whirlingmerc
Well-Known Member
How does a fallen, simple, naive child or person in general take a leap of faith toward the light
and what does it look like?
and what does it look like?
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How to you follow wisdom instead of folly regarding life and God?
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PeteC-UK
Active Member
Hi Folks..
Whirlingmerc; Fallen..??....
Simple - naive perhaps some are - but NONE are "fallen"...not in the sense you imply anyway....Simple naive children ALREADY LIVE in the Light - dont you remember..??...lol...
As a child we had this connection within us always - paid attention to it always - THIS IS WISDOM....lol...
As we grew -OTHERS - the world out there - led us AWAY from the Light its wisdom and truth - they taught us who and what we are and what this truth was to THEM in THIS world - and so we lost our innocence and followed their error adopted their error as our own...
If then we NOW want to get our wisdom back - to stand again in that Light - then we MUST first -strip back all those learned and preconceived ideas of "self" that have been forced upon us and which we have identified now fully with...Part of that would be to also drop this religious preconception of truth also - which is actually and precisely what Christ really taught
Wisdom - Light - He said indeed there is Light WITHIN a man of Light -seek it - find it - bring it forth here and now - have THAT guidance and follow it and it alone ALWAYS - thus He said you will "save" your Self...This is a valid and legitimate inner process - it reveals that which the religion have termed the Holy Ghost - but - it is not a religious truth at all - but rather - it is a metaphysical knowledge of SELF - an INNER process of mending this broken mind and reconnecting again with that DIVINE SOURCE and Light within..
What does it look like..?....Well He said you can not find it in the religion - damn those pharisees He said - they dont know truth and ALWAYS lead you astray...And neither can you listen to the "parents" to find this truth - but instead, must come to "hate" them - for they too give you error and falsehood... Instead He advised when we seek this Light - my Father as He terms it - then go ALONE into a secret place - shut the door and do not let the world intrude....Empty away all that PRECONCEPTION of truth - Seek INWARDS as advised - for a deep secret empty STATE OF MIND - here in this inner silent void - a LIGHT will indeed come and shine forth - a PRESENCE will indeed become known and realised....This IS the Holy Ghost - and without it, there is no "wisdom" at all He said - without this Light, you are living i n poverty...
Not a religious truth at all - but a legitimate INNER journey of Self discovery - if you really want to find that Light that the religion fails to explain - but Christ gives direct access to as a LIVING phenomena and direct experience - then there -THAT is what it looks like - withdraw from the world as best you may - seek inwards and invite its Presence - commune DIRECTLY - call it forth often, always as best we can - become it here and now and thus claim your eternal nature and have available, the eternal Wisdom that You already Are - for those with ears to hear....
Whirlingmerc; Fallen..??....
Simple - naive perhaps some are - but NONE are "fallen"...not in the sense you imply anyway....Simple naive children ALREADY LIVE in the Light - dont you remember..??...lol...
As a child we had this connection within us always - paid attention to it always - THIS IS WISDOM....lol...
As we grew -OTHERS - the world out there - led us AWAY from the Light its wisdom and truth - they taught us who and what we are and what this truth was to THEM in THIS world - and so we lost our innocence and followed their error adopted their error as our own...
If then we NOW want to get our wisdom back - to stand again in that Light - then we MUST first -strip back all those learned and preconceived ideas of "self" that have been forced upon us and which we have identified now fully with...Part of that would be to also drop this religious preconception of truth also - which is actually and precisely what Christ really taught
Wisdom - Light - He said indeed there is Light WITHIN a man of Light -seek it - find it - bring it forth here and now - have THAT guidance and follow it and it alone ALWAYS - thus He said you will "save" your Self...This is a valid and legitimate inner process - it reveals that which the religion have termed the Holy Ghost - but - it is not a religious truth at all - but rather - it is a metaphysical knowledge of SELF - an INNER process of mending this broken mind and reconnecting again with that DIVINE SOURCE and Light within..
What does it look like..?....Well He said you can not find it in the religion - damn those pharisees He said - they dont know truth and ALWAYS lead you astray...And neither can you listen to the "parents" to find this truth - but instead, must come to "hate" them - for they too give you error and falsehood... Instead He advised when we seek this Light - my Father as He terms it - then go ALONE into a secret place - shut the door and do not let the world intrude....Empty away all that PRECONCEPTION of truth - Seek INWARDS as advised - for a deep secret empty STATE OF MIND - here in this inner silent void - a LIGHT will indeed come and shine forth - a PRESENCE will indeed become known and realised....This IS the Holy Ghost - and without it, there is no "wisdom" at all He said - without this Light, you are living i n poverty...
Not a religious truth at all - but a legitimate INNER journey of Self discovery - if you really want to find that Light that the religion fails to explain - but Christ gives direct access to as a LIVING phenomena and direct experience - then there -THAT is what it looks like - withdraw from the world as best you may - seek inwards and invite its Presence - commune DIRECTLY - call it forth often, always as best we can - become it here and now and thus claim your eternal nature and have available, the eternal Wisdom that You already Are - for those with ears to hear....
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
How do you know that leap of faith toward the light isn't a big bug zapper?
whirlingmerc
Well-Known Member
I'm sure she has her ups and downs... and you didn't comment about Lady Wisdom being Megan Kelly.... interesting.... It's artistic license.
whirlingmerc
Well-Known Member
You're so much fun, Tumnah. I disagree. Proverbs is significantly about choosing 'the way of wisdom' over 'the way of folly'
By the way... notice a pattern?... the top 7 most quoted books in the New Testament are
wait for it....
1. Psalms
2. Isaiah
3. Deuteronomy
4. Genesis
5. Exodus
6. Leviticus
7. Proverbs
And yes, a major theme of Proverbs is 'the simple, the naive' drawn to two paths: a way of wisdom and a way of folly, personified by Lady Wisdom and Madame Folly.
Milton Platt
Well-Known Member
Those are not in the New Testament
Oh that's a whole separate issue in itself. One that, if I care to not lose any more faith in humanity today, I will continue to ignore.
whirlingmerc
Well-Known Member
OK I did give Lady Gaga a picture of her leading a motorcycle gang... I'm sure she's pleased with that...
Tumah
Veteran Member
Which way does non sequitur fall under?
The only pattern I noticed is a certain posters penchant for not making normal posts that people might consider actually reading.
Judging by the direction your thread is going, which path do you think your way of making threads frequents?