I have desided to get the Covid vaccine

[Revoltingest]

No, I just say i want to know what I put in my body. And even i will take the vaccine, it is not on a free will. I am being pushed by the governmental system.

To vax or not is still a choice, ie, you have free will.
But choices have consequences because we interact
with other people. Covid 19 poses a danger to others,
so others will limit exposure to unvaxed people.
This is their right, ie, free will.

You're choosing vaccination because you want to
interact with them freely. It can help to see things this
way...as cooperating with others for both your & their
personal benefit, rather than lacking free will.

 

[Spirit of Light]

To vax or not is still a choice, ie, you have free will.
But choices have consequences because we interact
with other people. Covid 19 poses a danger to others,
so others will limit exposure to unvaxed people.
This is their right, ie, free will.

You're choosing vaccination because you want to
interact with them freely. It can help to see things this
way...as cooperating with others for both your & their
personal benefit, rather than lacking free will.

I don't believe in the effect of the vaccine, but I will take it so others can feel safe. Thats the only reason i will go through with it.

 

[Revoltingest]

I don't believe in the effect of the vaccine, but I will take it so others can feel safe. Thats the only reason i will go through with it.

Would that be just SARS-CoV-2 vaccines,
or all vaccines?

 

[Spirit of Light]

Would that be just SARS-CoV-2 vaccines,
or all vaccines?

All,

 

[Revoltingest]

All,

Perspective might be at the root of your & my
seeing different risks & benefits.
When I was a kid polio had crippled & killed many
many children. Thanx to vaccination, the Americas
have been polio free this century. (Last case was
in Peru in 1991.)
These days, shingles has afflicted people I know.
It's very painful, & can lead to blindness.
So I'm vaccinated for that too.
As for Covid 19....beating a dead horse here....
My vaccinated acquaintances have had no
hospitalizations. By unvaxed ones have suffered.
Many hospitalized, & some have died. One of
my tenants died just last week.

 

[Truthseeker]

South Africa: early data suggest Omicron is more transmissible but less severe

This is from The Conversation, which is an independent and runs from donations from ordinary people.

 

[Truthseeker]

In spite of most people being vaccinated.... what does that tell you, logically speaking?

Flus and such always go up during the winter. That's why flu shots are encouraged in the fall. The percentage of people vaccinated are not going up hardly at all because of the resistance of people to being vaccinated. This is largely because the issue has been politicized.

 

[England my lionheart]

Last time I took a vaccine i was 16 years old, also then I had no choice since I was not yet adult.

I can’t remember how many different ones I’ve had,definitely smallpox diphtheria/tetanus,it’s all good.

 

[Spirit of Light]

I can’t remember how many different ones I’ve had,definitely smallpox diphtheria/tetanus,it’s all good.

If you feel safe taking them, that is good

 

[Truthseeker]

I do not believe in pressure and commanding people to go against their wish.

People who want the vaccine is welcome to take it of course, but it will not stop the spreading of covid. Only reduce the symptoms

I think that people with the vaccine do get covid19 less often. That's why I am afraid that the number of people vaccinated in Sub-Saharan Africa is so low. It allows more people to get sick there, which in turn allows more time for more variants of Covid19 to develop, which could be bad. Significantly the omicron variant came about in South Africa.

The lack of the rich countries to help these countries is really against their own interests. Like climate change Covid19 is a global problem from which hopefully all countries will realize that the good of the world is also the good of the individual country.

Unity of the world will come not because the countries and the people in it become unselfish, but because unified actions are needed.

 

[Trailblazer]

Not unless a majority of people support vaccination. ;-)

Luckily the majority does not RULE in a democratic country like the United States, at least not thus far.

 

[Revoltingest]

If you feel safe taking them, that is good

I don't have any feelings about vaccines.
I felt safe beforehand.
I felt equally safe afterwards.
My only reason to get the shots was that it
greatly reduced the risk of disease.

It's rather like buying insurance on cars, trucks,
& homes. I just do what makes financial & legal
sense, without any feeling whatsoever.
(Yes...I'm cold hearted.)

 

[Trailblazer]

Flus and such always go up during the winter. That's why flu shots are encouraged in the fall. The percentage of people vaccinated are not going up hardly at all because of the resistance of people to being vaccinated. This is largely because the issue has been politicized.

No, the reason more people have bot been vaccinated has nothing to do with politics, it has to do with their choice not to. It's called free will and God gave it to us for a reason.

 

[Revoltingest]

Luckily the majority does not RULE in a democratic country like the United States, at least not thus far.

Majority rules to some extent, varying with issue to issue,
& from time to time. I like that we've a Constitution that
gums up the works when passions are inflamed. It puts
a damper on popular whims becoming law....usually.
I don't want government to ever have the power to go
door to door with hypos & warrants.
Reminds me of....

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Luckily the majority does not RULE in a democratic country like the United States, at least not thus far.

As Revoltingest stated, it depends on the issue.

I was meaning to point out that suggesting vaccine mandates are undemocratic would not make sense if the majority of the population supports vaccination.

 

[Trailblazer]

As Revoltingest stated, it depends on the issue.

I was meaning to point out that suggesting vaccine mandates are undemocratic would not make sense if the majority of the population supports vaccination.

That depends upon what you mean by democratic.

What it means to be democratic?

1 : relating to or favoring political democracy. 2 : relating to a major political party in the United States that is associated with helping common people. 3 : believing in or practicing the idea that people are socially equal.

Democratic Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster

Unless the majority voted and passed a law making the vaccination mandatory, I cannot see how it would be democratic to mandate vaccinations. The majority cannot rule in a free country because that would be discriminating against the minority.

 

[SomeRandom]

Perspective might be at the root of your & my
seeing different risks & benefits.
When I was a kid polio had crippled & killed many
many children. Thanx to vaccination, the Americas
have been polio free this century. (Last case was
in Peru in 1991.)
These days, shingles has afflicted people I know.
It's very painful, & can lead to blindness.
So I'm vaccinated for that too.
As for Covid 19....beating a dead horse here....
My vaccinated acquaintances have had no
hospitalizations. By unvaxed ones have suffered.
Many hospitalized, & some have died. One of
my tenants died just last week.

Whoa. Shingles can cause blindness? Really!?


BRB. Gonna check me vaccination history

 

[Revoltingest]

Whoa. Shingles can cause blindness? Really!?


BRB. Gonna check me vaccination history

Pharmacist who gave my my shingles shot
said she knows 3 who went blind. A friend
almost did.

 

[Truthseeker]

No, the reason more people have bot been vaccinated has nothing to do with politics, it has to do with their choice not to. It's called free will and God gave it to us for a reason.

Politicians and news hosts have been influencing them, though indeed they have free will. They also need to exercise their independent search of truth and look at other channels and social media.

 

[SomeRandom]

Pharmacist who gave my my shingles shot
said she knows 3 who went blind. A friend
almost did.

Wow!
Do chicken pox vaccines count? Or do you have to specifically get shingles vax? I assumed the chicken pox vax covered shingles anyway