How To Win An Oscar For Best Picture

[Revoltingest]

I rather that our criteria for actors and actresses simply be who does it best - that's what I pay for, lol.

As far as I am concerned, that ended in the 90s -- films are in a serious slump, and the mediocre films even from that time are better than the best ones out there now.

Nah, there were great ones after the 90s (IMO).
- AI
- 300
- Avatar
- Sin City
- Big Fish
- Memento
- Cast Away
- Kill Bill 1 & 2
- Batman Begins
- V For Vendetta
- Deadpool 1 & 2
- The Dark Knight
- Spiderman (2002)
- Harry Potter movies
- No Country For Old Men
- Lord Of The Rings movies

 

[Revoltingest]

All that babbling and rambling between the show is an awards show interrupting such a great comedy show?

Of course, the awards & drama are necessary
for RG to mock.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Of course, the awards & drama are necessary
for RG to mock.

Not for interrupting him though. Who gives a crap about awards and drama. Gervais has "full of themselves" celebrities amd people to punch at.

 

[Revoltingest]

Not for interrupting him though. Who gives a crap about awards and drama. Gervais has "full of themselves" celebrities amd people to punch at.

The interruptions provide material for ad libbing.

 

[Stevicus]

Oscars: New Representation and Inclusion Standards for Best Picture - Variety
Excerpted....
The diversity and inclusion initiative has been a heavy focus for the Oscars the past few years, shown by the expansive membership initiative. As part of the Academy Aperture 2025 initiative, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences announced Tuesday new representation and inclusion standards in order to be eligible in the best picture category.

For the 94th and 95th Oscars ceremonies, scheduled for 2022 and 2023, a film will submit a confidential Academy Inclusion Standards form to be considered for best picture. Beginning in 2024, for the 96th Oscars, a film submitting for best picture will need to meet the inclusion thresholds by meeting two of the four standards.

All other Academy categories will keep their current eligibility requirements. For categories such as animated feature, documentary feature and international feature, that submit for best picture consideration, they will be addressed separately.

For a number of years, the Academy has struggled to nominate films that are diverse in its cast, directors, and technical craftspeople. In 2016, after they failed to nominate any person of color among their 20 acting nominees, Cheryl Boone Isaacs, who was Academy President at the time, took historic action by committing to doubling the number of women and diverse members by 2020, which they have achieved.

Academy President David Rubin and Academy CEO Dawn Hudson said in a joint statement, “The aperture must widen to reflect our diverse global population in both the creation of motion pictures and in the audiences who connect with them. The Academy is committed to playing a vital role in helping make this a reality.” They continued, “the Academy is committed to playing a vital role in helping make this a reality.”

The standards are as follows:

STANDARD A: ON-SCREEN REPRESENTATION, THEMES AND NARRATIVES
To achieve Standard A, the film must meet ONE of the following criteria:

A1. Lead or significant supporting actors

At least one of the lead actors or significant supporting actors is from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group.

• Asian
• Hispanic/Latinx
• Black/African American
• Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
• Middle Eastern/North African
• Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
• Other underrepresented race or ethnicity

A2. General ensemble cast

At least 30% of all actors in secondary and more minor roles are from at least two of the following underrepresented groups:

• Women
• Racial or ethnic group
• LGBTQ+
• People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

A3. Main storyline/subject matter

The main storyline(s), theme or narrative of the film is centered on an underrepresented group(s).

• Women
• Racial or ethnic group
• LGBTQ+
• People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

STANDARD B: CREATIVE LEADERSHIP AND PROJECT TEAM
To achieve Standard B, the film must meet ONE of the criteria below:
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Back to me, the list continues with more detailed quantitative criteria.

Perhaps Star Trek might meet this criteria. It's high time they finally got recognition from the Academy.

 

[Revoltingest]

Perhaps Star Trek might meet this criteria. It's high time they finally got recognition from the Academy.

They don't like sci fi.

 

[Mindmaster]

Nah, there were great ones after the 90s (IMO).
- AI
- 300
- Avatar
- Sin City
- Big Fish
- Memento
- Cast Away
- Kill Bill 1 & 2
- Batman Begins
- V For Vendetta
- Deadpool 1 & 2
- The Dark Knight
- Spiderman (2002)
- Harry Potter movies
- No Country For Old Men
- Lord Of The Rings movies

Yes, but think about how many they've actually made since... And...

I'm just saying since the woke PC crap got involved the slump is real.

 

[Secret Chief]

These are the top ten global grossing films of 2019: (not full title where a franchise):

Star Wars

Fast and Furious

Aladdin

Joker

Toy Story

Captain Marvel

Spider-man

Frozen

The Lion King

Avengers

As is apparent from this list, the film industry's major (American) companies - such as Disney - has as its main target teenagers (or, tactfully, adults that like films only requiring a teenager's level of maturity). Joker is only there because it comes from a comic book franchise.

 

[Revoltingest]

Yes, but think about how many they've actually made since... And...

I'm just saying since the woke PC crap got involved the slump is real.

I'll still expect some great movies...they're just less likely to win an Oscar.

 

[Revoltingest]

These are the top ten global grossing films of 2019: (not full title where a franchise):

Star Wars

Fast and Furious

Aladdin

Joker

Toy Story

Captain Marvel

Spider-man

Frozen

The Lion King

Avengers

As is apparent from this list, the film industry's major (American) companies - such as Disney - has as its main target teenagers (or, tactfully, adults that like films only requiring a teenager's level of maturity). Joker is only there because it comes from a comic book franchise.

TV series have risen to become strong competitors to movies.
It's a richer venue cuz movies have to cram so much into a
couple hours. A series can take its time to tell a story.
Treme
Dexter
The Wire
Deadwood
American Gods
Downton Abbey
Game Of Thrones
The Venture Brothers
Boardwalk Empire
Better Call Saul
Breaking Bad
Samurai Jack
Westworld
Chernobyl
Mr Robot
Legion
Fargo

 

[Secret Chief]

TV series have risen to become strong competitors to movies.

So are you saying films have been dumbed down because they are in competition with dumbed down mainstream TV?

It's a richer venue cuz movies have to cram so much into a
couple hours.

Why should a film be "cramming" more in? (To compensate for the juvenile attention span I suspect).

 

[Stevicus]

They don't like sci fi.

They're probably going to have to now.

TV series have risen to become strong competitors to movies.
It's a richer venue cuz movies have to cram so much into a
couple hours. A series can take its time to tell a story.
Treme
Dexter
The Wire
Deadwood
American Gods
Downton Abbey
Game Of Thrones
The Venture Brothers
Boardwalk Empire
Better Call Saul
Breaking Bad
Samurai Jack
Westworld
Chernobyl
Mr Robot
Legion
Fargo

Yeah, but could any of them ever compare to The Starlost?

 

[Revoltingest]

They're probably going to have to now.


Yeah, but could any of them ever compare to The Starlost?

Ew.....I'd never seen or even heard of that.
You fiend !!!!!

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Oscars: New Representation and Inclusion Standards for Best Picture - Variety
Excerpted....
The diversity and inclusion initiative has been a heavy focus for the Oscars the past few years, shown by the expansive membership initiative. As part of the Academy Aperture 2025 initiative, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences announced Tuesday new representation and inclusion standards in order to be eligible in the best picture category.

For the 94th and 95th Oscars ceremonies, scheduled for 2022 and 2023, a film will submit a confidential Academy Inclusion Standards form to be considered for best picture. Beginning in 2024, for the 96th Oscars, a film submitting for best picture will need to meet the inclusion thresholds by meeting two of the four standards.

All other Academy categories will keep their current eligibility requirements. For categories such as animated feature, documentary feature and international feature, that submit for best picture consideration, they will be addressed separately.

For a number of years, the Academy has struggled to nominate films that are diverse in its cast, directors, and technical craftspeople. In 2016, after they failed to nominate any person of color among their 20 acting nominees, Cheryl Boone Isaacs, who was Academy President at the time, took historic action by committing to doubling the number of women and diverse members by 2020, which they have achieved.

Academy President David Rubin and Academy CEO Dawn Hudson said in a joint statement, “The aperture must widen to reflect our diverse global population in both the creation of motion pictures and in the audiences who connect with them. The Academy is committed to playing a vital role in helping make this a reality.” They continued, “the Academy is committed to playing a vital role in helping make this a reality.”

The standards are as follows:

STANDARD A: ON-SCREEN REPRESENTATION, THEMES AND NARRATIVES
To achieve Standard A, the film must meet ONE of the following criteria:

A1. Lead or significant supporting actors

At least one of the lead actors or significant supporting actors is from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group.

• Asian
• Hispanic/Latinx
• Black/African American
• Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
• Middle Eastern/North African
• Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
• Other underrepresented race or ethnicity

A2. General ensemble cast

At least 30% of all actors in secondary and more minor roles are from at least two of the following underrepresented groups:

• Women
• Racial or ethnic group
• LGBTQ+
• People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

A3. Main storyline/subject matter

The main storyline(s), theme or narrative of the film is centered on an underrepresented group(s).

• Women
• Racial or ethnic group
• LGBTQ+
• People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

STANDARD B: CREATIVE LEADERSHIP AND PROJECT TEAM
To achieve Standard B, the film must meet ONE of the criteria below:
------
Back to me, the list continues with more detailed quantitative criteria.

A lot of period movies are out then, unless we're expected to believe that blacks lived in Medieval England or Scandinavia (for example).

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Perhaps Star Trek might meet this criteria. It's high time they finally got recognition from the Academy.

Im pissed that people erroneously believe transgender characters are new to the series. No. Those bungholes have just never watched TNG. Because Riker does fall in love with a character who transgender and expresses what we would call gender dysphoria, and when "convertion surgery" was performed on her against her will it was a serious and major outrage. (And apparently the crew of the episode wasn't happy with that episode because they wanted to go further with it, and I'm impressed with it as that was late 80s). And at the wedding of Riker or Troi, Data did acknowledge transgender guests present.
It would be great for it to get recognition, but credit needs to go where credit is due. If Kirk and Uhuru's kiss isn't acknowledged it's all a sham.
And it is sci-fi, so it's likely to not win.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Nah, there were great ones after the 90s (IMO).
- AI
- 300
- Avatar
- Sin City
- Big Fish
- Memento
- Cast Away
- Kill Bill 1 & 2
- Batman Begins
- V For Vendetta
- Deadpool 1 & 2
- The Dark Knight
- Spiderman (2002)
- Harry Potter movies
- No Country For Old Men
- Lord Of The Rings movies

Those are some good ones. And regardless of what people complain about I still say 300 is probably the closest anyone has ever come to telling the story like the Spartans would have.
And Sin City has some amazing cinematography and I enjoy how everyone's story is somehow tied together and overlapping.
Oddly though and surprising and odd I didn't really like Kill Bill.

 

[Stevicus]

Ew.....I'd never seen or even heard of that.
You fiend !!!!!

It was an interesting premise which had potential, but it was produced in Canada. Harlan Ellison created it, but he didn't want his name on the finished product, so he changed it to "Cordwainer Bird."

 

[ADigitalArtist]

A lot of period movies are out then, unless we're expected to believe that blacks lived in Medieval England or Scandinavia (for example).

Of course there were. Some were full citizens, (especially black Moorish Tudors as well as black Scottish aristocracy) some were slaves or marginalized.
There's even a lot of poc depiction in medieval paintings and literature, including Shakespeare. Trade with Africa and the Middle East goes back an incredibly long time and emigration happened both ways.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Im pissed that people erroneously believe transgender characters are new to the series. No. Those bungholes have just never watched TNG. Because Riker does fall in love with a character who transgender and expresses what we would call gender dysphoria, and when "convertion surgery" was performed on her against her will it was a serious and major outrage. (And apparently the crew of the episode wasn't happy with that episode because they wanted to go further with it, and I'm impressed with it as that was late 80s). And at the wedding of Riker or Troi, Data did acknowledge transgender guests present.
It would be great for it to get recognition, but credit needs to go where credit is due. If Kirk and Uhuru's kiss isn't acknowledged it's all a sham.
And it is sci-fi, so it's likely to not win.

Also this one:

 

[ADigitalArtist]

So are you saying films have been dumbed down because they are in competition with dumbed down mainstream TV?


Why should a film be "cramming" more in? (To compensate for the juvenile attention span I suspect).

The elitist would say that films and TV series are just to compensate for the juvenile attention spans of people who don't read books. Neither films nor TV series are necessarily more juvenile than the other, but a TV series does have more time to explore complex subjects than movies. Does that mean they do? No, most of the time they don't. But I can see the appeal, especially on book adaptations, towards series rather than movies.