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ok so i am told in many faiths god creates everything for a purpose etc. now im am a person with type1 schizophrenia and a anti social personality disorder.

i have figure dout a reason for the schizophrenia

but the second disease is one i cant really comprehend why god would create me in this way for the who are not familiar anti socails are a less involved form of sociopaths
we do not feel complex emotions at all our emotion respones are closer to thos eof animals then human beings for example i do not feel sadness,love, embarassment and many emotions but i can feel anger rage loneliness and some semblance of affection. and the sad trust about the disorder is a vast amount of people that are anti social's or sociopaths are killers i do not imply that i want to kill people lol but i dont understand why god would create a being that is inclined to commit murder much mor elikely then any other creature if he opposes the idea

im not trolling or starting confrontation im just curious if anyone has any ideas on why this even exists

 

[elmarna]

Someone has to have "thinking out of the box" thoughts.
While you realize differently & relate to life on a different level it is understood that your challenge in life is to connect with those around you who do not understand & can never imagine the world you see.
You are handed a special challenge [just as GOD tries to relate & connect with the deversified world of humanity]. To walk in GOD's shoes [as to put it] should make you a very special person indeed! To overcome the challenge you have been given....
NOW THAT IS SOMETHING!
I AM GLAD I SAW YOUR THREAD!
HOPEFUL YOU WILL BE A CHAMPION IN YOUR CHALLENGE!
MAY GOD NEVER LET YOU BE WITHOUT WHAT YOU NEED!!!!!!

 

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well thank you for being understanding i was not expecting a positive reply but it is a intresting concept that god creates people who are desighned to do things he is against and i geuss it is a test of faith you could assume but i dont understand the reasoning for creating a such a subhuman creation i mean desighning something like a human being capable of such good and evil then creating something as a mirrior image that is mostly set up for failure seems kinda cruel

 

[Otherright]

ok so i am told in many faiths god creates everything for a purpose etc. now im am a person with type1 schizophrenia and a anti social personality disorder.

i have figure dout a reason for the schizophrenia

but the second disease is one i cant really comprehend why god would create me in this way for the who are not familiar anti socails are a less involved form of sociopaths
we do not feel complex emotions at all our emotion respones are closer to thos eof animals then human beings for example i do not feel sadness,love, embarassment and many emotions but i can feel anger rage loneliness and some semblance of affection. and the sad trust about the disorder is a vast amount of people that are anti social's or sociopaths are killers i do not imply that i want to kill people lol but i dont understand why god would create a being that is inclined to commit murder much mor elikely then any other creature if he opposes the idea

im not trolling or starting confrontation im just curious if anyone has any ideas on why this even exists

I don't even know how to reply to this man, but I'll try. I am personally a non-theist. My opinion is that you are just that way. There was no God to blame for this condition. You are just unfortunate.
I could lecture you on Buddhist thought and meditation to calm the mind, but you have a very serious neurological disorder that I'm not sure meditation could control or help.

I think it could help calm your mind in periods of relapse, but when the delusions emerge, I'm not sure anything can help you.

What are you taking as far as a prescription regimen and when was the last time you were admitted and what was the length. I'm just curious. I will try to help you if I can, but the question of why would God create killing machines isn't going to give you solace with an answer. You really need to learn to find calm in your mind at the moments you can.

 

[Falvlun]

Well, I am an atheist, but just pretending that God created you this way purposefully, perhaps you were a super strong soul up in heaven. And because you were so strong, your life on Earth had to be even harder so that it wouldn't be a cakewalk and you'd actually learn what it was like to fail and how to be humble and such.

Or, in a more traditional Adam-and-Eve outlook. disease, mental and otherwise, came with the curse from the original sin. God did not intend for you to be less than perfect, but because A&E chose that path, you're getting the brunt end of the stick.

Which does bring up questions of fairness and all. Why should you be punished for someone else's mistakes? Why should you have a harder time than someone else? Assuming, of course, that God loves everyone equally, it is a bit incomprehensible.

 

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believe it ro not i am more socially evolved then any person with my condition you could ever find lmao im not struggling so much as i wonder on what peoples opinions on the matter as in my other topics i have a rather loose fitting stand poin ton faith i am posting this for the mere pleasure of other peoples opinions and i think it is a good subject to provoke some creativity and free thinking i am currently on no medication and i have been hospitalized 19 times ranging from 5 days to 2 months but immy diffenc eim not insane my family misunderstands me and worries about me but all in all i ama a very well rounded and intellectual individual i am a spiritual man and aman of science both can relate to one another i understand the scientific point of the situation and i do not blame the god or creator of existence for my condition i just wonder if anyone has any insight why god would want to create a efficent and merciless killing machine i do not see a purpose for such a thing. btw i do not kill people or anything lmao for the people who mis interpret what i am saying. but i have figured out that schizophrenia is a flawed evolution the schizophrenic brain uses 15-25 percent of maximum cappacity of the brain whereas the average human uses 9 percent schizophrenia is a adaptation to higher intellectuall processing and just isnt effective in most cases but i have managed to use that particualr instanc eto my advantage i can completely dull out the voices and delusions and use that over active part of my brain to process information and learn things at a alarming speed i am currently studying to be a doctor and it can be a disabilitating disorder but has some beneficial uses if manage dproperly

 

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and falvun i can agree about the strong soul thing it is a very intresting take on my situation thank you for sharing the atheist pespective it does make sense i can understand the soul recycle theory. and as far as adam and eve go ya if god is the christian god and he did spite us beacuse of original sin then a@e are ******** lol

but the part of this condition i find bothersome despite the obvious flaws is that inability to feel an emotianly pleasure response or stimulation to anything pretty much i dont know how to explain it but the emotions if you want to call them that are kind of primal and unevolved kinda feel like a emotinal mute

 

[Otherright]

believe it ro not i am more socially evolved then any person with my condition you could ever find lmao im not struggling so much as i wonder on what peoples opinions on the matter as in my other topics i have a rather loose fitting stand poin ton faith i am posting this for the mere pleasure of other peoples opinions and i think it is a good subject to provoke some creativity and free thinking i am currently on no medication and i have been hospitalized 19 times ranging from 5 days to 2 months but immy diffenc eim not insane my family misunderstands me and worries about me but all in all i ama a very well rounded and intellectual individual i am a spiritual man and aman of science both can relate to one another i understand the scientific point of the situation and i do not blame the god or creator of existence for my condition i just wonder if anyone has any insight why god would want to create a efficent and merciless killing machine i do not see a purpose for such a thing. btw i do not kill people or anything lmao for the people who mis interpret what i am saying. but i have figured out that schizophrenia is a flawed evolution the schizophrenic brain uses 15-25 percent of maximum cappacity of the brain whereas the average human uses 9 percent schizophrenia is a adaptation to higher intellectuall processing and just isnt effective in most cases but i have managed to use that particualr instanc eto my advantage i can completely dull out the voices and delusions and use that over active part of my brain to process information and learn things at a alarming speed i am currently studying to be a doctor and it can be a disabilitating disorder but has some beneficial uses if manage dproperly

I'm not saying you are insane, I'm saying you are schizophrenic. It isn't a flawed evolution, it is a neurological disorder caused by extreme imbalances and perhaps a malformation physiologically.

You are not using 15-25 percent of the brain, and average people don't use 9 percent. We use the whole brain. Each part has a specific process and function. As far as maximum capacity, there has never been a human being that has used the maximum capacity, so how can you judge this. It is a clearer statement to assume that we all use the capacity of the brain to our fullest advantage.

I hate to share this with you, but your idea that you are dulling the delusions and using that part for processing, is a manifestation of your delusion. The brain doesn't work that way.

Lastly, learning quickly is a great advantage, but it is not attributed to your schizophrenia. Personally, I have a brain hypertrophy disorder, that allows me very little rest. This is caused by a problem in the processing between my short-term and long-term memory. The end result is I remember almost everything in perfect detail, even the small stuff. Unfortunately for me, if it makes it past the natural brain filters, its in there, forever.

 

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well i didnt state wha ti was saying correctly i ment to say consciously uses 9 percent of the brain schizophrenics access part of the brain that normal people use sub consciously
which if you look into it isnt delusional it is a possible theory im not delusional lol but i respect the assumption people with different neurological issues have different brain frequencies this is indisputable think of people with autism that can do mathmatical equations that no normal person could comprehend i am slightly offended that you think im delusional lol but there is no need to knock what helps me feel somewhat good about what i am and i have watched myself progress ina positive manner and i am sorry about your condition but there can be advantages to every malformation anything can be used properly to soem degree and there are studies that state people with schizophrenia have different processes pertaining to creativity, interpretation and different brain function

 

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i acutally dont feel like debating my theory of trying to have a positive outlook on mental illnesses lets get back on topic so how does anyone feel about my original post?

 

[Otherright]

well i didnt state wha ti was saying correctly i ment to say consciously uses 9 percent of the brain schizophrenics access part of the brain that normal people use sub consciously
which if you look into it isnt delusional it is a possible theory im not delusional lol but i respect the assumption people with different neurological issues have different brain frequencies this is indisputable think of people with autism that can do mathmatical equations that no normal person could comprehend i am slightly offended that you think im delusional lol but there is no need to knock what helps me feel somewhat good about what i am and i have watched myself progress ina positive manner and i am sorry about your condition but there can be advantages to every malformation anything can be used properly to soem degree and there are studies that state people with schizophrenia have different processes pertaining to creativity, interpretation and different brain function

I'm not trying to insult you. If you are genuinely schizophrenic, and not just playing with words, you have delusions. I didn't say you were a bad person for having delusions. If you are never manifesting delusions, then you are bi-polar, based on your description and not schizophrenic.

I know schizophrenia. My father is a brilliant man holding degrees in psychiatry, mathematics, and theology. He is also out of his mind. Do you remember the movie Con Air? Cyrus the Virus is a very accurate description of my father. Brilliant, cold, calculating, manipulative. A genius of a man rotting in a penal institution for the criminally insane because of delusion and violence.

 

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im not saying i havent expierinced delusions i have worked my way through that you called the theory i stated a delusional thought when it wasnt it may not be 100 percent accurate but it isnt delusional to think that a disease that alters the brain and change sbrain frequencies cant alter overall some brain function ina beneficial manner. im sorry about your father. iwas jsut defending a theory that i am not the only one has thought of. but ya i have expiernced delusions i can sort them out tho i dont think ive hit that complete break from reality yet but my time will come. would you mind elaborating some of your fathers delusions its always intresting to hear a different expierince?

 

[Otherright]

im not saying i havent expierinced delusions i have worked my way through that you called the theory i stated a delusional thought when it wasnt it may not be 100 percent accurate but it isnt delusional to think that a disease that alters the brain and change sbrain frequencies cant alter overall some brain function ina beneficial manner. im sorry about your father. iwas jsut defending a theory that i am not the only one has thought of. but ya i have expiernced delusions i can sort them out tho i dont think ive hit that complete break from reality yet but my time will come. would you mind elaborating some of your fathers delusions its always intresting to hear a different expierince?

There is no need to apologize for my father. I have plenty of good examples but I don't think you want to hear about beating someone's skull in with a hammer and butchering a woman in front of her three children, or a five-year-old walking into a blood-soaked bathroom. All because of delusion.

My point is delusion can be dangerous. Don't rely on Gods or myths to build your world view. When you start justifying your deeds through ideas that are non-empirical, it can lead to suffering like you can't imagine. You have to learn to stay focused on the now and the actions you can take to stop suffering now.

 

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i agree i was mostly intrested in the theory that everything has a purpose and was curious what some of the religions thought on the matter. but this has been an intresting discussion

 

[InChrist]

[FONT=&quot]I believe diseases, physical or mental, are the result of living in a fallen, sinful world where things are breaking down and deteriorating. From my perspective, God did not create you or anyone to be [/FONT][FONT=&quot]schizophrenic. I have a friend who has worked with abused children for many years and he thinks the cases he sees of violent, schizophrenic kids have a demonic influence, but bi-polar conditions are caused by chemical imbalance. I don’t know enough about these conditions myself, but I do believe the scriptures which indicate the reality of demonic possession and that life in this world is imperfect because it is infected with effects of sin. Yet, I believe there is hope through the Savior Jesus Christ.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.2 Timothy 1:7[/FONT]

 

[Otherright]

[FONT=&quot]I believe diseases, physical or mental, are the result of living in a fallen, sinful world where things are breaking down and deteriorating. From my perspective, God did not create you or anyone to be [/FONT][FONT=&quot]schizophrenic. I have a friend who has worked with abused children for many years and he thinks the cases he sees of violent, schizophrenic kids have a demonic influence, but bi-polar conditions are caused by chemical imbalance. I don’t know enough about these conditions myself, but I do believe the scriptures which indicate the reality of demonic possession and that life in this world is imperfect because it is infected with effects of sin. Yet, I believe there is hope through the Savior Jesus Christ.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.2 Timothy 1:7[/FONT]

You genuinely think that mental illnesses are caused by demons?

 

[InChrist]

You genuinely think that mental illnesses are caused by demons?

[FONT=&quot]I don’t think all mental illnesses are, but I do think some may be caused by demonic influence or possession, especially those which result in violent, gruesome behavior.[/FONT]

 

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christianity burned my kind alive i dont think i am possessed by demons, that theory didnt work so well for us in the past