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I have two questions about monkeys and evolution

Yazata

Active Member
Why is the education system such a failure?

Does that question have anything to do with answering the question in the OP?

The question is why, if human beings evolved by natural selection from monkey-like ancestors, why animals (monkeys) very much like those ancestors still exist today.

It's a legitimate and intelligent biological question.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Does that question have anything to do with answering the question in the OP?

The question is why, if human beings evolved by natural selection from monkey-like ancestors, why animals (monkeys) very much like those ancestors still exist today.

It's a legitimate and intelligent biological question.


And the answer to that question is taught in any half decent secondary school
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Does that question have anything to do with answering the question in the OP?

The question is why, if human beings evolved by natural selection from monkey-like ancestors, why animals (monkeys) very much like those ancestors still exist today.

It's a legitimate and intelligent biological question.
The correct answer in this case is
a) The ancient ancestor of apes and monkeys were not like modern monkeys. So the kind of animals from which apes and monkeys evolved from actually no longer exist. See example below,
Aegyptopithecus - Wikipedia
b) The similarity that does exist between those ancient " monkeys" and modern "monkeys" is due to the fact that the arboreal ecological niche has more or less stayed the same. Natural selection will not usually drive a new innovation if the population remains in the same ecology more or less.
 

Yazata

Active Member
And the answer to that question is taught in any half decent secondary school

So if everyone already supposedly knew the answer, then why all the irrelevancies, sarcasm and failed attempts at wit? Why didn't anyone actually answer the question?
 

Yazata

Active Member
The correct answer in this case is
a) The ancient ancestor of apes and monkeys were not like modern monkeys. So the kind of animals from which apes and monkeys evolved from actually no longer exist. See example below,
Aegyptopithecus - Wikipedia
b) The similarity that does exist between those ancient " monkeys" and modern "monkeys" is due to the fact that the arboreal ecological niche has more or less stayed the same. Natural selection will not usually drive a new innovation if the population remains in the same ecology more or less.

Yes, I agree with that. (See my post #21)
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
So if everyone already supposedly knew the answer, then why all the irrelevancies, sarcasm and failed attempts at wit? Why didn't anyone actually answer the question?

The question has been answered many times, i myself have answered it many times, once on this thread. It still doesn't stop deliberately ignorant from asking the same question over and over and over and over again. Is almost like they don't want to consider the answer for some reason
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
It is happening now, it is observed to be happening nowm

And it is known that unnatural amounts of radiation can speed up mutations.

Both using current methods and on early earth when there was little atmospheric filtering of the suns radiation
At birth, children typically have 70 new genetic mutations compared to their parents

Some parents pass on more mutations to their children than others).

That's every single child born so for 7 billion people (estimated) alive today that's wround 490 billion mutations in the population of human beings. How many in other species is unknown
Once again and again and again, humans remain humans even with "new genetic mutations." They don't become horses unless of course they eat like a horse.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
The question has been answered many times, i myself have answered it many times, once on this thread. It still doesn't stop deliberately ignorant from asking the same question over and over and over and over again. Is almost like they don't want to consider the answer for some reason
No matter how many times same question asked, again and again, there is no proof, no experimentation that proves anything like evolution, survival of the fittest by natural selection kind, such as rodents becoming humans, eventually. Nothing. Nowhere.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Does that question have anything to do with answering the question in the OP?

Yes. What is taught as true is likely not true 10 years from then. But you gotta have the current answer to get a good mark. In school no one generally says, this may not be TRUE next year ..But for now this is what scientists figure. That's not even discussing the changing opinions of time dating. So glad to look into this more
 

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
Does that question have anything to do with answering the question in the OP?

The question is why, if human beings evolved by natural selection from monkey-like ancestors, why animals (monkeys) very much like those ancestors still exist today.

It's a legitimate and intelligent biological question.

It had already been answered in the posts previous to mine in a much better way than I could have explained. And as often happens on discussions forums I added my thoughts.

I disagree that it was an intelligent biological question considering it contained smilies.
 

ppp

Well-Known Member
So if everyone already supposedly knew the answer, then why all the irrelevancies, sarcasm and failed attempts at wit? Why didn't anyone actually answer the question?
It's one of those questions that creation is throughout to waste time. It is even more ubiquitous than Pascal's wager.:facepalm:
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
The basic human question should be asked why did a human want to argue a humans closest ancestor an ape to argue human science?

When natural just an equal human is first.

Science never existed it was chosen.

And you won't stop arguing?

The truth if you have to constantly preach information to a mind constantly changed forgetting memory as humans life being destroyed does.

As it's proven by human life body changes and conscious behaviours changing relative to sexuality...being.

Then just like any preaching before your entrainment of thoughts affects beliefs. Said in the time of false preaching as a human warning we see the need.

If a scientist a human in biology exact as a human looks at earths chemistry. It is a totally owned human biology that says life began as an AI change and he means human.

As the human is quantifying the advice by his human biology and mind.

So another just a human has to preach apes living by biology then sex is the closest form to a humans living status.

Not chemicals.

Most of the biology exists in the sex act as biology.

So he says chemicals.

He says in the biological sex act some chemicals must have changed.

Yes brother in the biology not the earth mass. That's where machines came from.

So a theory says I believe organic ape two parents biology changed so not an ape baby but a human type was born.

So today proof with lots of fallout biology attacks would be apes giving birth to human babies as the mutant.

But it's not. Theme human life not time shifted removed to humans scientists thesis position. No human yet just apes.

Hence healthy life says a healthy human wants healthy human babies.

As apes want healthy highest ape babies.

By occult science destructive theologies scientists realised humans in science were theorising life does destruction as the human. Then began seeing animal biology unnaturally phenomena attacked.

Why theorising dead attacked biology as a scientist was outlawed in the human past. As it's happened before.

As the God earth sciences was human science chosen humans taught it was wrong. The theme bible always said men of science were wrong as they caused their own sin.

Sin K hole.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
If we come from monkeys.Why are monkeys not turning into humans still?:confused:

If we came from monkeys.Why doesn't someone make a machine that evolves stuff.And evolve a monkey into a human?
Is that a parody of creationists arguments, or the real thing?

Ciao

- viole
 

tas8831

Well-Known Member
It's been run by the federal government for many years.

Once it was fully broken the wreckage was turned over to the states. Now each state wrecks their own schools as local school boards assure no one can learn anything.
Tell us about the time you decided to grow a "broccas area" . Also, I am still waiting for the evidence that you have read and reported on every experiment ever done on speciation.
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
I think that the answer is that all of the other simians are reasonably well adapted to their own modes of life. That means that they are successful at what they do and aren't experiencing a whole lot of selective pressures.

I think not. The primary issue is whether or not the new species is sufficiently adapted to permit its perpetuation. As I've noted before: given descent with modification, evolution is a sieve, not a ladder.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
A human who wants God also claims I am the God.

Within me is everything.

When he tries to string every other type of body to his own. To build a God machine as God press the God button and still be God afterwards.

So his brother says you know a theist scientist is a liar.

He's only as old in biology human is as said.

Said by water mass being mass with little bodies in it...compared to water they aren't very old.

He also is from womans ovary first as a string thesis. If he went back in time his body would become a teenager a child a baby then nothing much.

Warned. He ignores you as he's God. He believes everything is linked inside his body as if all things live inside of his humans self.

He's got all powers in him so if he contacts it in biology he will then own a new resource.

His brother says that means you want to burn us up.

No he says I'll only react God in my machine not humans.

Is the mind status about the destroyer warning.
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
It uses precisely the same logic used by creationists when they say if humans evolved from apes (in in the poorly educated, monkeys) then why are there still apes.
Never heard a Creationist say that.
The first time I ever heard it was in this thread... from Atheists.
 
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