I don't think you have any genuine reason.

[chinu]

According to me, Longing for Moksha is equal to longing for God, and God reveals himself only in front of the one who is longing for Him/Moksha. That because this is the only reason which God find as genuine appeal to reveal himself in front of anybody.

Now, if you have any other reason to make appeal, What is that ?
And I'll try to tell you how this isn't a genuine reason for appealing.

 

[Gjallarhorn]

And what is your reason for this thread? Besides trying to convince people they all believe what you believe.

 

[Revoltingest]

All my reasons for anything I do are genuine.
All my reasons for anything I believe are....well....I have no reasons at all. I just believe what appears to be.

 

[chinu]

And what is your reason for this thread? Besides trying to convince people they all believe what you believe.

The reason is.. Simply I just feel like asking this.

 

[LuisDantas]

One does not need a reason not to believe in God.

 

[chinu]

All my reasons for anything I do are genuine.

Of course, it should be.

All my reasons for anything I believe are....well....I have no reasons at all. I just believe what appears to be.

I just believe what appears to be... What?
true or false ?
Please fill in the blank in order to complete you sentence.

 

[Revoltingest]

Of course, it should be.
I just believe what appears to be... What?
true or false ?
Please fill in the blank in order to complete you sentence.

....appears to be what is.
Of course, I know that what "is" is often (always?) illusory.

 

[chinu]

One does not need a reason not to believe in God.

And that's simply because one does believe in something else.

 

[chinu]

....appears to be what is.

Very Good!

Of course, I know that what "is" is often (always?) illusory.

So, you have the Reason which you didn't told me in your first reply.

Thank you for telling, truth.

 

[LuisDantas]

And that's simply because one does believe in something else.

What is that supposed to mean? In which sense are you using the word "belief"?

 

[Thief]

If no one needs a reason to believe....
then how to say your faith is firm?

I don't believe in simple head nodding.
Likewise, I think simple denial is shallow.

And when standing before heaven I think the questions will be.....

What do you believe?....and why do you believe it?

They might then ask.....did you tell anyone else the same thing?
They may be interested to see if your good word continued.
They might think it needful to stop a bad thing you may have started.

Consequences all around.

 

[chinu]

What is that supposed to mean? In which sense are you using the word "belief"?

What would you have answered me ? If I would have asked you the same after your reply (Below).

One does not need a reason not to believe in God.

 

[Amechania]

According to me, Longing for Moksha is equal to longing for God, and God reveals himself only in front of the one who is longing for Him/Moksha. That because this is the only reason which God find as genuine appeal to reveal himself in front of anybody.

Now, if you have any other reason, What is that ?
And I'll try to tell you how this isn't a genuine reason.

Are you trying to say that self-realization is equivalent to finding god? The kingdom of heaven is within you so to speak?

 

[LuisDantas]

What would you have answered me ? If I would have asked you the same after your reply (Below).

Not having belief in God hardly implies "lack of belief in anything".

Then again, we are doing this backwards. We should attempt to define and justify belief in God as the special case that it is.

 

[Revoltingest]

Very Good!
So, you have the Reason which you didn't told me in your first reply.

It isn't a reason, but rather a caveat about one's observations & inferences.

Thank you for telling, truth.

You might expect otherwise?

 

[chinu]

Are you trying to say that self-realization is equivalent to finding god? The kingdom of heaven is within you so to speak?

Firstly I want to make it clear that there's a big difference between "longing for something" and "finding something". finding is egoistic whereas longing isn't.

Of course, one realize "Self" by default after knowing God.

 

[steeltoes]

In my opinion, the idea of a God revealing Himself to me kind of turns me off if you know what I mean.

 

[averageJOE]

According to me, Longing for Moksha is equal to longing for God, and God reveals himself only in front of the one who is longing for Him/Moksha. That because this is the only reason which God find as genuine appeal to reveal himself in front of anybody.

Now, if you have any other reason, What is that ?
And I'll try to tell you how this isn't a genuine reason.

If god needs to "reveal" itself then god is not omnipresent.

 

[Gjallarhorn]

If god needs to "reveal" itself then god is not omnipresent.

Blah blah free will blah blah seek and ye shall find blah blah blah...

That help?

 

[Thief]

Not having belief in God hardly implies "lack of belief in anything".

Then again, we are doing this backwards. We should attempt to define and justify belief in God as the special case that it is.

Cause and effect.