I have another question for YOU to ignore

[savagewind]

How do you know you are truly being led by the Spirit in regards to picking out what parts you think are true or what parts you think are not true in the Bible?


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Haha. You are funny, but not in a good way imo.

HOW DO YOU know that all those who have handled the Bible were truly led by the Spirit?

You know it. Correct? HOW?

 

[savagewind]

Did God make a personal promise to you that whatever we shall have in God's Name will all be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

 

[savagewind]

Is it not interesting that people are saying, "God wouldn't_______", as in God would not let what people call "the word of God" go forth wrong, but God has never said, "Joe Schmo wouldn't_______"?

Has God ever said that someone wouldn't do this or that?

 

[savagewind]

Joe Schmo is just a word for anybody.

 

[savagewind]

The question of the day is, how does anybody know that all the people who had a hand in doing the Bible were being led by The Holy Spirit?

I know what you are thinking. You are referencing 2 Timothy 3:16.

All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness.

I think you should know that that idea was correct imho.
I think you should know that all means the whole thing.
The whole thing was written by many people and translated and copied by many more people.

I want you to think about this.

How might a lie be beneficial? Or maybe you have given up thinking per order of the crow?

 

[Kenny]

Is it possible nobody understands that Matthew 7:23 is written as though it is an order?

Orders of God are to be obeyed. Agreed?

So, according to YOU God orders evil people to kill themselves. Why doesn't God just order them to be good instead?

I don't think that the logical process you declared is logical as it doesn't factor in all variables.

It ignores free will;
It doesn't take into account that many people MUST do things they don't want to do like a judge who says "You are going to prison"--which I believe most would say "I don't want to".
You can never order someone to love them.

I'm sure there are many more variables that I haven't even mentioned.

 

[savagewind]

I don't think that the logical process you declared is logical as it doesn't factor in all variables.

It ignores free will;
It doesn't take into account that many people MUST do things they don't want to do like a judge who says "You are going to prison"--which I believe most would say "I don't want to".
You can never order someone to love them.

I'm sure there are many more variables that I haven't even mentioned.

But.......to be saying, "get away" and they must get away ignores their free will to say, "I think I'll stay, thank you very much!".

 

[Kenny]

But.......to be saying, "get away" and they must get away ignores their free will to say, "I think I'll stay, thank you very much!".

It ignores their option but their free will remains intact. Like the person I knew who had the option to change after they came out of prison. They decided to just go right back into their previous lifestyle when many options were available.

It didn't ignore their free will... it ignored their choice of options.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

The question of the day is, how does anybody know that all the people who had a hand in doing the Bible were being led by The Holy Spirit?

I know what you are thinking. You are referencing 2 Timothy 3:16.

All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness.

I think you should know that that idea was correct imho.
I think you should know that all means the whole thing.
The whole thing was written by many people and translated and copied by many more people.

I want you to think about this.

How might a lie be beneficial? Or maybe you have given up thinking per order of the crow?

You should find a new hobby!

Psalms 12:6-7 (KJV) 6 The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. 7 Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

You actually believe God failed?

 

[savagewind]

You should find a new hobby!

Psalms 12:6-7 (KJV) 6 The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. 7 Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

You actually believe God failed?

God can not fail. YOU equate the Bible with the Lord's pure words. I don't. The Lord's words are still pure.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

God can not fail. YOU equate the Bible with the Lord's pure words. I don't. The Lord's words are still pure.

Then why do you even read it?

 

[Kenny]

The question of the day is, how does anybody know that all the people who had a hand in doing the Bible were being led by The Holy Spirit?

By its cross referencing and its prophetic capacity that still plays out today.

 

[savagewind]

By its cross referencing and its prophetic capacity that still plays out today.

You probably do not know that demons have inside knowledge too.

Matthew 8:29
"What do you want with us, Son of God?" they shouted. "Have You come here to torture us before the proper time?"
Mark 1:24
"What do You want with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have You come to destroy us? I know who You are--the Holy One of God!"
Mark 5:7
And he shouted in a loud voice, "What do You want with me, Jesus, Son of the
Most High God? I beg You before God not to torture me."
Luke 4:34
"Ha! What do You want with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have You come to destroy us? I know who You are, the Holy One of God!"
Acts 19:15
Eventually, one of the evil spirits answered them, "Jesus I know, and I know about Paul, but you, who are you?
James 2:19
You believe that God is one. Good for you! Even the demons believe that, and shudder!

 

[Kenny]

You probably do not know that demons have inside knowledge too.

You just changed the subject.... but do you always make assumptions?

Matthew 8:29
"What do you want with us, Son of God?" they shouted. "Have You come here to torture us before the proper time?"
Mark 1:24
"What do You want with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have You come to destroy us? I know who You are--the Holy One of God!"
Mark 5:7
And he shouted in a loud voice, "What do You want with me, Jesus, Son of the
Most High God? I beg You before God not to torture me."
Luke 4:34
"Ha! What do You want with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have You come to destroy us? I know who You are, the Holy One of God!"
Acts 19:15
Eventually, one of the evil spirits answered them, "Jesus I know, and I know about Paul, but you, who are you?
James 2:19
You believe that God is one. Good for you! Even the demons believe that, and shudder!

They are spirit being and knew when they were cast down what their final destination is. They know what is and what was. But they have no prophetic capacity.

If they had "inside information" they would have never influenced people to crucify Jesus.

Do you understand they have the power to influence you and blind your eyes?

 

[savagewind]

You just changed the subject.... but do you always make assumptions?


They are spirit being and knew when they were cast down what their final destination is. They know what is and what was. But they have no prophetic capacity.

You know that how?

If they had "inside information" they would have never influenced people to crucify Jesus.

Do you understand they have the power to influence you and blind your eyes?

You are no different than the people who say they know what God will and won't do. I call that unwise.

 

[Kenny]

You know that how?

Because if they did, they would never have crucified Jesus

You are no different than the people who say they know what God will and won't do. I call that unwise.

In your humble opinion.

But, again, we trust the Bible because of it's prophetic capacity (which still occurs) and its cross referencing.

 

[savagewind]

Because if they did, they would never have crucified Jesus


In your humble opinion.

But, again, we trust the Bible because of it's prophetic capacity (which still occurs) and its cross referencing.

I trust God. The Bible is not God fyi.

 

[Muffled]

Matthew 7:22 (ESV Strong's) 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’

What do you think, "ON THAT DAY" means?

I believe in general it would be the day of rapture because that is when most people will enter the Kingdom which is the day talked about in v21.

 

[Muffled]

I think ON THAT DAY is

Matthew 24:35-37 New International Version (NIV)

Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.

I believe that is very bad exegesis. Referrals usually refer backwards not forwards and not only that it is the literal answer to the question and not the answer the apostles were looking for.

I believe it refers back to "entering the Kingdom" in v21 so this is the passage in Matthew that corresponds:
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

 

[Muffled]

You've almost got it! What happens when "the Son of Man" (Jesus) returns?

Here's a hint,

I don't believe so. I believe we enter the kingdom 1,000 years before the last judgement.