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savagewind

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savagewind

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Do you admit it was a dumb question? @djhwoodwerks

Though, I might never have seen little orange balls in a cage had you never asked it!

Mine don't look like that.

Thank you!
 

savagewind

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I have lavender too. There is a farm which grows it. There I can pick it myself and then pay for a bunch.
The first time I went there the rule wasn't explicit which rule was to take an OK sign bunch and cut it all together. It is FAST that way. I decided to do it the slow way. I cut each stem alone. It took awhile, but, of course, I got more stems that way. Was I stealing? You don't understand. (God told me)
I am asking if because I got more stems doing it slow, one by one, was I stealing the extra stems?
 

savagewind

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I forgot a step. The next time I went to pick some and I knew it was grab and cut, but I did it my way again, was that stealing stems, in your superior opinion?
 

savagewind

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Can you see Matthew 28:19 another way?

Can you agree that to be a disciple of Jesus is to learn to be a king and a priest?


Revelation 1:6
and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father--to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen.

Exodus 19:6
you will be for me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.' These are the words you are to speak to the Israelites.

1 Peter 2:9
But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God's special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.

Ephesians 1:4
For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love

OK With those in mind can you rethink Matthew 28:19?

I am hearing you all say that God's will is to make kings and priests of nations.

But, if you could please take out "make", then what it would read is that we should be kings and priests TO the nations.

Not OF, TO.


Genesis 22:18 through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed, because you have obeyed me

YOU have changed God's word to mean this: Through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed because they (your offspring) will make them (people of the nations) obey me.
 

djhwoodwerks

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I forgot a step. The next time I went to pick some and I knew it was grab and cut, but I did it my way again, was that stealing stems, in your superior opinion?

Lol! If you take something that doesn't belong to you, it's stealing!

In your "superior" opinion, if someone claims to be a Christian, claims to personally hear the "truth" from Jesus, out right, knowingly, consciously steals something, can they "really" be a Christian?

Hebrews 10:26 (ESV Strong's) 26 For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins
 

savagewind

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Lol! If you take something that doesn't belong to you, it's stealing!

In your "superior" opinion, if someone claims to be a Christian, claims to personally hear the "truth" from Jesus, out right, knowingly, consciously steals something, can they "really" be a Christian?

Hebrews 10:26 (ESV Strong's) 26 For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins
OK. I know "to make" in a spiritual sense doesn't belong to anyone but to God. So, Hi brother! Nice to meet you! Huh? LOL You steal the real meaning of Matthew 28:19, but that is OK because it wasn't you, you're just going along with it. Is it still stealing?
 
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savagewind

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Hebrews 10:26 (ESV Strong's) 26 For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins
I really, really hope this is a joke. If we go on sinning deliberately AGAINST JEHOVAH, there is no longer remains a sacrifice for sins.

Please tell me you are kidding.

I think considering the audience [what audience?] it isn't wise to misuse scriptures for jest.

Ephesians 5:4
 
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savagewind

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How is to make in a spiritual sense belonging only to Jehovah? If I make anything it is in MY image I make it.
So, kings and priests, of course, are so because they are in GOD'S image. God makes them.
 

savagewind

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So, You'll, tell me how I am wrong that a disciple is someone chosen BY GOD to be a king and a priest with Jesus (not his real name)?
 

savagewind

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Lol! If you take something that doesn't belong to you, it's stealing!

In your "superior" opinion, if someone claims to be a Christian, claims to personally hear the "truth" from Jesus, out right, knowingly, consciously steals something, can they "really" be a Christian?

Hebrews 10:26 (ESV Strong's) 26 For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins
So, what you teach is obedience, not to The Spirit of the law, but, to the word of the law. Is that right? Or are you kidding? I hope you are kidding.
Or are you not teaching? Never?

Matthew 28:20 teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age

Or, maybe, you do not consider yourself a disciple. Is that right?
 

djhwoodwerks

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I really, really hope this is a joke. If we go on sinning deliberately AGAINST JEHOVAH, there is no longer remains a sacrifice for sins.

Please tell me you are kidding.

I think considering the audience [what audience?] it isn't wise to misuse scriptures for jest.

Ephesians 5:4

Nope, I'm not kidding! And I "NEVER" misuse scripture for jest!!

Matthew 19:18 (ESV Strong's) 18 He said to him, “Which ones?” And Jesus said, “You shall not murder, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness

Mark 10:19 (ESV Strong's) 19 You know the commandments: Do not murder, Do not commit adultery, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Do not defraud, Honor your father and mother.’”

Luke 18:20 (ESV Strong's) 20 You know the commandments: Do not commit adultery, Do not murder, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honor your father and mother.’”

Romans 13:9 (ESV Strong's) 9 For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet,” and any other commandment, are summed up in this word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

"Jehovah" gave the commandment, "DO NOT STEAL", it is His law, so when you steal, you are sinning against "Jehovah"!
 

savagewind

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Nope, I'm not kidding! And I "NEVER" misuse scripture for jest!!

Matthew 19:18 (ESV Strong's) 18 He said to him, “Which ones?” And Jesus said, “You shall not murder, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness

Mark 10:19 (ESV Strong's) 19 You know the commandments: Do not murder, Do not commit adultery, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Do not defraud, Honor your father and mother.’”

Luke 18:20 (ESV Strong's) 20 You know the commandments: Do not commit adultery, Do not murder, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honor your father and mother.’”

Romans 13:9 (ESV Strong's) 9 For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet,” and any other commandment, are summed up in this word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

"Jehovah" gave the commandment, "DO NOT STEAL", it is His law, so when you steal, you are sinning against "Jehovah"!
So, Are YOU stealing? Romans 2:21
Or perhaps you are one of those who teach that God has protected all scripture from any changes?

I know that by your teaching scripture YOUR way you steal the real meaning from anyone who might listen to you.
 

djhwoodwerks

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How is to make in a spiritual sense belonging only to Jehovah? If I make anything it is in MY image I make it.
So, kings and priests, of course, are so because they are in GOD'S image. God makes them.

You need to understand that, when Jesus said to "make" disciples of all nations, He "DIDN'T" mean that we are to go around and "FORCIBLY" make people believe and become a disciple.
 

savagewind

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So haha, when I took those dying Chinese Lanterns it wasn't from nobody I stole them, it was from Jehovah I stole them. Maybe you want to rethink that.

So, while I was walking along the sidewalk, over the sidewalk hung some balls and I took three of them.
They were hanging over public property. Did I steal those too?
 
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