i died, what next?

[yourhopeboundheart]

i guess i had never given much thought to the fact that atheism has little to nothing to do with belief in the aferlife(s). so some of you may not believe in any gods, but may still have a different opinion than i do.

anybody have a godless afterlife model that they would care to propose and discuss?

 

[Runewolf1973]

I for one do not believe in any god(s), but I do know there is an afterlife. I do not believe this afterlife to be something supernatural either, it is just a natural process in the transformation of energy. You know the old "energy can neither be created, nor destroyed, it only changes form". I believe that everything is life, so death is just a transformational state between life. I am an atheist when it comes to gods, but when it comes to the afterlife, I do believe in that. I just don't believe it is as supernatural as we might think. I guess you could say I am a shamanic atheist. Whatever the case, I do not believe in divine supernatural beings or entities. Everything that exists is natural to exist, humans just don't always know or understand all of what nature has to offer.

 

[MSizer]

I wish I had something special to say, but I believe we rot just like apples. Sad, maybe, but true I think. If an apple has no soul, I don't see what makes us special.

 

[Morse]

Conjecturing about the afterlife is pointless. There is no possible way to really examine what happens to a person after he dies (except what happens to a cadaver) and thus speculation about the afterlife is the equivalent of asking why a higher power created the universe. You can toss ideas out there, but none should be taken seriously.

 

[Runewolf1973]

There is nothing special about life apart from the rest of the universe. So why is it so hard for scientists to grasp the fact that we are all the same, composed of the same vibrational energy and atoms? They already know this don't they?... But then they go and categorize life to make it seem like it is something different, something special, separate, or "mysterious". Life did not just mysteriously appear on earth some billions of years ago. Everything has the force of life. Not everything experiences life the way we do, but everything is animate and is vibrational. To call even a rock an inanimate object is false. As humans perceive a rock, it is just an unmoving, non-living piece of earth, but in all actuality, that so-called "inanimate" object is very much full of vibrational energy, the same energy that is Life. Life does not simply cease to exist after this transformational state (illusion) we call death.

 

[yourhopeboundheart]

There is no possible way to really examine what happens to a person after he dies.

i dont think that is entirely true. sure, we are currently in a state that hypothesis can be only tested in limited ways but if testing a hypothesis at all is possible then this would lead me to believe that with time and critical analysis we can find more and more complex ways to test them. making a claim to know about your personal afterlife is of course limited in that we have no idea what will happen when we die. but we have such a stronger understanding of the brain now and we can make certain observations about brain chemistry in dying animals and humans, that a general idea of the reaction our brains have to death is not completely out of reach.

i'm, of course, not saying that this leads us to a conclusive idea of what happens after we die, or that the evidence doesnt lean in the direction of us just shutting down entirely. but to not ask the question would be unfair to our future scientific selves.

i personally, of course, subscribe to a combination of the rotting apples scenario with the everything-is-life idea that was proposed. it's obvious to me that the form in which our genetics take shape and is animated for a short period of time with a certain electricity that keeps much of its nutrients and particles in a rigid structure are not the point. the genetics themselves are calling the shots and 'living' through each and every form. and no matter what tricks we learn to try and stay in this particular shape (even the trick of sentience or conciousness) before disintegrating and being eaten by other forms of genetic vehicles, we will be fuel for a next generation of genetic vehicles with probably even more clever tricks. this perpetuation of food to building bodies to being turned into food is the best thing i could imagine happening after life, and the pride i have in it far outweighs any pull for heaven or reincarnation.

 

[Rogue Cardinal]

i guess i had never given much thought to the fact that atheism has little to nothing to do with belief in the aferlife(s). so some of you may not believe in any gods, but may still have a different opinion than i do.

anybody have a godless afterlife model that they would care to propose and discuss?

My idea is very simple.

you die. They bury you or burn you. If they bury you....eventually the worms get in and eat whats left of your rotting carcass. Then the worms poop. The poop makes fertilizer for the plants....and you give back to the earth.....or as I tell my kids....you become a flower! hehehehe

IF they burn you....well...you just get thrown about somewhere. Hopefully not flushed down a commode! And that's it.

 

[whereismynotecard]

Maybe you can become a nice home for worms... But these days they put your coffin in a vault and the worms cannot even get in... *******. You're dead anyway... They might as well let some worms get some use out of your rotting corpse. I do not want to be buried in a vault when I die. I want to be laid out in the forest and let my body be a worm house. I better write a will...

 

[Rogue Cardinal]

Maybe you can become a nice home for worms... But these days they put your coffin in a vault and the worms cannot even get in... *******. You're dead anyway... They might as well let some worms get some use out of your rotting corpse. I do not want to be buried in a vault when I die. I want to be laid out in the forest and let my body be a worm house. I better write a will...

HAHAHAA to the crematorium for me! Why waste the money on a vault? Why pickle me with anything? Take the parts you need and burn the rest.

 

[whereismynotecard]

HAHAHAA to the crematorium for me! Why waste the money on a vault? Why pickle me with anything? Take the parts you need and burn the rest.

I want to be donated to worm charity. To feed and house the hungry worms of the forest. But I'll call the charity "The Hannah's Body for the Strength and Sustinence of Needy Wyrms Charity" because I like to spell wyrms that way. Kind of like how I spell egscited and secks.

 

[Rogue Cardinal]

I want to be donated to worm charity. To feed and house the hungry worms of the forest. But I'll call the charity "The Hannah's Body for the Strength and Sustinence of Needy Wyrms Charity" because I like to spell wyrms that way. Kind of like how I spell egscited and secks.

Yeah I can donate money to that. I'll make sure wyrms from Ethopia get in on the action. I here for a donation of a scant cup of non-Starbucks coffee I can feed a million wyrms for like a whole month!

 

[whereismynotecard]

Yeah I can donate money to that. I'll make sure wyrms from Ethopia get in on the action. I here for a donation of a scant cup of non-Starbucks coffee I can feed a million wyrms for like a whole month!

a million? For a whole month? I don't know about that...

 

[Rogue Cardinal]

a million? For a whole month? I don't know about that...

It's a fact. There is literature on it and everything. Like the bible....once it's written it is fact!

What's a cup of average joe go for? Buck fiddy? For a buck fiddy I can feed one million wyrms for a whole month. So imagine the time your dead butt could have if I donated like $100!!! That's a lot o' worms eatin. I may have to clone you though...make you last longer.

 

[Venatoris]

Personally I want it to be a surprise.

I don't think about an afterlife often because then I have to ask myself what I would do for eternity if one does exist. I think even heaven would get boring after a few thousand years. If death is the end of my existence I'm cool with that.

If I were to venture a guess about what really happens when you die I would have to say some kind of reincarnation. If energy can't be created or destroyed then the energy that makes us what we are must either reform in another body or just float around in another state. I've told this theory to people before and someone always asks if I believe in past lives. No, I don't believe that you are reborn in another body with memories and personality traits intact (like some people do) but as a combination of energy from different people creating a new entity entirely.

I don't know why people spend so much of their time worrying about an afterlife. It seems like a great number of people turn to religion when someone around them dies because they think if they don't believe in it they don't get to go. One thing I do know about death is that if god does exist he certainly wouldn't deny access to a good person for disbelief.

 

[whereismynotecard]

It's a fact. There is literature on it and everything. Like the bible....once it's written it is fact!

What's a cup of average joe go for? Buck fiddy? For a buck fiddy I can feed one million wyrms for a whole month. So imagine the time your dead butt could have if I donated like $100!!! That's a lot o' worms eatin. I may have to clone you though...make you last longer.

Will my clone also be dead? Or will she have to be sacrificed?

 

[rojse]

You exist only as the memories that your acquaintances hold of you.

 

[DavyCrocket2003]

I know I don't really belong here but it's such an interesting topic. Can you imagine, if we have consciousness after death, how weird it will be? I mean after having been alive your whole life, won't it be totally crazy to be dead? Like "What the heck? I'm dead? No way! That's crazy!" lol. I can't wait!

 

[Twilight Hue]

i guess i had never given much thought to the fact that atheism has little to nothing to do with belief in the afterlife(s). so some of you may not believe in any gods, but may still have a different opinion than i do.

anybody have a godless afterlife model that they would care to propose and discuss?

Well. I gave it some thought and reasoned that since before I was even conceived, that particular state, for all intents and purposes arguably is the exact same thing as death and yet....In spite of being in such a state......regardless of how its viewed......I was nevertheless born and thus....Here I am! Ta DA!:hapbirth:

In that light, both states of death and preconception when compared, is actually identical and undifferentiated.
So welcome to the afterlife!

I figured that since life undoubtedly has occurred it at the very most proves, or at the very least, suggests that the state (of death) is not truly an infinite one and that it is quite possible to "escape" death, provided said conditions are right so as to permit it.

In a nutshell since this phenomena called life has unquestionably happened, there simply is no reason it cannot happen again. It might just take a verrry looong time though. The only thing that truly dies forever with no hope of any afterlife IMO is that of the ego mind, which identifies and calls itself "I" and calls others "them".

As far as my experience goes, there has been no re-collection whatsoever of any encounters of God(s) in memory so the point becomes quite mute here. For me anyway.

 

[yourhopeboundheart]

to the crematorium for me! Why waste the money on a vault?

i've always thought that: my body + cremation + salt shaker = loads of laughs for all my surviving relatives.

 

[MSizer]

I used to want to be fed to dogs because it's a blast to watch dogs devour flesh, but I've learned that it pi$$es off too many people to say that, so I've stopped saying it (even though it is actually true). Then it occured to me that I really have no concern at all what happens, as "I" won't really exist except as a lump of lifeless rotting flesh, so hey, as far as my body goes, do whatever you like (whoever is there). Feed animals, abuse it for you sexual gratification if that's your thing, whatever happens to my body is completely meaningless to me.