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Going to MSNBC for the evening news is like going to an ice cream parlor for health food.
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I miss Walter Cronkite ...
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Pogo
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An agreeable opinion piece since my news link folder contains 8 of 10.
Pogo
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It is also unfortunately the most likely place you will find daily reports of Bibi's pacification efforts.
Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
The only two I have read are the guardian a traditional liberal leaning and owned paper. And the BBC who will sack journalists for crossing the line between news and opinion.
The Guardian makes it clear which is which, so no problem.
Most social media is one sided or biassed sometimes accurate and often not.
Such American news as I have read has always mixed opinion and news. As does their TV.
Copernicus
Industrial Strength Linguist
As a new junkie, I monitor all 10, although I stay outside of the NYT paywall. I also watch MSNBC, because I like ice cream for news junkies.
AP. In the old days when I read the newspaper, the articles identifying themselves as from the AP always caught my attention. I should seek them out now online.
Reuters. I find them fair and balanced and read them in rare occasion.
NPR. I don’t read NPR, but I listen to their radio programs fairly frequently. That said, I don’t think they qualify as unbiased. They are clearly left leaning which is somewhat troublesome for a public station.
BBC. My primary news source. I read them every day.
PBS News Hour. I’ve never watched or read PBS for news. Maybe I should start.
CBS news. I often turn to CBS during debates and on election night. Better than watching the paid for “news” programs on the right and left.
The Guardian. I read from time to time. They do good work.
The NYT. I read occasionally when there are free articles. I don’t pay for full access.
CNN. Not bad. I turn to them as well during debates and in election night.
NBC news. Gag.
Reuters. I find them fair and balanced and read them in rare occasion.
NPR. I don’t read NPR, but I listen to their radio programs fairly frequently. That said, I don’t think they qualify as unbiased. They are clearly left leaning which is somewhat troublesome for a public station.
BBC. My primary news source. I read them every day.
PBS News Hour. I’ve never watched or read PBS for news. Maybe I should start.
CBS news. I often turn to CBS during debates and on election night. Better than watching the paid for “news” programs on the right and left.
The Guardian. I read from time to time. They do good work.
The NYT. I read occasionally when there are free articles. I don’t pay for full access.
CNN. Not bad. I turn to them as well during debates and in election night.
NBC news. Gag.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Or like going to a health food store for ice cream.
That about describes me...
Copernicus
Industrial Strength Linguist
Going to Fox News for the evening news is like going to Jim Jones for a Kool Aid party.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
And that's why I don't go there.Going to Fox News for the evening news is like going to Jim Jones for a Kool Aid party.
All advertising or tax supported news outlets are part of a patronage system. At the end of the article is a list of sources we should stay away from, but I think most things in the top should also be in the list. An informed individual is educated and tracks the bills and executive decisions being made. These patronage supported news systems discourage it. They also cannot make up for the lack of informed people. The most they can provide is a description of current events, which they often neglect to do and instead focus upon thinking for us. That's what most of their talk is -- thinking for us. It is opinion or spin.
The article lists several of these as 'Most unbiased' which with the way it is set up is as dishonest as calling them 'Safe'. They are not.
I like NPR, sometimes, but the attitude at NPR is "Let us think for you, because we are good people!"
BBC defines what the UK citizens are to think on every topic of import. It is unsurprising given the class system in the UK. Its an example of a patronage system that believes it knows best.
Pogo
Well-Known Member
Please
give us a list of nonsupported sources neither by advertising or tax or donated money so we can compare their relevance and accuracy?
I merely pointed out that almost all listed were not subscriber supported. They had patrons -- patrons who favored a political party, favored an economic policy and favored various domestic policies. Hardly unbiased, but the article wanted to put them forward as 'Most unbiased'. Nothing could substitute for a person educating themselves, but these sources would discourage anyone from doing so. The patronage system tends to result in a patronizing attitude. "Our opinion is the best thing for you."
Pogo
Well-Known Member
What percentage of NPR is funded by the government?
NPR receives a small number of competitive grants from CPB and federal agencies like the Department of Education and the Department of Commerce. This funding amounts to less than 1% of revenues.
Now I ask again, what sources are not supported by external money?
How are you defining these sources and does the idea that Tucker Carlson is a subscription supported site improve his veracity?
NPR told us what to believe about various issues. So did the BBC. They picked a side. Tax funding should not be granted to people who tell us how to vote or which side of an issue is the correct one, and a journalist should be taught that in their state funded universities but for some reason aren't being taught that. Maybe we should cut funding for those kinds of degrees.
You want me to excuse NPR and BBC because they aren't Tucker Carlson? That is a low bar. He also can't be compared to Cronkite but only contrasted.
He didn't become famous using a subscription service but using advertising based services. Patrons brought him into the limelight until his lying finally created a lawsuit and liability so expensive that they couldn't use him.
But his current situation is news to me. Ok, so now he is subscription based? Well, lets wait and see. I think his ruined reputation precludes him becoming an honest journalist, so I don't think its a decent experiment. But we can wait and see if demand forces him to start fact checking his own scripts.
I'm Blocked but from reading through.
PBS is my favorite unbiased news source but tends to be boring, I'd watch it more if it had better newscasters. I also like the Foreign News agencies like the BBC views on our major events. They are biased though and tend view our events in the eyes of their political environment which is why I'll go to a few of them to get an unbiased average. Other than that I just make sure I get comparison points, I read Fox news about once a week, CNN and MSN are my alternating daily choices on TV I cycle through CBS, NBC, ABC and WPIX for local news. For TV viewing Fox News annoys me, It's like they think I'm an idiot all the time. The other channels only do it occasionally.