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Humans are still evolving...

Thief

Rogue Theologian
you provide no evidence and demand belief

wont happen.

if you havnt noticed this thread is about how humans are still evolving.

its not talking about abiogenesis


do you have anything relevant to add??

You seem to be talking to someone else.

Never mind.
 

Dirty Penguin

Master Of Ceremony
So don't use religion.

I don't.

Use logic...and make a choice.

Logic means little. If logic can not be substantiated with testable and falsifiable evidence then it is no different than claims made by religion.

Which came first?...intellect or substance.

Substance...considering that's what science deals in. If there is anything outside of our space/time we're not aware of it.

The deal with the consequence for your choice.

What consequences are you talking about?
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
I don't.



Logic means little. If logic can not be substantiated with testable and falsifiable evidence then it is no different than claims made by religion.



Substance...considering that's what science deals in. If there is anything outside of our space/time we're not aware of it.



What consequences are you talking about?

This indicates you HAVE made a choice.

And having done so a theological discussion means 'what' to you?

Apparently...nothing.

So, why are you here?
(you need not reply)
 

Dirty Penguin

Master Of Ceremony
This indicates you HAVE made a choice.

And having done so a theological discussion means 'what' to you?

Apparently...nothing.

So, why are you here?
(you need not reply)

Don't flatter yourself. It's not a good look on you. This is not simply a "theological discussion" considering the category it's in as well as the thread title. This discussion centers around two opposing understandings of the origin and diversification of life. Evolution we have testable evidence for while creator gods we don't. What it boils down to is "Fact" verses "Faith....


You need not reply.......
 

Copernicus

Industrial Strength Linguist
This indicates you HAVE made a choice.

And having done so a theological discussion means 'what' to you?

Apparently...nothing.

So, why are you here?
(you need not reply)
Thief, we all get it. You feel a need to proselytize your religious beliefs, and you think that these pretentious statements and rhetorical questions will serve that purpose. But this is still a debate thread about evolution. Can you try to contribute to that topic of discussion rather than making it all about you?
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Thief, we all get it. You feel a need to proselytize your religious beliefs, and you think that these pretentious statements and rhetorical questions will serve that purpose. But this is still a debate thread about evolution. Can you try to contribute to that topic of discussion rather than making it all about you?

And you think your denial of a Creator...while discussion His creation....
turns the discussion to me?

Poor redirect.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Don't flatter yourself. It's not a good look on you. This is not simply a "theological discussion" considering the category it's in as well as the thread title. This discussion centers around two opposing understandings of the origin and diversification of life. Evolution we have testable evidence for while creator gods we don't. What it boils down to is "Fact" verses "Faith....


You need not reply.......

This title is listed under....religious topics...religious debates....
evolution versus creationism....

And you want to leave God out of it?
 

Copernicus

Industrial Strength Linguist
This title is listed under....religious topics...religious debates....
evolution versus creationism....

And you want to leave God out of it?
No, we want to include creationism and evolution in the discussion, not your endless self-promotions.
 

Copernicus

Industrial Strength Linguist
Never mind the shallow redirect.....

Do you think God AND evolution work?

I do.

God did it.
Yes, we know you believe that and that I reject your belief. Do you have an actual argument to back up your belief that "God did it"? The theory of evolution makes perfect sense without bringing deities into it. Its workings require no miraculous interventions, nor is there any evidence that such interventions have occurred in the past.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Yes, we know you believe that and that I reject your belief. Do you have an actual argument to back up your belief that "God did it"? The theory of evolution makes perfect sense without bringing deities into it. Its workings require no miraculous interventions, nor is there any evidence that such interventions have occurred in the past.

No witness....perhaps....
Unless of course you willing to consider Genesis Chapter Two...a possibility.

What...God can't tweak His creation?
 

camanintx

Well-Known Member
You're trying to side step.
I'm not the one being obtuse.

The purpose of this life is to learn all you can.
That would be your choice.

That is the only thing your body can actually do for you.
My body is capable of much more.

Then back to God you go.
Can't go back to a place I've never been and that doesn't exist.

The portion I highlighted....is just more opportunity for another soul.
Funny how much faith people can put into something, a soul, which has never been demonstrated.
 

Dirty Penguin

Master Of Ceremony
This title is listed under....religious topics...religious debates....
evolution versus creationism....

And you want to leave God out of it?


We can include the "idea" of a creator god (there are SO MANY OF THEM)....but the idea breaks down quickly due to lack of evidence.
 
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