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I thank all the imaginary gods for Jihadists.

Greatest I am

Well-Known Member
I thank all the imaginary gods for Jihadists.

First: People must recognize that this quote is irrefutable.

Candide. "It is demonstrable that things cannot be otherwise, than as they are; for as all things have been created for some end, they must necessarily be created for the best end.”


Jihadists are bringing liberal and conservatives who dislike war and terrorism together.

Jihadists, like the older fundamental right wings of Christianity, are teaching wiser and more moral secular forces that we need to control our love of drama and war as the epitome of evil. History shows that secular forces had to bring Christianity to heel, and learning from history, secular forces know that Islam, like Christianity was, must also be brought to heel.


War is God. To conquer our love of drama and war, secular forces must conquer Allah just as we did Yahweh. Jihadists are teaching us this valuable lesson.

Jihadist are inadvertently sowing the seeds of thought that will, perhaps for the final time, awaken in secular hearts, the reality of the fact that religions must never rule and that only secular forces can bring the world to any lasting peace. Jihadists are thus, in the longer range picture, going to destroy all the war mongering religions that follow imaginary gods that have plagued freedom loving people forever.

For this great service to mankind, I thank all the imaginary gods for Jihadists.

Do you see the longer range picture of Jihadists helping secular forces solve the problem of war by ending the world’s belief in imaginary Gods?

Do you, in light of this valuable lesson, also thank all the imaginary gods for hateful Jihadists?

Regards
DL
 

Buttercup

Veteran Member
Do you see the longer range picture of Jihadists helping secular forces solve the problem of war by ending the world’s belief in imaginary Gods?
There will probably never come a time when some people don't believe in an imaginary God. Even if religion was outlawed, people would worship in secret. What I see is martial law or a police state existence coming into play if this violence keeps up. We all may lose a large percentage of the freedoms we currently enjoy just to keep the peace.

Do you, in light of this valuable lesson, also thank all the imaginary gods for hateful Jihadists?
No. And I think you're a little off kilter for even suggesting the notion.
 
only secular forces can bring the world to any lasting peace

Europe in the 20th C being the greatest example of the pacifying effects of secularism.

Do you see the longer range picture of Jihadists helping secular forces solve the problem of war by ending the world’s belief in imaginary Gods?

Ending 'belief in imaginary gods' would no more solve the problem of war than ending McDonalds would solve the problem of obesity.

Historically, religion is not a major cause of war, and anyway, it's replacements have frequently proved to be more violent. War is just a normal part of the human condition and will always be so.

To end war, you need to end humans. We'll probably achieve that sooner or later though, so at least that's something to look forward to.
 

Greatest I am

Well-Known Member
There will probably never come a time when some people don't believe in an imaginary God. Even if religion was outlawed, people would worship in secret. What I see is martial law or a police state existence coming into play if this violence keeps up. We all may lose a large percentage of the freedoms we currently enjoy just to keep the peace.

No. And I think you're a little off kilter for even suggesting the notion.

I think that outlawing all religions with imaginary gods would be a good idea as they, like Christianity did and Islam, seem to mostly use violence to grow their religions instead of using goo deeds.

One of the many Jesus' was a pacifist who said that we should all closet ourselves to pray.

I think both Christianity and Islam should follow what they hear Jesus saying. Then again, they do not do as he preached anyway.

Regards
DL
 

Greatest I am

Well-Known Member
Europe in the 20th C being the greatest example of the pacifying effects of secularism.



Ending 'belief in imaginary gods' would no more solve the problem of war than ending McDonalds would solve the problem of obesity.

Historically, religion is not a major cause of war, and anyway, it's replacements have frequently proved to be more violent. War is just a normal part of the human condition and will always be so.

To end war, you need to end humans. We'll probably achieve that sooner or later though, so at least that's something to look forward to.

I do not agree but that is not surprising since you foolishly say that religions are not a major cause of war.

Only in fairly recent times have the religious not been the vast majority and for you to try to blame the small minority for being the cause of most wars is to have blinders on.

Regards
DL
 
I do not agree but that is not surprising since you foolishly say that religions are not a major cause of war.

What percentage of wars would you guess have been about religion?

Only in fairly recent times have the religious not been the vast majority and for you to try to blame the small minority for being the cause of most wars is to have blinders on.

Small minority?? I blame humans and their nature for being the cause of war.

I was just pointing out your argument is emotional, not based on any kind of evidence. If you are going to call religions irrational, you should make sure your own arguments are based on slightly firmer ground.

There is no evidence that secularism makes nations less violent. If you have some, please put it on the table.

That war can be ended, especially that ending religion would do so, is pie in the sky fantasy. Pure irrationality.
 
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