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I can eat at Chick Fil a again now?

ron4711

Member
It's only a strategic retreat if you regroup and attack again.

That said, it turned out to be neither - just another insincere placation with no goal other than getting the boycott over with.

My bad, I had not read the latest news about them, where they are supporting marriage groups which oppose gay marriage. So my opinions of them have evolved from thinking they were wrong, to self serving to dishonest.
 

goatus17

Member
who would go to a straight pride parade?

if you are all so much for gay rights, then how about standing up for straights' ones too?
 

ron4711

Member
who would go to a straight pride parade?

if you are all so much for gay rights, then how about standing up for straights' ones too?

I am completely for straight rights. But no one is trying to take them away. How is giving someone else a right detrimental to my right.
 

Storm

ThrUU the Looking Glass
who would go to a straight pride parade?

if you are all so much for gay rights, then how about standing up for straights' ones too?
Straights aren't constantly shamed for being straight. What you propose would be equivalent to a KKK rally, and sane people know it.

As others have asked, what rights are being denied heterosexuals on the basis of their orientation?
 

Storm

ThrUU the Looking Glass
the rights of free speech and religious tolerance.
Wrong again. You can spew all the bile you want, you just have to deal with being a pariah when people think you're disgusting. That's social contract, not legal enforcement.

Religious tolerance doesn't let larger, more powerful sects bully smaller ones, like denying UUs the right to marry their gay members.

Furthermore, religious tolerance is not the province of legal rights. Neutrality is the government's proper role. Tolerance is up to individuals.
 

jasonwill2

Well-Known Member
who would boycott a business that opposed hetero marriage though?

No one is opposing straight marriage.

who would go to a straight pride parade?

if you are all so much for gay rights, then how about standing up for straights' ones too?

The right for straight people is not in question nor is anyone opposing it, the rights of gays and gay marriage is what is being oppressed.

the rights of free speech and religious tolerance.

I almost puked in my mouth I think. The right of free speech is not being oppressed here, the fact that people can boycott is also protected as a right.

Religious tolerence? This isn't about tolerating the founders religion, this is about that dispicable Christian, the founder of Chic Fil A, lobbying against a civil right. He is a bigot, a hypocrite, and for a lack of a better word, evil.

He even goes against what Jesus taught:

Would Jesus Discriminate? - Jesus affirmed a gay couple
 

Storm

ThrUU the Looking Glass
ChickFil is just standing up for traditional family values - what is so wrong with that?
How? By pretending to capitulate, then trying to sneak it in? If that's what the "family values" crowd is promoting, I'll pass, thanks.
 

jasonwill2

Well-Known Member
ChickFil is just standing up for traditional family values - what is so wrong with that?

No they are not! Straight "traditional" marriage is not under threat by homosexual marriage. They are oppressing homosexuals by lobbying against their CIVIL AND SECULAR RIGHTS. Why should the beliefs of some Christians affect the laws of a secular government? There is a reason our founding fathers wanted the Church and government to remain separate.

Is discrimination a "traditional family value"? I think it's hate. Didn't Jesus warn about wolves in sheep's clothing? I'm not a Christian but I think the idea is universal enough to apply here.
 

goatus17

Member
Homosexuals should not have the right to marry because they cannot produce children together.

It's a fairly obvious concept.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Homosexuals should not have the right to marry because they cannot produce children together.
It's a fairly obvious concept.
Oh, you provocateur, you!
I favor gay marriage cuz I don't think they should get off Scot free.
They've had an unfair advantage too long. Make'm adopt kids too!

Btw, that sure is a bright & shiney avatar you have there, fella!
 

goatus17

Member
Not needed.

Man and woman together symbolise natural parents, whether they procreate or not.

Therfore, a legal hetero marriage is always possible.
 
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