I need to get another car

[Trailblazer]

If the bashed-up vehicle is still perfectly drivable, would it be worth paying for repairs yourself, and keeping it? Obviously it depends on age/condition, and what other work might need to be done over the next few years.

I am going to wait and see what the insurance claims adjuster offers me and then decide what to do. It all depends upon how much they offer me for replacement of my vehicle. Meanwhile I am going to two other collision shops to get additional estimates.

 

[Truthseeker]

This is what I expect to hear from a Baha'i, but I do judge him and I don't feel sorry for him.
I guess I should have never become a Baha'i because I do not have the necessary virtues.
But I do not feel guilty about it anymore because I am tired of trying to be something I am not.

Sorry for trying to impose on you something you have evolved to yet!

 

[Trailblazer]

Sorry for trying to impose on you something you have evolved to yet!

I do not aspire to evolve to it so I won't. I don't see what you consider a virtue as a virtue.

 

[Truthseeker]

I do not aspire to evolve to it so I won't. I don't see what you consider a virtue as a virtue.

Really?

 

[Trailblazer]

Really?

Yes, really. I do not care about his sorry plight nor do I have any mercy. It is not justice to show mercy towards the person who is in the wrong. Mercy is for God to show this man if He so chooses. That is not my department.

The Baha'iTeachings.org article I got today is pertinent to this topic.

What to Do, Spiritually, with Your Anger

"We all get mad. Others hurt us, on purpose or by accident. Things don’t turn out our way, and our blood boils. This can make us react in ways we later regret – so what can we do about our anger?

The ancient Greek philosopher Aristotle believed in the necessity of anger – and in its usefulness. In his theory of virtue, anger can be virtuous if used appropriately and moderately. In Nicomachean Ethics, Aristotle wrote: “The man who is angry at the right things and with the right people, and, further, as he ought, when he ought, and as long as he ought, is praised.”

According to this perspective, a person could be justifiably angry at someone who has done him or her an injustice – or even more importantly, has perpetrated injustice in general.

A few centuries after Aristotle came Seneca, a Roman philosopher who begged to differ. Seneca believed that anger was never justified, and had no real use in a good life.

So what do Baha’is believe on this matter? It may surprise you to know that the Baha’i teachings seem to side with Aristotle. The reason, according to Abdul-Baha in his book Some Answered Questions, is that anger, like other emotions, is not intrinsically bad:

In the innate nature of things there is no evil — all is good. This applies even to certain apparently blameworthy attributes and dispositions which seem inherent in some people, but which are not in reality reprehensible. For example, you can see in a nursing child, from the beginning of its life, the signs of greed, of anger, and of ill temper; and so it might be argued that good and evil are innate in the reality of man, and that this is contrary to the pure goodness of the innate nature and of creation. The answer is that greed, which is to demand ever more, is a praiseworthy quality provided that it is displayed under the right circumstances. Thus, should a person show greed in acquiring science and knowledge, or in the exercise of compassion, high-mindedness, and justice, this would be most praiseworthy. And should he direct his anger and wrath against the bloodthirsty tyrants who are like ferocious beasts, this too would be most praiseworthy. But should he display these qualities under other conditions, this would be deserving of blame.

It follows therefore that in existence and creation there is no evil at all, but that when man’s innate qualities are used in an unlawful way, they become blameworthy.

From this perspective, anger itself is not inherently good or bad, but becomes so when used at a certain time, in a certain way. So according to Aristotle and Abdu’l-Baha, anger, if used appropriately, can be a noble quality.

To continue reading: https://bahaiteachings.org/what-to-do-spiritually-with-your-anger

 

[ppp]

I got rear-ended by an uninsured driver Thursday night and I am still angry, but what can I do? It is against the law to drive without insurance in this state but the officer did not even give him the $500 ticket he should have gotten because he gave her a sob story about how he was homeless. Fortunately I have good insurance and only a $250 deductible but my car was considered a total loss so the insurance won’t pay to repair it. Rather they will pay me whatever the market value of the vehicle is but I don’t know yet what that will be and I don’t know if that will be enough to buy another vehicle like the one I have. It is still perfectly drivable so I can drive it till I decide what to do.

A similar thing happened to me in 2015 when I had an accident that was not my fault. My 1995 Honda Odyssey was totaled by the insurance so I had to buy another vehicle and that is the one that just got rear-ended. I ended up with a 1999 Honda CR-V EX, which has been a better vehicle than I had before for my purposes so I am hoping I will be able to do that again in order to counterbalance all the hassle I will have to go through to get another vehicle.

The Honda CR-V EX is not easy to come by where I live. The only one I have seen that is in very good condition is a long drive from here and I don’t drive on the freeway anymore so the only way I could get it is if the owner will deliver it to me and I pay him.

I have enough money to buy a newer car or even a new car but I have no interest in a newer car. I just need a car to get around since I live far out in the country and I need a SUV since I have to cart around a lot of food for cats and birds and other wild animals that I feed. Other than grocery shopping and medical appointments I never go anywhere.

I am so angry that this happened. I hate car shopping!

Did you ever find a car? When I was purchasing I was torn between the CRV and the Subaru outback. I went with the outback. If you can't find the CRV, that might be an alternative for you.

 

[Trailblazer]

Did you ever find a car? When I was purchasing I was torn between the CRV and the Subaru outback. I went with the outback. If you can't find the CRV, that might be an alternative for you.

I am still waiting in the insurance claims adjuster to call me and tell me what my options are. They sent me an e-mail with what they planned to pay out on the total loss claim but it was incorrect, because they had $2500 as my deductible when it should have been $100 for uninsured motorist. I might keep my CRV if I can buy it from the insurance for a reasonable amount because it is perfectly drive-able. I just don't like the dent, but I might be able to get it repaired eventually cheaper than was estimated at the collision shop I went to.

If I do get another vehicle it will have to be a CRV because I love the CRV and I would never have any car but a Honda. The problem is that I won't probably find a CRV locally and I do not drive on the freeway anymore so I cannot drive to Seattle or Portland where they are for sale. There are some dealers closer but I would never buy a car from a dealer, only from a private party.

What I decide to do will all depend upon what I find out from the insurance company, hopefully tomorrow.
I will post what I find out on this thread.

 

[ppp]

I am still waiting in the insurance claims adjuster to call me and tell me what my options are. They sent me an e-mail with what they planned to pay out on the total loss claim but it was incorrect, because they had $2500 as my deductible when it should have been $100 for uninsured motorist. I might keep my CRV if I can buy it from the insurance for a reasonable amount because it is perfectly drive-able. I just don't like the dent, but I might be able to get it repaired eventually cheaper than was estimated at the collision shop I went to.

If I do get another vehicle it will have to be a CRV because I love the CRV and I would never have any car but a Honda. The problem is that I won't probably find a CRV locally and I do not drive on the freeway anymore so I cannot drive to Seattle or Portland where they are for sale. There are some dealers closer but I would never buy a car from a dealer, only from a private party.

What I decide to do will all depend upon what I find out from the insurance company, hopefully tomorrow.
I will post what I find out on this thread.

Oh wow. I didn't know that the insurance company took the car. If they totaled it. Well that's BS.
Best of luck to you tomorrow!

I just bought a house yesterday. I am toggling between. This is so cool! And what the hell have I done?

 

[Truthseeker]

Yes, really. I do not care about his sorry plight nor do I have any mercy. It is not justice to show mercy towards the person who is in the wrong. Mercy is for God to show this man if He so chooses. That is not my department.

The Baha'iTeachings.org article I got today is pertinent to this topic.

What to Do, Spiritually, with Your Anger

"We all get mad. Others hurt us, on purpose or by accident. Things don’t turn out our way, and our blood boils. This can make us react in ways we later regret – so what can we do about our anger?

The ancient Greek philosopher Aristotle believed in the necessity of anger – and in its usefulness. In his theory of virtue, anger can be virtuous if used appropriately and moderately. In Nicomachean Ethics, Aristotle wrote: “The man who is angry at the right things and with the right people, and, further, as he ought, when he ought, and as long as he ought, is praised.”

According to this perspective, a person could be justifiably angry at someone who has done him or her an injustice – or even more importantly, has perpetrated injustice in general.

A few centuries after Aristotle came Seneca, a Roman philosopher who begged to differ. Seneca believed that anger was never justified, and had no real use in a good life.

So what do Baha’is believe on this matter? It may surprise you to know that the Baha’i teachings seem to side with Aristotle. The reason, according to Abdul-Baha in his book Some Answered Questions, is that anger, like other emotions, is not intrinsically bad:

In the innate nature of things there is no evil — all is good. This applies even to certain apparently blameworthy attributes and dispositions which seem inherent in some people, but which are not in reality reprehensible. For example, you can see in a nursing child, from the beginning of its life, the signs of greed, of anger, and of ill temper; and so it might be argued that good and evil are innate in the reality of man, and that this is contrary to the pure goodness of the innate nature and of creation. The answer is that greed, which is to demand ever more, is a praiseworthy quality provided that it is displayed under the right circumstances. Thus, should a person show greed in acquiring science and knowledge, or in the exercise of compassion, high-mindedness, and justice, this would be most praiseworthy. And should he direct his anger and wrath against the bloodthirsty tyrants who are like ferocious beasts, this too would be most praiseworthy. But should he display these qualities under other conditions, this would be deserving of blame.

It follows therefore that in existence and creation there is no evil at all, but that when man’s innate qualities are used in an unlawful way, they become blameworthy.

From this perspective, anger itself is not inherently good or bad, but becomes so when used at a certain time, in a certain way. So according to Aristotle and Abdu’l-Baha, anger, if used appropriately, can be a noble quality.

To continue reading: https://bahaiteachings.org/what-to-do-spiritually-with-your-anger

You can be righteously angry with an injustice and at the same time forgive that person, at least eventually.

If someone commits an error and wrong toward you, you must instantly forgive him.
(The Promulgation of Universal Peace)
www.bahai.org/r/864288420

I do have a little problem with "must", but it's possible there's a problem with the translation. Remember this publication is a series of oral talks instantly translated by a translator, then it has to be remembered afterwards. So every word does have the authenticity, of, say, "Selections of the Writings of 'Abdu'l-Baha". In any case none of us can live up to this standard. I hope you can eventually forgive this person. This forgiveness is not something that helps that person in any way, it helps you heal emotionally.

Sara forgave that person in Kettering I told you about, and it helped her a lot. It's hard to tell if that that offensive person has changed very much.

 

[amorphous_constellation]

I'm glad you're OK, but I also feel sorry for that guy. Society is sorta collapsing with inflation and no rent control etc. I might even end living in my car at some point

 

[Trailblazer]

You can be righteously angry with an injustice and at the same time forgive that person, at least eventually.

If someone commits an error and wrong toward you, you must instantly forgive him.
(The Promulgation of Universal Peace)
www.bahai.org/r/864288420

Instantly forgive him? Sorry Duane, I don't care what Abdu'l-Baha says. I have no desire to forgive him.
Sometimes I just hate religion. All it does is make me feel bad about myself.

 

[ppp]

Instantly forgive him? Sorry Duane, I don't care what Abdu'l-Baha says. I have no desire to forgive him.
Sometimes I just hate religion. All it does is make me feel bad about myself.

I'm not sure how to ask this without sounding like I'm proselytizing. But I'll ask it straight out. What makes you stay?

 

[Trailblazer]

I'm not sure how to ask this without sounding like I'm proselytizing. But I'll ask it straight out. What makes you stay?

and I will answer that question straight out.... I know that God exists and I know that the Baha'i Faith is the religion for this new age. I not only believe, I know.
A person does not always LIKE what they know is true.
If you knew that a mack truck was going to hit you if you stood out in the middle of the road would you LIKE that?
You probably would not LIKE knowing that but knowing that you would get out of the road.

 

[ppp]

and I will answer that question straight out.... I know that God exists and I know that the Baha'i Faith is the religion for this new age. I not only believe, I know.
A person does not always LIKE what they know is true.

Fair enough.

If you knew that a mack truck was going to hit you if you stood out in the middle of the road would you LIKE that?
You probably would not LIKE knowing that but knowing that you would get out of the road.

That's true. But if the driver was trying to hit me. I would work against him. In a real world example, for where abortion becomes illegal in the United States, I am reasonably sure underground railroads will pop up where they are needed with funding from a significant portion of the population. It may be a real Mac truck and it may be inevitable, but a lot of people think that it's worthwhile to spike the tires.

 

[Trailblazer]

That's true. But if the driver was trying to hit me. I would work against him.

It may be a real Mac truck and it may be inevitable, but a lot of people think that it's worthwhile to spike the tires.

Please let me know how I can WORK AGAINST an omnipotent God.
How can I spike God's tires?

 

[ppp]

Please let me know how I can WORK AGAINST an omnipotent God.
How can I spike God's tires?

That's easy. Work against the people who are working for him and promoting his agenda. As Gandhi said, Be the spike that you want to see in the world.

 

[Trailblazer]

That's easy. Work against the people who are working for him and promoting his agenda. As Gandhi said, Be the spike that you want to see in the world.

Why would I want to work against the people who are working for God and promoting his agenda, if I believe that the agenda is God's agenda that is going to bring about what I want to see in the world?

 

[ppp]

Why would I want to work against the people who are working for God and promoting his agenda, if I believe that the agenda is God's agenda that is going to bring about what I want to see in the world?

Ah. so you agree with the boss's agenda, you just don't like the boss.

 

[Trailblazer]

Ah. so you agree with the boss's agenda, you just don't like the boss.

Yeah, something like that.

 

[Curious George]

Actually, what they give you is negotiable. You can demand that they give you a car in the same condition as you had, (if I am not mistaken) and then negotiate or "I will get a lawyer". Then they really negotiate.

I'm glad you are fine.

@Trailblazer
^^ this

Do research and look for cars in your area with similar mileage of the same make and model. Definitely do not take their first offer. Give them a counter offer and share the websites/screenshots of cars you found.

Your insurance company should be offering two quotes, one if you sign your vehicle over for salvage and one if you keep your vehicle.

So, depending on who you know, and the damage to your car you could get a better salvage rate than the one your insurance is offering.

Of you happen to have the space and time, you can surely part out your vehicle for much more than they will give you for salvage...especially since you were rear ended.

So, you could definitely walk away in a better position car-wise. But being in an accident where your car is totaled especially rear ended is not fun body wise. Take care of yourself