Humans did NOT evolve from the common ancestor of Apes

[Aman777]

Nobody denies humans are a species. They diverged as other fellow apes.

It is a scientific category, humans chimps and others like us are classified as great apes. If you have controversy show us and science.

Dear idav, Sure. Since Humans are a Special Creation, made billions of years BEFORE any other living creature, it is Impossible that Humans could have diverged from Apes. Gen 2:4-7 The sons of God (prehistoric people) did evolve from the common ancestor of Apes, but they were NOT Humans. Godless Evols are the problem since they falsely teach our children such Foolishness. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[Aman777]

You really need to stop your lying.
You have not presented a shred of history or science.

In fact, all you present is your own twisted version of the Bible.

Dear Mestemia, I haven't lied since you have been unable to refute me either Scripturally, Scientifically, or Historically. Guess who that leaves as the liar? God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[Runewolf1973]

Dear Runewolf, I didn't say that. Most people are fooled by satan's lies. All it means is that many naive people don't question the Falsehoods of Evolution which cannot be supported by scripture, science, nor history. The reason is simple. They have been lied to from the time they were little children and now they accept Evolution because they don't seek to find actual evidence for their beliefs. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

It is you who are being fooled by the falsehoods in the Bible. I can understand that though because it is all too easy to pick up a Bible and just blindly accept it as truth. It is too easy and that to me says it is a lie. That's what Satan would want...easy converts to blindly accept his lies. Perhaps you choose the easy path, but I choose the harder path. I look for the truth in nature because I know nature does not lie. The Bible is a complete work of fiction created by Man. Evolution is process of nature that Man discovered and has shown to be true. Man has long since found that truth and the Bible has long since been proven false. It is only naive ones such as yourself who still carry on with this Bible creation nonsense.


By the way... Where is the actual evidence to support your claims against evolution? Where is the actual evidence that your God exists? I want to see physical evidence, not quotes from the Bible which is about as much evidence as presents under the Christmas Tree is evidence for Santa Claus. The evidence for evolution is in the fossil record and in our own genes.




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[Aman777]

It is you who are being fooled by the falsehoods in the Bible. I can understand that though because it is all too easy to pick up a Bible and just blindly accept it as truth. It is too easy and that to me says it is a lie. That's what Satan would want...easy converts to blindly accept his lies. Perhaps you choose the easy path, but I choose the harder path. I look for the truth in nature because I know nature does not lie. The Bible is a complete work of fiction created by Man. Evolution is process of nature that Man discovered and has shown to be true. Man has long since found that truth and the Bible has long since been proven false. It is only naive ones such as yourself who still carry on with this Bible creation nonsense.

By the way... Where is the actual evidence to support your claims against evolution? Where is the actual evidence that your God exists? I want to see physical evidence, not quotes from the Bible which is about as much evidence as presents under the Christmas Tree is evidence for Santa Claus. The evidence for evolution is in the fossil record and in our own genes.---

Dear Runewolf, Here is the evidence which NO Godless Evol has been able to refute. From the above post, I can see that you too have been fooled by the Lies of Evolism. The evidence is from what Genesis actually says, instead of the traditional religious view of ancient goatherders. It's up to you to explain HOW ancient men could have possibly known:

1. That we live in a Multiverse, which is shown in Gen 1:6-8 and Gen 2:4 and shows that our Multiverse is composed of at least THREE Universes.
2. That the Big Bang of our Cosmos was on the THIRD Day Gen 2:4 and the FIRST Stars of our Universe did NOT light until the FOURTH Day. Gen 1:16
3. That EVERY living creature, except Humans, was created from the Water on the FIFTH Day. Gen 1:21 Science agrees, since the cells within our bodies cannot live without liquid water.

That's THREE things which NO ancient man could have known and yet it is written in Genesis. Can you tell us how ANY man could have correctly shown the above Scientific Facts 3k years ago? Of course NOT, but try anyway, unless you are ashamed of your previous post. I have more, including EMPIRICAL Historic evidence IF you don't run away first. God Bless you.

BTW, Please use the King James Version of Scripture in order to avoid the mistakes of later Paraphrased versions of God's Holy Word.

In Love,
Aman

 

[Sapiens]

None of the three things you cite are, in fact, fully accurate.

1. Demonstrate the claimed tripartite multiverse.
2. Complete hogswash.
3. Sure, HOH is needed, but that demonstrates nothing about timing or origin.

 

[Runewolf1973]

Dear Runewolf, Here is the evidence which NO Godless Evol has been able to refute. From the above post, I can see that you too have been fooled by the Lies of Evolism. The evidence is from what Genesis actually says, instead of the traditional religious view of ancient goatherders. It's up to you to explain HOW ancient men could have possibly known:

1. That we live in a Multiverse, which is shown in Gen 1:6-8 and Gen 2:4 and shows that our Multiverse is composed of at least THREE Universes.
2. That the Big Bang of our Cosmos was on the THIRD Day Gen 2:4 and the FIRST Stars of our Universe did NOT light until the FOURTH Day. Gen 1:16
3. That EVERY living creature, except Humans, was created from the Water on the FIFTH Day. Gen 1:21 Science agrees, since the cells within our bodies cannot live without liquid water.

That's THREE things which NO ancient man could have known and yet it is written in Genesis. Can you tell us how ANY man could have correctly shown the above Scientific Facts 3k years ago? Of course NOT, but try anyway, unless you are ashamed of your previous post. I have more, including EMPIRICAL Historic evidence IF you don't run away first. God Bless you.

BTW, Please use the King James Version of Scripture in order to avoid the mistakes of later Paraphrased versions of God's Holy Word.

In Love,
Aman

You continue to use the words "empirical evidence" wrongly. Empirical evidence is attained through close observation and experimentation. What you are providing is anecdotal evidence at best. It is not really true evidence of anything. What scientific experiments have you performed that have given you this so-called empirical evidence of yours? Science has much empirical evidence, physical observations, and experimentation recorded and documented to validate evolution. You on the other hand, have provided nothing by hearsay.

 

[Riverwolf]

You can call yourself an ape if you want to....

Why wouldn't anyone "want to"? Is there something wrong with being an ape?

 

[Riverwolf]

Dear Mestemia, I haven't lied since you have been unable to refute me either Scripturally, Scientifically, or Historically.

You've been unable to refute any of the arguments presented to you.

 

[Aman777]

None of the three things you cite are, in fact, fully accurate.

1. Demonstrate the claimed tripartite multiverse.
2. Complete hogswash.
3. Sure, HOH is needed, but that demonstrates nothing about timing or origin.

Dear Sapiens, Sure they are:

1. Adam's Heaven was made the 2nd Day. Gen 1:6-8 A Day is 4.5 Billion years in man's time. Other HeavenS were made Billions of years later on the 3rd Day. Gen 2:4 One of these is our 2nd Heaven and the other is the Third Heaven of ll Corinthians 12:2. Physicists are currently trying to confirm that we live in a Multiverse with some eleven other Universes. Parallel universes. [VIDEO] The old LiSA project is scheduled for launch this year by the Europeans.

2. The Beginning or Big Bang of our cosmos was on the 3rd Day, as Gen 2:4 shows. Do you have better data on this? or must you admit the backward thinking of today's scientists who REJECT God's Truth in Genesis?

3. Not to those who THINK they know what Genesis is actually teaching us.

Gen 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after Their (Trinity) kind, and every winged fowl after His (Jesus) kind: and God saw that it was good.

Whether from drying on a rock in a hot spring or coming from a black smoker at the bottom of the Ocean, God's command produced life in Adam's world AND on our 2nd Heaven. This is important since we will find Life, as we know it on Planet Earth, all over our Cosmos. Science agrees and knows that without liquid water, there is No Life. God's Truth MUST agree with the discoveries of Science and History, and it does.

IF you don't agree, then please tell us HOW ancient men, who lived thousands of years BEFORE Science, knew this? They could NOT have known this. It's PROOF of God, in these last days. 2Pe 3:3-7. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[Aman777]

You continue to use the words "empirical evidence" wrongly. Empirical evidence is attained through close observation and experimentation. What you are providing is anecdotal evidence at best. It is not really true evidence of anything. What scientific experiments have you performed that have given you this so-called empirical evidence of yours? Science has much empirical evidence, physical observations, and experimentation recorded and documented to validate evolution. You on the other hand, have provided nothing by hearsay.

Dear Runewolf, Can you explain WHY every modern Human trait, which separates us from animals, only appeared some 10k years ago? Farming, math, city building, and writing began in the Valleys in the mountains of Ararat. For 99% of the time since prehistoric man diverged from Chimps, men lived as animals in Caves, and NEVER planted a crop nor even built himself a home or a tent. That's because prehistoric man did NOT have the Human intelligence which only Adam and God have. Gen 3:22

SUDDENLY, some 10k years ago, exactly where God told us in Gen 8:4 that the Ark arrived on our Earth, farming began, Gen 9:20 when Noah planted some grapes, so he could have some wine and get drunk, in typical Human fashion. I believe it's true evidence of the FIRST Human farming on our Planet. Do you have ANY evidence or are you going to ask me for something which today's Science has rejected as a Myth? I can't help the "willingly ignorant" Scoffers of the last Days. ll Peter 3:3-7 I can only tell you of God's Truth which agrees with Science and History in every way.

BTW, Here is the EMPIRICAL evidence of the SUDDEN arrival of Humans (the descendants of Adam) on this Planet of prehistoric people who were dumb as posts.

Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE

Since animals don't post, Aren't you glad you were made on another world and brought to this one in an Ark? Now, you know WHY the False ToE is nothing but an incomplete, totally inaccurate False Assumption, of men who have REJECTED God's Truth in Genesis. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[vskipper]

I would like to point one thing out which is so commonly ignored. The Israelites were a tribe (like the Cherokee) and the Torah is their oral radition of creation written down. Thus Adam would've been a Hebrew/Israelite. Get it?

 

[Aman777]

Why wouldn't anyone "want to"? Is there something wrong with being an ape?

Dear Riverwolf, Don't you know that Humans are destined to have dominion or rule over every other creature when Jesus returns? Gen 1:28 This includes ALL Apes, since they were made long AFTER Adam was made with the highest intelligence in Creation, which is like God's Gen 3:22 and is the common ancestor of ALL Humans? Gen 2:4-7

Apes are INNOCENT animals because they don't know good and evil, but Humans do, and must account for the deeds done while in the Flesh. Rev 20:13 God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[Aman777]

You've been unable to refute any of the arguments presented to you.

Dear Riverwolf, Name one. I keep waiting to destroy the False Assumptions of the DNA folks, but none seems to be knowledgable enough to discuss it. What God did, which has fooled the all knowing Evols, was to have two creations. "Natural" beings (prehistoric people) came forth from the water, (5th Day-Gen 1:21) and Humans were formed from the dust of the ground. (3rd Day-Gen 2:7)

Their BONES are identical, but the sons of God (prehistoric people) were NOT Humans and became Humans ONLY after they married and produced today's Humans with Noah's descendants. Gen 6:1-4 Prehistoric people INHERITED Adam's Human intelligence, and did NOT evolve from any Ape, as the False ToE wildly speculates. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[Runewolf1973]

Dear Riverwolf, Name one. I keep waiting to destroy the False Assumptions of the DNA folks, but none seems to be knowledgable enough to discuss it. What God did, which has fooled the all knowing Evols, was to have two creations. "Natural" beings (prehistoric people) came forth from the water, (5th Day-Gen 1:21) and Humans were formed from the dust of the ground. (3rd Day-Gen 2:7)

Their BONES are identical, but the sons of God (prehistoric people) were NOT Humans and became Humans ONLY after they married and produced today's Humans with Noah's descendants. Gen 6:1-4 Prehistoric people INHERITED Adam's Human intelligence, and did NOT evolve from any Ape, as the False ToE wildly speculates. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

This is complete hogwash.

 

[Runewolf1973]

Dear Runewolf, Can you explain WHY every modern Human trait, which separates us from animals, only appeared some 10k years ago? Farming, math, city building, and writing began in the Valleys in the mountains of Ararat. For 99% of the time since prehistoric man diverged from Chimps, men lived as animals in Caves, and NEVER planted a crop nor even built himself a home or a tent. That's because prehistoric man did NOT have the Human intelligence which only Adam and God have. Gen 3:22

SUDDENLY, some 10k years ago, exactly where God told us in Gen 8:4 that the Ark arrived on our Earth, farming began, Gen 9:20 when Noah planted some grapes, so he could have some wine and get drunk, in typical Human fashion. I believe it's true evidence of the FIRST Human farming on our Planet. Do you have ANY evidence or are you going to ask me for something which today's Science has rejected as a Myth? I can't help the "willingly ignorant" Scoffers of the last Days. ll Peter 3:3-7 I can only tell you of God's Truth which agrees with Science and History in every way.

BTW, Here is the EMPIRICAL evidence of the SUDDEN arrival of Humans (the descendants of Adam) on this Planet of prehistoric people who were dumb as posts.

Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE

Since animals don't post, Aren't you glad you were made on another world and brought to this one in an Ark? Now, you know WHY the False ToE is nothing but an incomplete, totally inaccurate False Assumption, of men who have REJECTED God's Truth in Genesis. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

We are not separate from animals. We ARE animals. Why do you think we have tailbones, or an appendix, or get the hiccups? These are all evolutionary remnants of our distant past.


Here are some examples from Wikipedia:

Coccyx
The coccyx, or tailbone, is the remnant of a lost tail. All mammals have a tail at one point in their development; in humans, it is present for a period of 4 weeks, during stages 14 to 22 of human embryogenesis. This tail is most prominent in human embryos 31–35 days old. The tailbone, located at the end of the spine, has lost its original function in assisting balance and mobility, though it still serves some secondary functions, such as being an attachment point for muscles, which explains why it has not degraded further.

Appendix
In modern humans, the vermiform appendix is a vestige of an organ that in ancestral species had digestive functions, much as it still does in extant species in which intestinal flora hydrolyze cellulose and similar indigestible plant materials.

Wisdom teeth
Wisdom teeth are vestigial third molars that human ancestors used to help in grinding down plant tissue. The common postulation is that the skulls of human ancestors had larger jaws with more teeth, which were possibly used to help chew down foliage to compensate for a lack of ability to efficiently digest the cellulose that makes up a plant cell wall. As human diets changed, smaller jaws were naturally selected, yet the third molars, or "wisdom teeth," still commonly develop in human mouths. Currently, wisdom teeth have become useless and even harmful to the extent where surgical procedures are often performed to remove them.

Breasts
Extra nipples or breasts sometimes appear along the mammary lines of humans, appearing as a remnant to mammalian ancestors who possessed more than two nipples or breasts.

Tongue
Another intriguing example of human vestigiality occurs in the tongue, specifically the chondroglossus muscle. In a morphological study of 100 Japanese cadavers, it was found that 86% of fibers identified were solid and bundled in the appropriate way to facilitate speech and mastication. The other 14% of fibers were short, thin and sparse – nearly useless, and thus clearly of vestigial origin.


Human vestigiality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


This is clear evidence that humans evolved and it is MUCH stronger evidence than what you have been able to provide thus far. Note also that this evidence is readily observable in nature and through scientific methods. It is not simply scribble written down in some 1500 year old book and assumed to be true just because someone says so.



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[vskipper]

I think you two are opposite sides of the same coin. Both take radical positions claiming the other false. 1. Most science is visible & able to be reproduced to show the effect. 2. To claim that a book as vivid in description (not to mention extensive) is scribble is blindly ignorant. If there is one thing that can be learned from both history & archeology it is that MOST of the ancient holy scripts (Bible or otherwise) contain truth in them to one degree or another.

Truth is not found in terms of black & white but in the grey murkiness inbetween that most overlook.

 

[Runewolf1973]

I think you two are opposite sides of the same coin. Both take radical positions claiming the other false. 1. Most science is visible & able to be reproduced to show the effect. 2. To claim that a book as vivid in description (not to mention extensive) is scribble is blindly ignorant. If there is one thing that can be learned from both history & archeology it is that MOST of the ancient holy scripts (Bible or otherwise) contain truth in them to one degree or another.

Truth is not found in terms of black & white but in the grey murkiness inbetween that most overlook.

I agree, there is some truth to be found in everything. However, many people take their vague, metaphorical scribble way too literally.

 

[vskipper]

And on the opposite end of the spectrum some valiantly defend scientific theories that cannot be physically proven (yet). For instance Darwin himself said that he was unsure if evolution could be applied to humans. Now to flip it again. Throughout the Bible it is made clear that God is not man nor resembles man (God the father) so it would be impossible to make us in his image unless the author is telling us that unlike the rest of creation we have a soul, a conscious awareness that surpasses basic insticts.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I find the idea that the Anunnaki genetically engineered us as a slave species to mine gold to be more plausible than literal Biblical creationism.

 

[Delta-9]

I find the idea that the Annunaki genetically engineered us as a slave species to mine gold to be more plausible than literal Biblical creationism.

I agree.


@vskipper, Don't forget that Harry Potter has 'truth' in it too, London does exist! Doesn't mean that wizards are real, and likewise just because the Bible does contain archaeological truths doesn't mean that its god is any more credible.