saner adult attitude toward teen sexuality, and other states should look to it as a blueprint. But there's also room for improvement.


The bill gives teens the option of paying for an educational program as a way to avoid a damaging criminal record. Assemblyman Jon Bramnick told NBC that the measure "sends a clear signal to the Judiciary that when young people make a mistake, this Legislature is saying, 'give them a chance, give them an option other than a criminal past.'" He's absolutely right -- it is absurd for "sexting" to land a teen on the sex offender registry -- but Bramnick, and the measure itself, would be more right if they allowed that sometimes it isn't a mistake or wrong when teenagers take sexy self-snapshots, that it can be part of normal sexual development.


Now, to be clear, I don't think it's a good idea for teenagers to distribute naked photos of themselves. More often than not it's a bad idea to digitally share naked pics, even with a committed lover, and we should communicate that to teens. (We should also be educating kids, and adults, about the profound potential for embarrassment and professional consequences in digitally sharing even personal images that are not pornographic.) If we were really concerned with the well-being and personal rights of teenagers, though, we would create a legislative safe space for sexual exploration.


Clearly, the major concern is that by allowing teens to even take or possess naked self-portraits, we would be sanctioning the production of child pornography. It's true that once an image is digitalized its reach can be enormous -- whether it's on a hackable computer or spread through a chain of text messages. But we should find a way to both protect teens against exploitation and allow them a reasonable degree of sexual autonomy. Save the prosecutions and the example-making for those who disseminate pornographic images of minors other than themselves (and that would include, say, the girlfriend who texts an image of her ex-boyfriend's penis to the entire school in an act of retaliation). There certainly are no easy black-and-white answers here, especially when it comes to the blunt instrument of the law, but we should keep striving for smarter legislation -- and the New Jersey bill is a start.

As for my recent discovery in my childhood closet? I threw all the photos away, impulsively and in a moment of fear. I mean, child pornography, eek! A big part of me regrets it, though. I don't see any good reason why it should be illegal for me to possess those images. And it would have been nice to dig the photos out of a safe hiding place when I have high school kids of my own and to remember what it was like to be a lusty teenager in love."


So, what should be the exact legislation to consider all circumstances in teenage 'sexting'?

There should be a broad "personal use" exception to the child pornography rule for teenagers who exchange explicit pictures with each other. And the exception should continue so long as the pictures remain in the possession of the original exchangers. In other words, if my (hypothetical) fifteen-year-old daughter sends her boyfriend a sexy picture, neither she nor he should be culpable of anything. Also, if both parties keep the photo for sentimental reasons, they should both remain free of culpability after turning 18. If someone else gets ahold of the picture, or if the boyfriend, without her consent, passes it to another party, or posts it online, those parties should be culpable for child pornography, and the boyfriend also should be culpable.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
There should be a broad "personal use" exception to the child pornography rule for teenagers who exchange explicit pictures with each other. And the exception should continue so long as the pictures remain in the possession of the original exchangers. In other words, if my (hypothetical) fifteen-year-old daughter sends her boyfriend a sexy picture, neither she nor he should be culpable of anything. Also, if both parties keep the photo for sentimental reasons, they should both remain free of culpability after turning 18. If someone else gets ahold of the picture, or if the boyfriend, without her consent, passes it to another party, or posts it online, those parties should be culpable for child pornography, and the boyfriend also should be culpable.

If someone else gets a hold of the picture, without either's consent, can the boyfriend still be culpable?
 

Levite

Higher and Higher
If someone else gets a hold of the picture, without either's consent, can the boyfriend still be culpable?

If the boyfriend did not knowingly and with consent distribute the picture, and reasonably presumed that it was private to himself and the girl only, then no, I would say he's not culpable. Whoever stole the photo is culpable.
 

Vendetta

"Oscar the grouch"
My question is if both teens are of the same age is there cuplability in the first place? The law should understand that adolescent sexuality is rising in middle to high school levels so intimate photos being shared is to be expected.
 

Mercy Not Sacrifice

Well-Known Member
My question is if both teens are of the same age is there cuplability in the first place? The law should understand that adolescent sexuality is rising in middle to high school levels so intimate photos being shared is to be expected.

Good call.

When a law causes more problems than the behavior it is designed to eliminate, that law must be called into question. Consensual sexuality is nothing new for youth, nor is using sexuality as a part of bullying. What *is* new is the technology that can distribute sexual images. If there needs to be a clampdown, that's where it needs to take place. Start by forbidding the sale of cell phones to minors that can text images. If that works but not well enough, forbid such a sale to any household with a minor, or if needs be, ban that feature entirely. Now this may not completely prevent backdoor methods of sending images, but they tend to be more complex, which would partially deter that from happening.

And for god's sake, stop criminalizing behavior that is just as normal as eating and breathing. What is this, the Dark Age or something?
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
There should be a broad "personal use" exception to the child pornography rule for teenagers who exchange explicit pictures with each other. And the exception should continue so long as the pictures remain in the possession of the original exchangers. In other words, if my (hypothetical) fifteen-year-old daughter sends her boyfriend a sexy picture, neither she nor he should be culpable of anything. Also, if both parties keep the photo for sentimental reasons, they should both remain free of culpability after turning 18. If someone else gets ahold of the picture, or if the boyfriend, without her consent, passes it to another party, or posts it online, those parties should be culpable for child pornography, and the boyfriend also should be culpable.
Agreed. Taking and keeping explicit pictures among minors is little different than being together in an explicit situation.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
This can easily be solved by parents by teaching their children some responsibility and respect and by disabling the feature on their children's phones to take and transmit pictures. Most of the kiddy related issues that make the news is due to them being spoiled, undisciplined little snots, i.e. ****-poor parenting.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
This can easily be solved by parents by teaching their children some responsibility and respect and by disabling the feature on their children's phones to take and transmit pictures. Most of the kiddy related issues that make the news is due to them being spoiled, undisciplined little snots, i.e. ****-poor parenting.
While I agree this would be a good remedy, I don't see it being an easy one.
 

Mercy Not Sacrifice

Well-Known Member
This can easily be solved by parents by teaching their children some responsibility and respect and by disabling the feature on their children's phones to take and transmit pictures. Most of the kiddy related issues that make the news is due to them being spoiled, undisciplined little snots, i.e. ****-poor parenting.

That's certainly plausible. Some of these could be cases of parents giving their adolescents the newest and latest phone, and then assuming that he or she will generally use it well. I.e., "Surely, my kid won't."
 

Where Is God

Creator
Isnt child pornography to a child just pornography? I totally don't think a kid should be culpable for this. I want to be able to express my love for my hypothetical girlfriend any way I want.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Isnt child pornography to a child just pornography? I totally don't think a kid should be culpable for this. I want to be able to express my love for my hypothetical girlfriend any way I want.

Can't the kiddies do that by writing crappy love poetry for one another rather than exchanging "pix" of their hoohoos and winkies?
 
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