How to increase darkness?

[dave_]

Maybe i am just confused but here are my thoughts.

I see darkness as my spiritual side and light as my animalistic or materialistic side.If i am not mistaken in some left hand path beliefs light, god, demiurge and material universe are the same.So when i feel this darkness is increasing also my spirituality is increasing and if decreasing i feel like i am trapped in material becoming more animalistic.

So how can i increase this darkness?

 

[1137]

So you're asking how to increase your spiritual side?

 

[Orias]

It depends, how does one get ahead without getting even first?

 

[nash8]

It depends, how does one get ahead without getting even first?

Interesting on many different levels.

 

[Trantorfuzz]

I see darkness as my spiritual side and light as my animalistic or materialistic side.If i am not mistaken in some left hand path beliefs light, god, demiurge and material universe are the same.So when i feel this darkness is increasing also my spirituality is increasing and if decreasing i feel like i am trapped in material becoming more animalistic. // So how can i increase this darkness?

Certainly not by following the Left-Hand Path. Followers of the Left-Hand Path generally don't think of animalistic/materialistic and spiritual as mutually exclusive. And they don't de-capitalize the pronoun "I" either. The Self is not to be denigrated or denied as it is among mainstream Right-Hand Path religions. The Left Hand Path exalts the Self and empowers it with Magick.

My advice to you is to read as much as you can about Gnosticism. It has some relationships to hermetic traditions, but does contrast the spiritual with the material much as you seem to.

 

[dave_]

It depends, how does one get ahead without getting even first?

Sorry for my bad english.If you mean one must balance the spiritual and materialistic to survive i agree but it would be better if we dont have to spend our energy to mundane at all.

The reason i said darkness and not simply spirituality is because the spirituality i mention consists some hatred and aggression toward life and mundane.For example i believe love, sexuality somehow weakens human beings and hatred makes us strong and pure.As our emotions die we transcend weakness and human i think.

Since i was a child i liked horror movies, horror games etc.This was the reason i became interested in satanism and other lhp.I didnt like the perversion or raw violence but that dark feeling.When i watch a dark anime or play Baldurs Gate for example this makes me feel alive and feel darkness.In lhp darkness refers to ego or power of self as i understand, what i mean with darkness may be a little different.

I searched Gnosticism a little and liked what i see.All the better there is even satanic gnosticism.

 

[Mindmaster]

I'm simply not sure what the OP means. I'm a highly spiritual person (by accident mind you haha) and so far off the deep end in the LHP I can't come back the other way. I feel the LHP is much more about being able to realize your thoughts and actions without bias regardless of what camp you think you're in. That's the heart of the LHP really -- this freedom to do as one wills and needs at any point without an ounce of guilt or concern for others wishes unless it is important for you personally to do so. This is the first step really... After that.. well you're journey is going to be nothing like mine. You have your own sets of programming, social biases, and non-productive thoughts to overcome. Once you do all this repeatedly over time you can step outside the fortress of lies and dismantle them. Then you can see yourself, and the universe around you as it truly is.

 

[crossfire]

Question, dave_: can you discern whether it is the actual emotion of aggression you are clinging to, or is it the activation of the brain further back than the spot behind your eyeballs that you are looking for? You can plug into this area without the aggression/hatred and not lose your mind. If you cling to the aggression/hatred, you may very well lose your mind.

 

[ScottySatan]

That is an excellent question!

I'm not sure.

Try sinning more.

 

[nash8]

Sorry for my bad english.If you mean one must balance the spiritual and materialistic to survive i agree but it would be better if we dont have to spend our energy to mundane at all.

The reason i said darkness and not simply spirituality is because the spirituality i mention consists some hatred and aggression toward life and mundane.For example i believe love, sexuality somehow weakens human beings and hatred makes us strong and pure.As our emotions die we transcend weakness and human i think.

Since i was a child i liked horror movies, horror games etc.This was the reason i became interested in satanism and other lhp.I didnt like the perversion or raw violence but that dark feeling.When i watch a dark anime or play Baldurs Gate for example this makes me feel alive and feel darkness.In lhp darkness refers to ego or power of self as i understand, what i mean with darkness may be a little different.

I searched Gnosticism a little and liked what i see.All the better there is even satanic gnosticism.

Yeah that's interesting, most people associate the two the opposite way you have. But I have personally been thinking that both the darkness and the light pertain to both aspects yet in different ways.

But as far as the pleasure in horror movies goes. I would say that you have a connection between the limibic system, which controls aggression and fear, and the basal ganglia, which controls positive emotion and/or reward - what makes you feel good. So when you stimulate the aggression part of your brain it stimulates

Limbic system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Basal ganglia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If your looking at increasing spirituality, check out different forms of meditation as well. I don't particularly recomend one, because it's definitely personal preference. There's so many though, you should be able to find one you like.

Sincee you seem to like agression, you might wanna check this out too. One of my buddies at work sounds a lot like you, and this seems to help him out a lot.
Uppsala - Berserkergang

 

[dave_]

Maybe i am just confused but here are my thoughts

I think i came to a better understanding now.

The reason i said darkness and not simply spirituality is because the spirituality i mention consists some hatred and aggression toward life and mundane.For example i believe love, sexuality somehow weakens human beings and hatred makes us strong and pure.As our emotions die we transcend weakness and human i think.

In fact i was trying to say predatory here and and when i think about it now by increasing darkness i tried to say being more predatory and less emotional.I believe emotions make us get materialistic because they weaken and control people also they cause physiological responses in body.I could get rid of emotions partially perhaps i just repressed them but i feel they are still there and i want get rid of them for good.I know buddhism can give a better control over emotions but it wont destroy them and make me the cold hearted person i want to be.

 

[ScottySatan]

In fact i was trying to say predatory here and and when i think about it now by increasing darkness i tried to say being more predatory and less emotional.I believe emotions make us get materialistic because they weaken and control people also they cause physiological responses in body.I could get rid of emotions partially perhaps i just repressed them but i feel they are still there and i want get rid of them for good.I know buddhism can give a better control over emotions but it wont destroy them and make me the cold hearted person i want to be.

Go fight in a war?

 

[crossfire]

I think i came to a better understanding now.



In fact i was trying to say predatory here and and when i think about it now by increasing darkness i tried to say being more predatory and less emotional.I believe emotions make us get materialistic because they weaken and control people also they cause physiological responses in body.I could get rid of emotions partially perhaps i just repressed them but i feel they are still there and i want get rid of them for good.I know buddhism can give a better control over emotions but it wont destroy them and make me the cold hearted person i want to be.

Ahh, so you want to be mechanistic like to objective universe?

 

[dave_]

I'd like to be like Dexter, i mean the character in the TV series.Not necessarily a criminal but without human weaknesses, unstoppable and cool.

I read some books on psychopathy.They dont know what depression, fear, weakness is.They bow to noone and take whatever they want.Isnt this totally lhp?If so lhp should give me necessary tools to become like them.

 

[crossfire]

I'd like to be like Dexter, i mean the character in the TV series.Not necessarily a criminal but without human weaknesses, unstoppable and cool.

I read some books on psychopathy.They dont know what depression, fear, weakness is.They bow to noone and take whatever they want.Isnt this totally lhp?If so lhp should give me necessary tools to become like them.

This isn't what the lhp is all about, from what I can discern. I may be mistaken, but I do believe that you need to experience these human weaknesses in order to have a black flame experience. I could be wrong, though. Perhaps another member here can set me straight?

 

[dave_]

Majority of psychopaths are not criminals by the way.In fact some successful people like CEOs, politicians score higher in psychopathy scale tests compared to general population.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

The fact that anyone wants to be like a politician makes me feel bad

 

[Adramelek]

How to increase Darkness?

Question all things, even your own beliefs.
Recognize that no matter how much knowledge you have attained you still know nothing.
Recognize the potential of Self as infinite.
Understand that the quest for absolute or divine self-hood/self-perfection (the complete self) is an eternal journey - ah, such adventure!
Seek after the Mysteries.

Xeper and Remanifest.
/Adramelek\
Gnothi seauton!

 

[Orias]

Interesting on many different levels.

Sorry for my bad english.If you mean one must balance the spiritual and materialistic to survive i agree but it would be better if we dont have to spend our energy to mundane at all.

The reason i said darkness and not simply spirituality is because the spirituality i mention consists some hatred and aggression toward life and mundane.For example i believe love, sexuality somehow weakens human beings and hatred makes us strong and pure.As our emotions die we transcend weakness and human i think.

Since i was a child i liked horror movies, horror games etc.This was the reason i became interested in satanism and other lhp.I didnt like the perversion or raw violence but that dark feeling.When i watch a dark anime or play Baldurs Gate for example this makes me feel alive and feel darkness.In lhp darkness refers to ego or power of self as i understand, what i mean with darkness may be a little different.

I searched Gnosticism a little and liked what i see.All the better there is even satanic gnosticism.

Interesting. From my perspective, mundane is only exceeded by appreciation. Aggression...hatered...these things have a tendency to motivate little besides self pity and under appreciation towards the value and gift of Satan (being the realization of life).

When you think about life, in its totality, what exactly is "mundane"?

Xeper!

 

[dave_]

Interesting. From my perspective, mundane is only exceeded by appreciation. Aggression...hatered...these things have a tendency to motivate little besides self pity and under appreciation towards the value and gift of Satan (being the realization of life).

When you think about life, in its totality, what exactly is "mundane"?

Xeper!

Being controlled by bodily pain and pleasure, sexuality, emotions comes to my mind.Because i could partially get rid of these i can see how these limit and slow down people or at least people like myself.I think this weakness is what i hate really.When i feel strong i appreciate life.