I love this Muslima her ideas on Islam

[stvdv]

I mean she expected specific defenses and spoke of those outright beforehand. Often there was nothing more after those type of disagreements.

True.

That's what happens a lot. She had a few points about "human rights" which are violated in Islam, and where she was (undeniable) right. The interviewer just touches the subject, and then drops it. Sometimes I was missing the acknowledging "Yes, I agree" or "No, this is why not".

I liked her, she has the guts to speak out loud "this is plain wrong in Islam and Koran". And it's a big step forward, that Muslim men give Muslimas the opportunity to speak out loud. And now they have smelled freedom, they won't stop; as there is too much anger boiling by 1400 years of oppression

I just saw another interview with the same interviewer, other Muslima. This Muslima did not want to answer a question asked, because, as she said, it's not useful right now, as most Muslimas don't even agree with the basics I have said. Then the interviewer quickly said "let's do a poll":

*) Interviewer agrees with Muslima, and asks her "what are the solutions":
44m58s: Good question the interviewer asks. Do you have a 5 step plan to solve this injustice within Islam? Interesting interaction follows
45m33s: Interviewer, very smart move, suggests to do a quick poll. Almost all agree with "In Islam there is a lot wrong with women rights"

 

[stvdv]

Oh she is great. Recently she got married as well and i wish her the best.

She should have a little more understanding of the books she speaks of. I just wish she did.

At least she knows about "right and wrong", and has the guts to speak out loud, about quite a few essential things that are "wrong" in Islam

I find this much more important than "understanding minor grammar details in the Koran". First the big picture needs to get set straight

 

[Notanumber]

Such a parochial view.

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Aliens are more believable than gods are.

Aliens do not need to rely on humans as to whether they exist or not.

 

[Howard Is]

Aliens are more believable than gods are.

Aliens do not need to rely on humans as to whether they exist or not.

Maybe so.
You said that religion was a purely human thing.
That’s a big assumption.
If and when we are informed on the subject by intelligent non-humans, we will have a better idea.
There is more in heaven (space) and earth than in our philosophies, dear Notanumber.
By which I am not asserting that such information, if it affirmed a ubiquitous mystical inclination in higher life forms, would be proof of anything but that tendency itself.

 

[stvdv]

Aliens are more believable than gods are.

Aliens do not need to rely on humans as to whether they exist or not.

That is your opinion. My experience is, that "Gods" are more real than aliens.

 

[Notanumber]

That is your opinion. My experience is, that "Gods" are more real than aliens.

If aliens exist, it will not be reliant on the mindset of humans.

 

[Howard Is]

If aliens exist, it will not be reliant on the mindset of humans.

‘Reliant on’ has not been suggested.

Similar or dissimilar was under discussion.
I mentioned aliens with the musing on the possibility of extraterrestrial religion, and only in response to your remark that religion is only a human thing.
Obviously we don’t know whether aliens exist, or if they have anything like religion, assuming we could recognise it.

 

[Notanumber]

‘Reliant on’ has not been suggested.

Similar or dissimilar was under discussion.
I mentioned aliens with the musing on the possibility of extraterrestrial religion, and only in response to your remark that religion is only a human thing.
Obviously we don’t know whether aliens exist, or if they have anything like religion, assuming we could recognise it.

If we ever encounter aliens, it will be because they have a far superior intellect to ours, so it would be interesting to discover if they believe in god.

 

[firedragon]

At least she knows about "right and wrong", and has the guts to speak out loud, about quite a few essential things that are "wrong" in Islam

I find this much more important than "understanding minor grammar details in the Koran". First the big picture needs to get set straight

I agree.
Yet I feel it’s great if she had a little knowledge on the books.

 

[Shad]

True.

That's what happens a lot. She had a few points about "human rights" which are violated in Islam, and where she was (undeniable) right. The interviewer just touches the subject, and then drops it. Sometimes I was missing the acknowledging "Yes, I agree" or "No, this is why not".

There was that Iman? or religious scholar often shaking his head but was only brought into the discussion here and there. The camera directors and edits seem disconnected from the interview. We see disagreement but not content.

I liked her, she has the guts to speak out loud "this is plain wrong in Islam and Koran". And it's a big step forward, that Muslim men give Muslimas the opportunity to speak out loud. And now they have smelled freedom, they won't stop; as there is too much anger boiling by 1400 years of oppression

I heard about her years ago. She has been vocal about a lot of issues including some of the changes in Canada's mosques. Over the last two decades moderate mosques have been bought and changed by conservatives from overseas. Gender segregation started increasing with wall divides.

*) Interviewer agrees with Muslima, and asks her "what are the solutions":

44m58s: Good question the interviewer asks. Do you have a 5 step plan to solve this injustice within Islam? Interesting interaction follows
45m33s: Interviewer, very smart move, suggests to do a quick poll. Almost all agree with "In Islam there is a lot wrong with women rights"

I will comment after watching the whole video.

 

[Muffled]

I believe one may find a place of contentment within ones religion but only Jesus saves.

 

[Muffled]

One issue is speaking in terms of "Islam" as if it were a monolith like the Catholic Church. Islam is a very diverse religion as are all the other major traditional religions.

That written, I do agree that traditionalist and fanatical Muslims are fighting against the resurgence of ijtihad.

I do believe it is interesting to see that Islam can adapt to western culture.