I declare what "I am"

[PhileoTruth]

I am a sinful human being in need of the forgiveness of God through the sacrifice of Christ Jesus. I am without eternal hope apart from the grace of God. I am without control over my life or eternal destiny except that God extended His grace toward me to save me. I am now reconciled to God through faith in Christ. I am now indwelt by the Holy Spirit as a "downpayment" of God's promise to redeem me. I am endowed with the hope of resurrection unto an incorruptible body and everlasting fellowship with God because Christ Jesus first rose from the dead. I am eternally reconciled to holy God and declared righteous by Him all because of the finished work of Christ Jesus. Can you declare the same?

 

[gnomon]

Has it already come to this? In so short a time?

Seriously, this is a religious education forum. There are other forums on the web for fellowship and the streets outside for proselytizing.

 

[Man of Faith]

:clap Yes I can. I wonder when we get to heaven will we remember our religiousforums handles?

 

[Wannabe Yogi]

I am a sinful human being

My favorite quote from Martin Luther.

Man is a dung heap covered in snow.

I cant say I look at human nature in the same way.

 

[Skwim]

I am a sinful human being in need of the forgiveness of God through the sacrifice of Christ Jesus. I am without eternal hope apart from the grace of God. I am without control over my life or eternal destiny except that God extended His grace toward me to save me. I am now reconciled to God through faith in Christ. I am now indwelt by the Holy Spirit as a "downpayment" of God's promise to redeem me. I am endowed with the hope of resurrection unto an incorruptible body and everlasting fellowship with God because Christ Jesus first rose from the dead. I am eternally reconciled to holy God and declared righteous by Him all because of the finished work of Christ Jesus. Can you declare the same?

And we should care because . . . . . . . . . . . ?

 

[T-Dawg]

I am a sinful human being in need of the forgiveness of God through the sacrifice of Christ Jesus. I am without eternal hope apart from the grace of God. I am without control over my life or eternal destiny except that God extended His grace toward me to save me. I am now reconciled to God through faith in Christ. I am now indwelt by the Holy Spirit as a "downpayment" of God's promise to redeem me. I am endowed with the hope of resurrection unto an incorruptible body and everlasting fellowship with God because Christ Jesus first rose from the dead. I am eternally reconciled to holy God and declared righteous by Him all because of the finished work of Christ Jesus. Can you declare the same?

I'm sorry you feel this way.

I'm happy to say for myself that I declared the exact opposite about a year ago.
I'll put it in a similar format to yours now:
I am a rational human being (usually) in need of freedom of though through my gift through the evolution of the human race. I do not need eternal life, especially not through the mercy of a deity I consider to be a tyrant. I have control over my life and lifelong destiny, for I have rejected the authoritarian rule of God and his attempts to "save" me through enslavement. I am now reconciled in my ideology and intellect; without the Bible, there is no conflict between my beliefs and my thoughts. I am free of the "Holy Spirit," whom I consider to be a demon, and have no debt to a divine being because I worship no such being. I am free from worry over the issue of eternal life, for there is no afterlife that we can possibly know about. I have severed myself from a celestial tyrant and have rejected the death of his son as a just means of "forgiveness" which humans do not even need. Will you declare the same?


(But in all serious, the OP is offensive. Although admittedly, it's funny enough that I would let it slide if I were a mod, just so others could laugh at the blatant proselytization).

 

[Kilgore Trout]

I am a sinful human being in need of the forgiveness of God through the sacrifice of Christ Jesus. I am without eternal hope apart from the grace of God. I am without control over my life or eternal destiny except that God extended His grace toward me to save me. I am now reconciled to God through faith in Christ. I am now indwelt by the Holy Spirit as a "downpayment" of God's promise to redeem me. I am endowed with the hope of resurrection unto an incorruptible body and everlasting fellowship with God because Christ Jesus first rose from the dead. I am eternally reconciled to holy God and declared righteous by Him all because of the finished work of Christ Jesus. Can you declare the same?

Glad I'm not burdened with such debilitating psychological issues, but I hope some day you'll be able to address them, and eventually, overcome them, so that you may live a full and happy life.

 

[enchanted_one1975]

Can you declare the same?

Declare? I renounced such beliefs some time ago.

 

[Penumbra]

I am a sinful human being in need of the forgiveness of God through the sacrifice of Christ Jesus. I am without eternal hope apart from the grace of God. I am without control over my life or eternal destiny except that God extended His grace toward me to save me. I am now reconciled to God through faith in Christ. I am now indwelt by the Holy Spirit as a "downpayment" of God's promise to redeem me. I am endowed with the hope of resurrection unto an incorruptible body and everlasting fellowship with God because Christ Jesus first rose from the dead. I am eternally reconciled to holy God and declared righteous by Him all because of the finished work of Christ Jesus. Can you declare the same?

Welcome to the forums.

No, I don't declare any of that, nor do I find it truthful or healthy.

 

[Madhuri]

I am a sinful human being in need of the forgiveness of God through the sacrifice of Christ Jesus. I am without eternal hope apart from the grace of God. I am without control over my life or eternal destiny except that God extended His grace toward me to save me. I am now reconciled to God through faith in Christ. I am now indwelt by the Holy Spirit as a "downpayment" of God's promise to redeem me. I am endowed with the hope of resurrection unto an incorruptible body and everlasting fellowship with God because Christ Jesus first rose from the dead. I am eternally reconciled to holy God and declared righteous by Him all because of the finished work of Christ Jesus. Can you declare the same?

Representing man's need to be self-indulgent?
All 'I's bolded by me.

 

[ellenjanuary]

I declare that despite the OP, there ain't nothing wrong with the Holy Spirit.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Can you declare the same?

There is no reason to declare anything in way of your challenge. Declaring in the style and manner of your statement demonstrates only a personal attempt to validate to others a single perspective consisting of information not actually shared mutually by everyone, which of course suggests significant flaws by the way there is no overall consensus arrived upon on what your putting forth.

In general, I much prefer to stay with whats distinct and straightforward whenever possible, and avoid such distractions.

Forums notwithstanding mind you as I like to dive off the deep end occasionally as well, and see if I hit my head on a rock. Same as you?

 

[Looncall]

I am a sinful human being in need of the forgiveness of God through the sacrifice of Christ Jesus. I am without eternal hope apart from the grace of God. I am without control over my life or eternal destiny except that God extended His grace toward me to save me. I am now reconciled to God through faith in Christ. I am now indwelt by the Holy Spirit as a "downpayment" of God's promise to redeem me. I am endowed with the hope of resurrection unto an incorruptible body and everlasting fellowship with God because Christ Jesus first rose from the dead. I am eternally reconciled to holy God and declared righteous by Him all because of the finished work of Christ Jesus. Can you declare the same?

You have been conned. You need to remove yourself from whatever criminal it was who taught you this disgusting drivel.

Wake up and live in the real world!

 

[Twig pentagram]

I am a sinful human being in need of the forgiveness of God through the sacrifice of Christ Jesus. I am without eternal hope apart from the grace of God. I am without control over my life or eternal destiny except that God extended His grace toward me to save me. I am now reconciled to God through faith in Christ. I am now indwelt by the Holy Spirit as a "downpayment" of God's promise to redeem me. I am endowed with the hope of resurrection unto an incorruptible body and everlasting fellowship with God because Christ Jesus first rose from the dead. I am eternally reconciled to holy God and declared righteous by Him all because of the finished work of Christ Jesus. Can you declare the same?

I could but I think would be lying.

 

[PhileoTruth]

And we should care because . . . . . . . . . . . ?

@ Skwim,

You should care because if you can not say the same then you are abiding under the condemnation of God. The emphasis of my post is not so much about me but about God’s provision of Christ Jesus for the sin of humanity and I am a beneficiary of it. I invite you who read this to partake of the same gracious salvation that God has availed to humanity through faith in Christ Jesus. The promise of eternal life is given through God’s bestowal of the Holy Spirit. If you are not a partaker of these gracious gifts of God, then you should be very concerned about your eternal state.

Thank you for asking. Thank you for your comment.

PT

 

[PhileoTruth]

I'm sorry you feel this way.

I'm happy to say for myself that I declared the exact opposite about a year ago.
I'll put it in a similar format to yours now:
I am a rational human being (usually) in need of freedom of though through my gift through the evolution of the human race. I do not need eternal life, especially not through the mercy of a deity I consider to be a tyrant. I have control over my life and lifelong destiny, for I have rejected the authoritarian rule of God and his attempts to "save" me through enslavement. I am now reconciled in my ideology and intellect; without the Bible, there is no conflict between my beliefs and my thoughts. I am free of the "Holy Spirit," whom I consider to be a demon, and have no debt to a divine being because I worship no such being. I am free from worry over the issue of eternal life, for there is no afterlife that we can possibly know about. I have severed myself from a celestial tyrant and have rejected the death of his son as a just means of "forgiveness" which humans do not even need. Will you declare the same?


(But in all serious, the OP is offensive. Although admittedly, it's funny enough that I would let it slide if I were a mod, just so others could laugh at the blatant proselytization).

@ T-Dawg,

If I proselytize anyone it is to follow Christ Jesus and not myself. I can not save anyone and do not profess to. I point you to the One who is able and the One who does save the souls of sinful men.

Christianity is not a religion to which one subscribes, but the religion that recognizes the true and living God and His Son, Jesus, who entered into human history to atone for the sin of humanity. Christianity is either historically true about God’s involvement in human history or else it is merely another religion. I am not asking you to subscribe to my “religion” per se, but to believe in the Christ who entered into human history to reconcile humanity to the true and living God.

As you have stated that you have declared the opposite on the basis of being a “rational human being,” you fail to realize that your “rationality” has reasoned you against faith in the God who exists and has all authority over His creation. Your reasoning has mislead you into a delusion of controlling your life and lifelong destiny. For if you indeed had the control that you have convinced yourself of, then you would be “God” and not the deity to whom I refer.
Moreover, as to His “tyranny,” you are servant to many persons in this life (governments, employers, elders in your family, etc.). The “authoritarian” rule that He claims is indeed absolute and it stems from the fact that He created and owns all creation, including you. Denial of these facts does not negate them. You are free to reason yourself into unbelief, but when the reality of His existence and the day of your judgment becomes your present circumstance (i.e., upon death), then you will find that your willful rejection of Him will not exonerate you from your due penalty. Just as in human courts of law, pleading ignorance of the law does not absolve you of guilt and penalty, neither does the refusal and dismissal of His absolute authority and triune existence (yes, as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) absolve you from your moral obligation to acknowledge Him as God and humble yourself in obedience to Him.

I do not propose that the obedience be totally out of fear of His judgment—I do also propose that that acknowledgement and obedience be in response to His gracious provision of Christ Jesus as the mediator and reconciler of humanity to Himself. Christ’s sacrifice on the cross was an expression of God’s love for humanity and His hatred of sin. Christ, the just, died for unjust humanity. Historically and eternally true. But only those who believe in Him become beneficiaries of His atonement.

You are free to refuse me as a messenger, but the Sender will hold you accountable for being informed and refusing the one provision that He has made to be reconciled to Himself. You are hereby cautioned of the eternal consequences of your “rational” decision.

Thank you for your comments. Feel free to reply.

PT

 

[PhileoTruth]

Glad I'm not burdened with such debilitating psychological issues, but I hope some day you'll be able to address them, and eventually, overcome them, so that you may live a full and happy life.

@ Kilgore Trout,

How blind you are to how wretched you also are! Fullness of life (and then life eternal) is only through faith in Christ. Whatever fleeting pleasures of sin you may be indulging will ultimately have a judgment day in which you will be found guilty and subject to penalty. Recognizing my own sinfulness in the sight of God is not a psychological issue, but your delusion (about your presumed lack of sinfulness) is.


I call you who reads this to follow Christ Jesus and not myself. I can not save anyone and do not profess to. I point you to the One who is able and the One who does save the souls of sinful men.

PT

 

[PhileoTruth]

@ Madhuri,

There is no self indulgence at all. Rather, I recognize that I am wretched and sinful and that I need Christ Jesus’ righteousness to reconcile me to God. The focus is upon His perfection and His righteousness, I merely testify of Him.

Thank you for the quote-- for before I have seen the quote, I have often said that the opposite of love is not hate, but indifference.

PT

 

[PhileoTruth]

There is no reason to declare anything in way of your challenge. Declaring in the style and manner of your statement demonstrates only a personal attempt to validate to others a single perspective consisting of information not actually shared mutually by everyone, which of course suggests significant flaws by the way there is no overall consensus arrived upon on what your putting forth.

In general, I much prefer to stay with whats distinct and straightforward whenever possible, and avoid such distractions.

Forums notwithstanding mind you as I like to dive off the deep end occasionally as well, and see if I hit my head on a rock. Same as you?

@ Nowhere Man,

I’m not sure that I understand all of what you are saying, but clearly not everyone holds to my belief. My post is indeed an invitation into faith in the true and living God through Christ. Through discussion, I could offer numerous reasons why I profess the only true God and why Christ is the only way. I do invite others who do not share my beliefs to reconsider.

My point is best summed: Christ is the Savior. Follow him.

PT

 

[Dan4reason]

I am a sinful human being in need of the forgiveness of God through the sacrifice of Christ Jesus. I am without eternal hope apart from the grace of God. I am without control over my life or eternal destiny except that God extended His grace toward me to save me. I am now reconciled to God through faith in Christ. I am now indwelt by the Holy Spirit as a "downpayment" of God's promise to redeem me. I am endowed with the hope of resurrection unto an incorruptible body and everlasting fellowship with God because Christ Jesus first rose from the dead. I am eternally reconciled to holy God and declared righteous by Him all because of the finished work of Christ Jesus. Can you declare the same?

Ummm... what are you trying to argue? Well, I will try to debate this "topic."

Why do we need forgiveness for our sins from a person we have never sinned against? Why do we have to answer to him for every little aspect of our lives? Doesn't that sound like a 1984 scenario? Why are you so bad because you are imperfect? If you are more good than bad and try to be better than you are now, you are fine by me! Cheer up man!

How does believing in God and thinking he is right about everything make you not deserve to pay for your sins? If you believe I exist and I am always right, I will still punish you if you do something wrong (if I had authority over you).

How does Jesus' death give you salvation? If you really are horrible because you are sinful how does the death of an innocent scapegoat make your crimes any forgivable? Why are you eternally reconciled? What if you do something horrible in the after-life?

What evidence do you have to support all this is really true? I am asking so many questions because I don't know what you are arguing.