i saw an equation in my dreams lastnight! opinions?

[sandy whitelinger]

If you have one pencil, and I take it, break it in half, and sharpen both ends of each piece, how many pencils do you have?

No...must ...not...think...

 

[sandy whitelinger]

Im telling the truth.

That you had a dream... where all integers were created equal (except zero of course).

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

It has errors. 0 is really just -1. There is no nuetral. O isnt anything except a place holder, and an equation when the number ends with 0. 0 cant support itself. Its litterally...i mean LITTERALLY non-existant. Its tought incorrect.

So there are zero zeros, meaning that there actually is a zero?


Another perspective:

There's only two digits - zero and number one
But some get fooled by counting bullets in a gun

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[sandy whitelinger]

Mathematically? So far, im right with the given senerios.

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[sandy whitelinger]

Zero is not a thing, but that doesn't mean we don't make good use of it. Especially in our maths.

Actually zero is a thing. It has properties.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

5+(-7)=-2 thats the old way. The wrong way.

5+(-7)=-1 thats correct.

I want you to talk to my credit card company.

 

[Willamena]

Actually zero is a thing. It has properties.

What are its properties?

 

[Kilgore Trout]

If i had 500 pencils, and i gave them all away. I have -500 pencils.

So, if I have 500 pencils and give them all away, I'm left with -500 pencils. So, if somebody gives me a pencil, I now have -499 pencils.

Useful stuff.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

What are its properties?

Why, the addition property and the multiplication property, of course!

 

[sandy whitelinger]

What are its properties?

Seriously though. One of it's properties is it's indivisable.

 

[ladybug77]

So, if I have 500 pencils and give them all away, I'm left with -500 pencils. So, if somebody gives me a pencil, I now have -499 pencils.

Useful stuff.

Thats right

 

[adi2d]

I'm not sure if one is the only number but I have heard that one is the loneliest number

I think it was the group one dog night three times

 

[ladybug77]

If - 1/2 + 1 = 1, and - 1 + 1 = 1, then - 1/2 = - 1.

If x + 1 = 1, and y + 1 = 1, then x = y.

Correct. Because we are looking at the 1/2 as it being a complete whole.

You can dig a hole in the ground...but even the smallest hole is never half a hole. Its a hole.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Thats right

So when do I start counting how many pencils I have?

If I get 10 pencils when I'm 8 and use them all, then I have -10 pencils. Three years later I get 5 pencils, so I now have -5 pencils. I use 2 of them, so I have -7 pencils. Two years later, I get a pack of 20 pencils, so I now have 14(?) pencils? Seems difficult to keep track of exactly how many negative or positive pencils I have over the course of my lifetime. Or does your fantasy math have some kind of expiration date on how many pencils you have?

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Correct. Because we are looking at the 1/2 as it being a complete whole.

So half a pie is the exact same amount as a whole pie. Interesting stuff.

 

[Koldo]

Correct. Because we are looking at the 1/2 as it being a complete whole.

You can dig a hole in the ground...but even the smallest hole is never half a hole. Its a hole.

In other words, only integers exist ( except for zero ).

 

[sandy whitelinger]

So half a pie is the exact same amount as a whole pie. Interesting stuff.

A whole pie is one thing and half a pie is also one thing ergo half a pie equal a whole pie. I don't know why you cannot see that.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

A whole pie is one thing and half a pie is also one thing ergo half a pie equal a whole pie. I don't know why you cannot see that.

I'm obviously blinded by my indoctrination to false math. Damn you zero, and the way you've blinded me with your usefulness for solving everyday math problems!

 

[sandy whitelinger]

Basically, Ladybug, you had an epiphany about a mathmatical system that dates back to the Egyptians. Now, take another nap and have a dream you are in India and will have another epiphany.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

I'm obviously blinded by my indoctrination to false math. Damn you zero, and the way you've blinded me with your usefulness for solving everyday math problems!

You don't need any pie anyway. I'll eat your half.