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I can see "why" its hard to learn English

ecco

Veteran Member
English has so many nonsensical words:
What does that have to do with the title of your thread?
I can see "why" its hard to learn English

I learned English the way all people learn their native language, by hearing it from birth and speaking it sometime thereafter. I learned German the same way at the same time.
Most Americans can get through their entire lives and never use the nonsensical words in your list.

The words in @Evangelicalhumanist's little story are what can make English hard to learn and use.

Of course, we also have a lot of usages that even many native American speakers get wrong...

It's "it's" when you are trying to contract "it is" (as in your thread title). "Its" is possessive as in "The flower lost its scent".


You're going to correct your title, aren't you?

That was not a real question. That was just me showing another example of words that many people misuse (your - possessive; you're - contraction for you are).

And then there is me, myself and I. People seem to hate me. They use I because they think it makes them sound more intellectual. These same people also don't see how pompous myself often is.

In the above, I should have used quotes for clarification, but it was more fun without the quotes.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
What does that have to do with the title of your thread?
I can see "why" its hard to learn English

I learned English the way all people learn their native language, by hearing it from birth and speaking it sometime thereafter. I learned German the same way at the same time.
Most Americans can get through their entire lives and never use the nonsensical words in your list.

The words in @Evangelicalhumanist's little story are what can make English hard to learn and use.

Of course, we also have a lot of usages that even many native American speakers get wrong...

It's "it's" when you are trying to contract "it is" (as in your thread title). "Its" is possessive as in "The flower lost its scent".


You're going to correct your title, aren't you?

That was not a real question. That was just me showing another example of words that many people misuse (your - possessive; you're - contraction for you are).

And then there is me, myself and I. People seem to hate me. They use I because they think it makes them sound more intellectual. These same people also don't see how pompous myself often is.

In the above, I should have used quotes for clarification, but it was more fun without the quotes.

Hint. Look at where the thread is located,context, and other people's replies.... You'll get a sense of how the convo is going without seriousness involved. Those who aren't interested need not reply.

It's not that serious. Drop it.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Ok, so I am thought of a sentence to put some of these words together.

I’m a frugal Fanny driving a jalopy lollygagging through the neighborhood listening to poppy cock on the radio.

Not sure you meant fanny in british english.
 

Sirona

Hindu Wannabe
I was very miserable when for the Cambridge Certificate of Proficiency in English I had to interpret Jabberwocky, figuring out which words did exist and which didn't. Without the internet, of course. :flushed:
 

SA Huguenot

Well-Known Member
Goo gracias!
English is my 3rd language, and I find it to be very difficuilt, but incredibly creative, and can describe things on a high level of observational descriptions.
I think one needs to live in an English speaking country to learn the language well.

Where I live, no one is a master of the English language, except people who grew up with it as their mother tounge.

I personally only learned English in school, and had a difficuilt time in getting it right.
My language, Afrikaans does not have is, am, and are. We have a double negative in the sentence, and our past, present and future uses the same verbs, but with a prefix or word connected to the tenses.
Why the heck does one have to have all those grammer rules in English?
Even them counting is wrong.
Thirteen fourteen, fifteen, but twenty three, twenty four etc...
No consistancy as in Afrikaans.

But, English is a very nice language. even for the worst of users such as I.
Just think if the British must speak Russian.
Then they will be just as clumsy as I am in English.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Goo gracias!
English is my 3rd language, and I find it to be very difficuilt, but incredibly creative, and can describe things on a high level of observational descriptions.
I think one needs to live in an English speaking country to learn the language well.

Where I live, no one is a master of the English language, except people who grew up with it as their mother tounge.

I personally only learned English in school, and had a difficuilt time in getting it right.
My language, Afrikaans does not have is, am, and are. We have a double negative in the sentence, and our past, present and future uses the same verbs, but with a prefix or word connected to the tenses.
Why the heck does one have to have all those grammer rules in English?
Even them counting is wrong.
Thirteen fourteen, fifteen, but twenty three, twenty four etc...
No consistancy as in Afrikaans.

But, English is a very nice language. even for the worst of users such as I.
Just think if the British must speak Russian.
Then they will be just as clumsy as I am in English.

Interesting. We had a couple that worked here from Ghana and they tried teaching me some of the words in their language. My pronunciation was so horrible I gave up. I'm better with spanish dialects, but don't speak it fluently. French, Asian (East and West), and Afrikaan are hard.

No to be words and double negative?? Hm. Could you give an example (I know language doesn't translate 100%)
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
One of my old favourite things -- try reading this aloud without studying it first. Then ask a non-English speaker to try it. Hilarious.

I take it you already know
Of tough and bough and cough and dough
Others may stumble, but not you
On hiccough, thorough, laugh, and through.
And cork and work and card and ward
And font and front and word and sword
Well done! And now if you wish, perhaps
To learn of less familiar traps,
Beware of heard, a dreadful word
That looks like beard and sounds like bird.
And dead: it’s said like bed, not bead–
For goodness sakes don’t call it deed.
Watch out for meat and great and threat,
They rhyme with suite and straight and debt.
A moth is not a moth in mother,
Nor both in bother, broth in brother.
And here is not a match for there,
And dear and fear for bear and pear.
And then there’s dose and rose and lose–
Just look them up–and goose and choose,
And do and go, then thwart and cart.
Come, come, I’ve hardly made a start!
A dreadful language? Man alive!
I’d mastered it when I was five.

I've been speaking English all my life, but to be honest, that was kind of tough to get through.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
We may have pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis but we don't have Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz. Also, bra is so much easier than bustenhalter if not quite as descriptive.
Hint. Look at where the thread is located,context, and other people's replies.... You'll get a sense of how the convo is going without seriousness involved. Those who aren't interested need not reply.

It's not that serious. Drop it.



In addition to having a problem coping with American English, you also apparently have a problem understanding Ameican English humor.
 

SA Huguenot

Well-Known Member
Interesting. We had a couple that worked here from Ghana and they tried teaching me some of the words in their language. My pronunciation was so horrible I gave up. I'm better with spanish dialects, but don't speak it fluently. French, Asian (East and West), and Afrikaan are hard.

No to be words and double negative?? Hm. Could you give an example (I know language doesn't translate 100%)
English
The Boy plays / the Boys play
Afrikaans
The Boy play, the boys play (no added "s"

English,
I am sick
He / she / it is sick
You / They / We are sick
Afrikaans
I / you / he / she / it / we / and they is sick.

English
I did not go to work.
Afrikaans
I did not go to work not.

English
thirteen fourteen ...
Afrikaans
teenthree, teen four...

I understand from people who learn languages that Afrikaans is the most easiest in the world.
due to the fact that the vocabulary is not very large.
It is a new language which dates from the mid 19th century, and only had the first Bibles printed in 1933.

I met a couple (from Michigan) in Muizenberg Cape town 2 years ago, when I took a vacation (they too), and we struck a conversation in an antique shop.
The man told me he is learning Afrikaans because of his work as a historian.
He spoke Afrikaans very poorly, but it was very easy to communicate. We had some fun.

I told him to tell his wife that it is a great thing for her spiritual life that he can speak Afrikaans...
He smiled and told his wife what I said.
She wanted to know why I say that?
I told him to tell her that one day when she goes to heaven, he will translate to her what everyone says!
After bursting out in laughter, he told her, and you should have seen the laughter in their eyes.
Priceless.

I then saw that she was not so comfortable with the idea that there might be a place such as heaven, with one of her replies, but her husband enjoyed the conversation when I asked her another question.
I asked: Mam, do you know who was the first two people on the earth?
She wanted to lecture me on Homo sapiens ect... when I interrupted and said, no, I mean in the Biblical concept!
She did not like it and replied:
I dont believe in the Bible, but I assume you refer to Adam and Eve.

Whereupon I said,
No mam, they were immigrants, the first man and woman was Jan and Maria van Riebeeck! (the first governor of the Cape of Good hope in 1659 who settled the first colony in the cape)
Her husband cracked himself, and she enjoyed the funny stuff.
Needless to say, the 4 of us went for a drink.

Oh, and she hated Trump, and I realy made fun of Hillary.
Her husband just love to fuel the jabs, and we left liking each other for who we are.

Anyhow, learn Afrikaans so you can understand Peter at the pearly gates guys!
 
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