.lava
Veteran Member
yes madness thanks to ignorance of men. if a father is able to kick his daughter out on the streets, that only proves he is uneducated and blinded by ignorance. this is very disturbing.
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I don't know if I can call myself a Christian after reading this.
- Thread starter Little Joe Gould
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yes madness thanks to ignorance of men. if a father is able to kick his daughter out on the streets, that only proves he is uneducated and blinded by ignorance. this is very disturbing.
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keithnurse
Active Member
What I'm noticing is the wide reporting of this disgusting Christian witch hunt but very few know of the equally disgusting Islamic witch hunt going on in Gambia. Check this out: http://muslimsagainstcharia.blogspot.com/2009/05/islamic-inquisition-witch-hunt-in.html
keithnurse
Active Member
The link should be http:muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/2009/05/islamic-inquisition-witch-hunt-in.html
themadhair
Well-Known Member
Working link - Muslims Against Sharia Blog
That's an ancient Biblical definition of a CHURCH or CONGREGATION. Those words are not quite the same as a religion, although they can be the start.
My definition of religion is based on a broader view of the world which the ancients did not have.
Who said I wanted to be Jewish? I have no intention of converting.
Why don't we take a look at the JPS commentary on that verse.
"Sorceress, a practitioner of malevolent magic (usually a woman but males are banned in Deut. 18.10), which is punished severely because it was deemed dangerous and antisocial. The Bible does not deny the efficacy of magic, but bans it as rebellion against God. (Deut. 18.9-15)" ("The Jewish Study Bible")
Also, Judaism is but ONE of MANY religions. As is Christianity. Or Islam. Or Vedanta. Or Buddhism. Or Taoism. Or Baha'i. Or Sikhism. Or many, many others that I don't know about.
May I suggest you pick up a study Bible so you can read it with some help? Some good ones are:
"The Jewish Study Bible" from the Jewish Publication Society (JPS)
"Commentary on the Torah" by Richard Elliot Friedman
"The Five Books of Moses- Translation and Commentary" by Robert Alter
These commentaries are based on scholarly research and, from what I can tell, do not have any bias. I'm not even sure if Friedman or Alter are Jewish.
Little Joe Gould
Seeking God
I did a little bit of thinking about this, and I'm still going to consider myself a Christian and am going to make an attempt to spread more awareness about this absurd behavior. A conclusion I have came to is that religion is very similar to technology in the respect that they are both double edged swords. Technology in the hands of the righteous produces righteousness; such as modern medicine, global communications, and advanced transportation. But in the hands of the unrighteous it produces things like nuclear weapons and bio-terrorism. Religion, as well, in the hands of the righteous will produce righteousness; it can produce things like homeless shelters, food pantries, free counseling, and fine, upstanding citizens. But this is definitely a case of religion being held in the hands of the unrighteous, which in this case produces nothing short of evil.
The Neo Nerd
Well-Known Member
Little Joe Gould
Seeking God
No offense, but it seems your understanding of what modern Christianity should be is relatively immature. The Old Testament was a different time period, it was when the Jewish people were under the law of God; it wasn't the period of grace that we live in today. Christ was, as well as the Messiah imo, a social reformer who's divine duty it was to reset people's understanding of what Yahweh expected from his people. The Pentateuch was written to give primitive people a law to abide by for the sake of moral advancement. However, we live in a new age and those laws are now blatantly archaic to be adhered to literally. Surely, witchcraft is bad, but it shouldn't be considered a punishable offensive. Christianity, unlike other religions, is primarily what I've heard referred to as a "historical religion". Many of the books in the Old Testament are more for historical reflection; it isn't like the Qu'ran. The Bible is meant to be interpretted by itself, in full context, with the righteousness and love that Christ displayed for His people as the main focus.
Hospitaller
Seminarian
Another example of what can happen when priests are poorly educated and developed in poorer countries.
Still, just because theres a few bad doctors I'm not going to reject medicine...
Besides what specific denomination are these Christians? or is it all of them???
Little Joe Gould
Seeking God
It appears to be a very primitive understanding of Christianity, masquerading as a Pentacostal sect, intermingling with the equally primitive animism of that region. It is a bad combination due to the fanatical aspect of Pentacostals as well as the obsession of animism with the occult and demonic presences.
Though I agree with you that not all religions take old mythologies and superstitions too literally, I think it a bit naiive to say that no religion does so.
A religion could very well be an organized spiritual journey that also takes old mythologies and superstitions as the Truth, as given by God, and therefore any deviation from it would be to forsake the one True path.
Really, I don't see how you can characterize some beliefs as "supersitions" or "old mythologies" or even "too literal" and others as not; and those that are "not" get to be called religion.
logician
Well-Known Member
I would say the marjority of denominations of Christianity in the U.S. have a "primitive" understanding of it.
I don't think I ever said that.
Many religions DO take old superstitions too literally. We have an example in the OP. That's very much a religion, but it's mired by old superstition.
"Please demonstrate the objective distinction between religion and outdated superstition.
Riverwolf said:
This was how you distinguished between religion and out-dated superstition. If out-dated superstition is a part of many religions, then I don't see how your distinction is meaningful.
This was how you distinguished between religion and out-dated superstition. If out-dated superstition is a part of many religions, then I don't see how your distinction is meaningful.
Some religions have integrated outdated superstitions into their practices and viewpoints. Some versions of Christianity have done this, other versions have not.
Christianity doesn't rely on outdated superstition to be Christianity. But some followers of the faith have adapted it anyway for whatever reason.