I believe God loves gays and lesbians

[Starlight]

I think the phrase "God is love" is incoherent.

Do you mean to say that God is loving?

God is love itself.

God is love
Love is God

I believe God is spirit and uconditionally love

When humans love each other it is with divine love, because love is divine

 

[Starlight]

Bible tells God loves even His enemies:

but I say to you, Love your enemies; bless those cursing you, do well to those hating you; and pray for those abusing and persecuting you, so that you may become sons of your Father in Heaven. Because He causes the sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the just and unjust. For if you love those loving you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax-collectors do the same? And if you only greet your brothers, what exceptional thing do you do? Do not the tax-collectors do so? Therefore, you be perfect even as your Father in Heaven is perfect.
Matt. 5:44-48

It doesn't mean He accepts all wrong actions.

I agree that God do not accept wrong actions. Uconditional love not mean not consequences. Our actions do have consequences . But divine justice is part of God's love. If God was not just, then God is not love. To be loving you have to be just.

I do not believe God's love is conditional. I believe God is uconditionally love.

 

[Starlight]

I think they mean that god is a personification of love. But if they're applying that to the abrahamic perception/portrayal, then it's definitely incoherent.

Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God, and whoever loves has been born of God and knows God. Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love. 1 John 4:7-21

How priceless is your unfailing love, O God! People take refuge in the shadow of your wings. psalms 36:7

Help me, LORD my God; save me according to your unfailing love. Psalms 109:26

26 Give thanks to the God of heaven. His love endures forever. Psalms 136:26

 

[Starlight]

There aren't homosexuals. Only straights.

Wrong

 

[Starlight]

There’s no such thing as God. So God doesn’t love anyone.

How do you know that? You can only believe about God, not knowing.

Why do you believe God does not love anyone?

 

[Starlight]

Even murderers, kidnappers, blasphemers, rapist, antisemites, non Christians, atheists?
Why would He love someone that defies His will, or denies His existence, or persecutes those that worship Him?
Why would He love someone like homosexuals, that have perverted His creation, influenced others to do the same, especially when the majority of them are atheists also?

Your beliefs and comprehension are highly questionable.

God's word in the Bible:

“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven.
He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect. Matthew 5:43-48

God loves everyone.

 

[1213]

...To be loving you have to be just.

I do not believe God's love is conditional. I believe God is uconditionally love.

I agree that God loves unconditionally. I also think he is perfectly just.

 

[Nakosis]

I believe in God. Its called faith in God. I believe God is only love and goodness.

Its correct what you wrote. I can not prove God or disprove God

I see faith more as conviction.
Whereas someone my go about with the conviction of God's existence in their heart, me believing that it might rain tomorrow is not on the same level. So my belief allows for degrees of doubt. Faith tries to eliminate doubt. IMO.

 

[Father Heathen]

Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God, and whoever loves has been born of God and knows God. Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love. 1 John 4:7-21

How priceless is your unfailing love, O God! People take refuge in the shadow of your wings. psalms 36:7

Help me, LORD my God; save me according to your unfailing love. Psalms 109:26

26 Give thanks to the God of heaven. His love endures forever. Psalms 136:26

Now read the rest of the book and you'll see how inconsistent it is in that regard.

 

[The Hammer]

. To be loving you have to be just.

Absolutely not. Justice should be emotion free.

 

[DNB]

God's word in the Bible:

“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven.
He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect. Matthew 5:43-48

God loves everyone.

Then who is hell reserved for?

 

[Starlight]

Then who is hell reserved for?

So you do not believe in the Bible? what i wrote is from the Bible

“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven.
He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect. Matthew 5:43-48

By the way hell do exist. But I believe it is not eternal. And God loves the people in hell. God asked us humans to love our enemy. Because of that I am sure God loves us all.

 

[wellwisher]

If God loved everyone unconditionally, wouldn't that make that love largely meaningless?

Also, say God loved unconditionally, then why not kill and rape since God will support you and give you a big hug when you are done? The reason for conditional love is some behavior is more optimized, so love becomes a reward for being optimized for yourself and others.

As far as homosexual behavior, if we did not have modern medicine, but rather lived in ancient time, such behavior, especially for the gay males, would create disease, since aspects of the behavior are unsanitary and people did not know about germs nor did they have ways to deal with new disease. The wage of sin was death, was not so much an angry fire and brimstone warning, but a practical guideline. Some behavior, although humanly possible, comes with unexpected negative side affects; such as disease leading to death; AIDS.

If we had been back in the ancient times and the AIDS pandemic appeared, the death toll would have be a lot larger. Modern medicine allows use to cheat natural cause and affect. The ancients did not have that cheat, so they needed to create taboos to save lives. Some may not apply today, because of the cheats, but if we need a cheat, the behavior may not be exactly natural.

How could homosexually evolve from natural selection, when the behavior does not breed? It is not part of evolutionary theory, so it has to be connected to will and choice often at an unconscious level.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Even murderers, kidnappers, blasphemers, rapist, antisemites, non Christians, atheists?
Why would He love someone that defies His will, or denies His existence, or persecutes those that worship Him?
Why would He love someone like homosexuals, that have perverted His creation, influenced others to do the same, especially when the majority of them are atheists also?

Your beliefs and comprehension are highly questionable.

Attitudes like yours are a big reason why a lot of gay people are atheists and have nothing to do with religion. (Not all, mind you, but it is a thing.) You say we "pervert creation" but your odious beliefs kill God in the mind and hearts of many. Why would we want to be around people and part of a religion that has a bizarre and irrational hatred of us? That's part of the reason why I'm done with Christianity. Then of course you'll probably just blame it on us because we didn't believe enough, repent enough, pray enough, etc. We're abused and ostracized by self-righteous prats with boneyards in their closets, and then blamed when we get fed up with it and leave. Your petty little religion (or your interpretation of it) doesn't have a monopoly on the Supreme Being, and people are seeing that more and more.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

How could homosexually evolve from natural selection, when the behavior does not breed?

There's scientific research pointing to exclusive male homosexuality having biological foundations and tying it to order of birth. Gay men tend to have more older brothers.

Fraternal birth order and male sexual orientation - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[YmirGF]

I believe God is love.

And because of this I believe God loves all his creatures.


Any thoughts?

Comparing a deity to a single human emotion has never struck me as being particularly meaningful. As others have said, I think it is a lovely idea, it's just if a deity actually exists, I'm confident saying they would be a tiny bit more than a human emotion. This is anthropomorphization at its best, really.

 

[DNB]

So you do not believe in the Bible? what i wrote is from the Bible

“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven.
He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect. Matthew 5:43-48

By the way hell do exist. But I believe it is not eternal. And God loves the people in hell. God asked us humans to love our enemy. Because of that I am sure God loves us all.

So I guess you just don't understand the Bible, because what I stated was from the Bible?
On what grounds would God love the people in hell? They killed His saints and defamed His name, even claiming that God doesn't exist.
Why would god love those in hell? And if He loves them, why place them in hell with the devil.

Maybe you just don't understand the Bible in its entirety, or apply proper hermeneutics as in context.