And how would one do that?
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I know who killed Jesus
- Thread starter IAMABELIEVER
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And how would one do that?
J Bryson
Well-Known Member
Which has yet to happen to my satisfaction. Fortunately, I find that certain fairytales can be very inspiring.
IAMABELIEVER
Member
But it is so much better when you know what you believe is real.
Trey of Diamonds
Well-Known Member
You mean subjective reality, right?
Trey of Diamonds
Well-Known Member
I do know what I believe, but you just said it was all fairytales. But I'm cool with that.
IAMABELIEVER
Member
This is how I did it.
So I say to you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 1 For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened". Luke 11:9-10
I've asked and it was never given. I've sought and never found. So, it may have worked for you, but I guess your god doesn't give everyone an equal opportunity.
IAMABELIEVER
Member
If what you believe is real it is truth for everyone whether they know it or not.
Trey of Diamonds
Well-Known Member
This is how I did it.
(knock knock)
Someone's knocking at the door (outside)
Somebody's ringing the bell (inside)
Someone's knocking at the door (outside)
Somebody's ringing the bell
It's an inside thing (open the door, open the door, open the door)
It's an inside thing (an inside thing)
like rides that only take the tall
The water running down the wall
Your nose is pressed against the glass
You left the club without a pass
They closed the door
You can't get in
I don't know where the hell you've been
This behaviour isn't great
Seems to me I'm always late
No matter what you have to say
It's always me that's gotta to pay
Your only just a kiss away
You left me here and yes
It's cold out here
So cold
When the night comes down
Always get so lonely here
In this old town
You gotta change the atmosphere
If I had wings
I'd fly my body out of here
Cause when you get the feeling
You need a little healing
You just need protection
Loving and affection
(that's all) Love and affection
Oh, Oh, Oh
There's a ghost outside the window
Oh, Oh , Oh
Don't know where he's been
Oh, Oh, Oh
When that old cold wind blows
Open the door and let'em in, oh yeah
Someone's knocking at the door (outside)
Somebody's ringing the bell (inside)
Someone's knocking at the door (outside)
Somebody's ringing the bell
It's an inside thing (open the door, open the door, open the door)
It's an inside thing
Some hearts are made of solid gold
And some are magic I've been told
But ever time that I've been kissed
I'm so aware of all the risks to take
But my bold heart is bare
Cause there's many things in there
Even when we are miles apart
It doesn't matter where we are
Cause you and I knew from the start
The answer lives within the heart
So why are you looking so suprised
You know where the truth survives
Spread your wings (spread your wings, let us sing)
When you see my face
Better look behind my eyes
Cause I don't show
Everything I feel inside
Sometimes boy
I've been known to wear disguise
When I get the feeling
I need a little healing
I might need protection
Loving and affection (love and affection)
Oh, Oh, Oh
Ghost outside the window
Oh, Oh , Oh
Don't know where he's been
Oh, Oh, Oh
When that old cold wind blows
Open the door, let'em in, oh yeah yeah
Someone's knocking at the door (outside)
Someone's ringing the bell (inside)
Someone's knocking at the door (outside)
Someone's ringing the bell
It's an inside thing (open the door, open the door, open the door)
It's an inside thing
Oh, no, no, babe
I ain't gonna ride
I ain't gonna run
No, no, no babe
I ain't gonna use a gun
You should know babe
When all is said and done
You could be the one
And maybe sometimes we could even have some fun
Oh yeah
Well if I knock knock on the door
You gotta let me in
And if I tap tap on the window
Even if it's in
I wanna hip hop all night
You know how old cool boo
With Paul Mac and Lulu
Shouting at the new school
Bringing in the new cools
For students that were tardy
So were fine
Bring your fellows
Cause were having a party
Outside it's getting funky
So let me bring
The moral here "Make it an inside thing"
Someone's knocking at the door (Outside)
Somebody's ringing the bell (inside)
Someone's knocking at the door (Outside)
Somebody's ringing the bell
It's an inside thing (open the door, open the door, open the door)
It's an inside thing
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Someone's knocking at the door door
(it's an inside thing)
Somebody's ringing the bell
Somebody's knocking at the door, now, now
Somebody's ringing the bell
Ring-ding-ding-ding-a-ding-ding-ding
Ringing the bell
That'll be him
Someone's Knocking At The Door
~ Paul McCartney
A
angellous_evangellous
Guest
Have you ever heard of intellectual honesty?
Is this important in the life of someone pretending to have any form of "morality?"
No, but it's real for you, not for everyone. It's not real for me, it's subjective reality. I'm sure it's not real for Buddhists or muslims either, therefore it's subjective reality.
IAMABELIEVER
Member
I know what you mean and it was that way for me too. When I first asked I didn't receice the answers I needed right away either. But what a miracle it is that someone like me was able to find what I was looking for. Keep seeking.
No, it wasn't right away. It was like 15 years.
A
angellous_evangellous
Guest
So how exactly is God's existence "established as fact."
Believing without any doubt is a completely different ball game. You can believe doubtlessly that something is a "fact" without it being "established as fact."
On that note, it's prehaps best to approach "established facts" as not requiring faith or belief at all. An established fact is not a "thing hoped for."
IAMABELIEVER
Member
Whether a person knows it or not it is a fact that partaking of too much Hemlock can kill you. That is real for everyone. There is a truth about God that is real for everyone also. The truth of Gods existence is real whether there is any morality or not.
IAMABELIEVER
Member
I was an atheist many years so I know what you mean. Keep seeking.
A
angellous_evangellous
Guest
The difference is that the fact that hemlock will kill people is established.
The existence of God is not. While Socrates was not defeated by the hemlock, the existence of God remains a complex, unsolved philosophical problem.
Simply saying that the truth of God is real for everyone does not make it so.
You don't get to define whats true or real for me, I do. Your belief is a subjective reality.
I'm done seeking, because I honestly don't think there is anything to seek. Well, anything supernatural that is.