And when the Abrahamic god instructs to murder or rape i wouldn't call that concern or loving for the victims.
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I want to believe
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And when the Abrahamic god instructs to murder or rape i wouldn't call that concern or loving for the victims.
There always was a execution for the sake of justice for the righteous. No command to rape.
Execution is Not murder. We can't read hearts but God knows when people reach the point of no returning to righteousness.
Thus the coming war to end all wars (Psalm 46:9) brings justice for the righteous or humble meek people - Psalm 37:9-11,38.
paarsurrey
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One is welcome to believe with reason using the tool of "Religious Method" of claim and reason/argument given by One-Gd himself, right?I want to believe in a concerned, loving, and personal God
But my faith in such an entity has been totally shattered, and this has saddened me greatly
It feels as though a close friend has died
Everything feels bleak
The thing I believe in feels cold, distant, and disinterested in me
So, I'm asking......
Are there any good reasons to believe in a concerned, loving, and personal God?
Bearing in mind that I no longer accept scripture as authoritative
I'm pretty certain that there aren't
Regards
paarsurrey
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I don't think atheist-materialism is the answer either given the paranormal/spiritual experiences of man. I found peace in Eastern/Hindu nondualism meaning God and creation are not-two and reincarnation. God/Brahman separates Himself from Himself in Act I. He returns Himself to Himself in Act II. Why: To ExperienceI want to believe in a concerned, loving, and personal God
But my faith in such an entity has been totally shattered, and this has saddened me greatly
It feels as though a close friend has died
Everything feels bleak
The thing I believe in feels cold, distant, and disinterested in me
So, I'm asking......
Are there any good reasons to believe in a concerned, loving, and personal God?
Bearing in mind that I no longer accept scripture as authoritative
I'm pretty certain that there aren't
Whateverist
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Neither would I. Nothing attracts me to the Bible but I agree with @Rival that whatever it is we mean by God can be viewed as loving or at least relational though I don’t think it id at all transactional.
Murder is murder. Who gave the command to execute? For what heinous act was the command given?
And of course the flood where god commits genocide on a global scale
Are you saying god made a mistake in his design giving them the will to not worship him, then killed them for it?
Judges 21:10-12, are you telling me 400 captured virgins were nor raped?
Or Numbers 31:31-40 where 32000 virgins were taken as booty
paarsurrey
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Gd never claimed to be author of the NT-Bible, please, right?
NT-Bible has so many contradictions, won't it be therefore an accusation against Him that He has authored it, please, right?
Regards
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Hmm. Do you want reasons that other people would approve of, or do you want reasons that are satisfactory to you only?
I second this. Being open is essential on one’s spiritual journey.
It's OK, crisis resolved!
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I am now a Pantheist
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I would only want to believe in things that would also make sense to other people
If a thing only made sense to me then I would take that as a sign that something was wrong with me
Trailblazer
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That is a tough one. I don't think there are any good reasons to believe in such a God, not unless you accept scripture as authoritative.
I believe in a concerned, loving, and personal God because I believe the Baha'i scripture is authoritative, but I do struggle with believing that God is loving, given all the suffering in this world.
I've now found spiritual happiness in Pantheism!That is a tough one. I don't think there are any good reasons to believe in such a God, not unless you accept scripture as authoritative.
I believe in a concerned, loving, and personal God because I believe the Baha'i scripture is authoritative, but I do struggle with believing that God is loving, given all the suffering in this world.
I like the God of Pantheism, and it is not at all based on scripture
Trailblazer
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Not the OT God, but maybe the NT God.
Trailblazer
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I am happy for you. I am not big on scripture either, but I do believe that what it says about God is true, in spite of my personal feelings about God.
Trailblazer
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Good point. Scripture certainly hasn't helped me to believe in a loving God....
I think that is a belief that has to come from within. I'm still waiting.
Trailblazer
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I once told an atheist to do that. He is now a believer.
Evidence, pevidence.... that just is not going to work for atheists.
Trailblazer
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or the NT-Bible for that matter.
Why?
To me Bible, life and this world as explained in the Bible are good reason to believe. But, I think more important would be to understand.
Are you keeping anything as authoritative? Why?
Same god i believe. Though of course you can make your own rules up as suits you