Shushersbedamned
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I hate myself
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Axe Elf
Prophet
Do you mean in the Biblical sense of "to love less"? If so, then I guess you've achieved what we are all encouraged to do!
Congratulations!
I always hate when people say that you have to love yourself first before you can love anyone else. No, really, you need to hate yourself first (in the Biblical sense, anyway) before you can truly love anyone else.
Congratulations!
I always hate when people say that you have to love yourself first before you can love anyone else. No, really, you need to hate yourself first (in the Biblical sense, anyway) before you can truly love anyone else.
Okay, I'll ask the obvious question: why do you hate yourself?
I don't know how I can begin to express how absolutely wrong that is on every level. Does God hate you?
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
If you hate yourself, how can you possibly know love in yourself in order to love another? If you despise yourself, how can you genuinely respect another? When I say every level, I mean there is nowhere where hatred is the path to love.Why is that wrong on every level?
Hatred is the path to separation, not unity. The only place that has merit is where hatred forces you to either die, or let go of hatred in order to love, which is Life. It teaches Love is the only way. If you cannot accept Love for yourself, how can you accept if for another?
Yes. If God which knows you more than you do yourself loves you, then why shouldn't you?Should we love ourselves because God loves us?
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Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
Jesus said, "Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself." If you believe you must hate yourself, what does that tell you about how you ought to feel toward your neighbor?
dfnj
Well-Known Member
Wasn't there a song from the 80s, "When I think about you I hate myself" ?
Axe Elf
Prophet
It's certainly possible. Why else would He have put me here trying to explain astrophysics to chimps, so to speak?
In the Biblical sense of which I speak, though, "hate" just means to love less. Otherwise when Jesus says that you have to hate your own mother and father to follow Him (in Luke 14:26), He would be contradicting one of the Ten Commandments. "Jacob I have loved, but Esau I have hated," says the Lord, in Malachi 1:2-3 (and referenced in Romans 9:13). God doesn't love everybody the same.
Axe Elf
Prophet
One should love oneself less (hate oneself) compared to one's neighbor, and one should love one's neighbor less (hate one's neighbor) compared to one's God.
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
Difference in interpretation, I guess. Jesus also said, "A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another." To me, that statement is encouraging us to love our neighbor as our Savior loved us, patterning our love after His.
Spiderman
Veteran Member
God loves you unconditionally.
When Jesus was rebuked for hanging out with sinners, prostitutes, drunkards, and tax collectors, he responded, "those who are well have no need of a Doctor, it is the sick who need a physician. I came for sinners, not the righteous...there is more rejoicing in Heaven over one repentant sinner than 99 righteous people who have no need of repentance".
Be grateful you are you...you are typing, therefore you have arms and fingers. I knew a guy with no arms...could you imagine not being able to change clothes or wipe your behind....a man with no arms would give anything to have what you have.
Can you walk? I had a friend in high school who broke his neck and lives the rest of his life unable to move anything below the neck. He would do anything to have what you have.
A lot of people have it worse than you. Learn to love yourself and be grateful you are you
Roughly 60% of the world doesn't have running water. Could you imagine not having a flushable toilet, no shower, no washing machine for your clothes? Could you imagine how grimy, smelly, and disgusting that would feel after a while. They would love to have what you have. I'm sure they dream about it and long for it often.
Where do you live? Are there land mines, war, corrupt regimes, bombs falling from the sky...can you hear gun shots regularly? That is how some people live
Do you have a roof over your head and protection from the wind, rain, and elements? Some people don't.
Something tells me, you are actually very lucky! Be kind to yourself!Peace!
When Jesus was rebuked for hanging out with sinners, prostitutes, drunkards, and tax collectors, he responded, "those who are well have no need of a Doctor, it is the sick who need a physician. I came for sinners, not the righteous...there is more rejoicing in Heaven over one repentant sinner than 99 righteous people who have no need of repentance".
Be grateful you are you...you are typing, therefore you have arms and fingers. I knew a guy with no arms...could you imagine not being able to change clothes or wipe your behind....a man with no arms would give anything to have what you have.
Can you walk? I had a friend in high school who broke his neck and lives the rest of his life unable to move anything below the neck. He would do anything to have what you have.
A lot of people have it worse than you. Learn to love yourself and be grateful you are you
Roughly 60% of the world doesn't have running water. Could you imagine not having a flushable toilet, no shower, no washing machine for your clothes? Could you imagine how grimy, smelly, and disgusting that would feel after a while. They would love to have what you have. I'm sure they dream about it and long for it often.
Where do you live? Are there land mines, war, corrupt regimes, bombs falling from the sky...can you hear gun shots regularly? That is how some people live
Do you have a roof over your head and protection from the wind, rain, and elements? Some people don't.
Something tells me, you are actually very lucky! Be kind to yourself!
Peace!
RedDragon94
Love everyone, meditate often
I feel the same way too sometimes. You're not alone.
Depends, what's your attitude toward your issues?
RedDragon94
Love everyone, meditate often
We love because he first loved us. 1 John 4:19
I don't love my neighbor because I'm a good person. No, that is foreign to the Bible's message. My free choice to love someone is not because I figured it out (how to love myself). It's because Jesus Christ came to earth and showed me how to. Self hatred is not always self abusive.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
I can agree with that in a sense. I do not think we should hate ourselves, but I do not think we should be satisfied with ourselves either, because the minute we are self-satisfied we become arrogant. If we think we have arrived, there is nothing left to work on.
Even if we are not fully satisfied with ourselves, we can still love others. I do not believe we should love ourselves more than others. Jesus said to love they neighbor as thyself but Baha’u’llah asks humanity to prefer thy neighbor before yourself.
God created us out of love, but I do not believe that God loves everything we do, so I do not think we should love those things we do that are part of our lower selfish nature. Rather, we should strive to overcome that nature and to live according to our higher spiritual nature.
Why?
I don't want to judge, suppose to give you some unsolicited advice, or whatever. I'd just like to know why. At most I'll say, I hated myself for most of life, and really finding out why helped me figure out where to go from there. Just to be honest about it.
So why is it that you hate yourself, if you want to share?
I don't want to judge, suppose to give you some unsolicited advice, or whatever. I'd just like to know why. At most I'll say, I hated myself for most of life, and really finding out why helped me figure out where to go from there. Just to be honest about it.
So why is it that you hate yourself, if you want to share?
Axe Elf
Prophet
And how did our Savior love us? He laid down His life for ours; He loved Himself less than He loved us. He commands us to love ourselves less than we love others. That's what the Biblical sense of "hate" (in that context) means.
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
It kind of sounds like you've misunderstood me. I actually agree with you, at least up to this point. I don't believe I even implies that I love my neighbor "because I'm a good person." I'm sorry if you think I did.
I don't believe God wants us to hate ourselves. We are His sons and daughters. Why would He want us to hate someone He loves so much? I know how devastated I would be to hear either of my children (both of whom are grown now) say, "I hate myself." That's exactly how I believe God feels when He hears us say that we hate ourselves. It doesn't make Him happy; it breaks His heart.