The Pagans and Jews had spiritual cleansing baptism with water before the Christians.
Eze 36:23 And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I
am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when
I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.
Eze 36:24 For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.
Eze 36:25 Then will
I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
The Jews were baptizing with water before the Christians, and of course Jesus the Jew was baptized by John the Jew - before Christianity became a religion.
Jesus was JEWISH and says to baptize but gives no age.
The oldest known church, The Roman Catholic Church, taught infant baptism to free from original sin.
The Eastern Orthodox split from Roman Catholicism didn't happen until A.D. 1054. “The Great Schism”
Protestants A.D. 1523
Irenaeus, c. A.D. 185: "He came to save all through means of Himself—all … who through Him are
born again to God—
infants, and children, and boys, and youths, and old men. He therefore passed through every age,
becoming an infant for infants, thus sanctifying infants; a child for children, thus sanctifying those who are of this age, being at the same time made to them an example of piety, righteousness, and submission …" (
Against Heresies II:22:4)
"But the prophets, who have given some wise suggestions on the subject of things produced by generation,
tell us that a sacrifice for sin was offered even for newborn infants, as not being free from sin. They say, "I was shapen in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me;"
Ps. 51:5 also, "They are estranged from the womb;" which is followed by the singular expression, "They go astray as soon as they are born, speaking lies." Ps. 58:3 (Origen,
Against Celsus VII:50, c. A.D. 225)"
Gen 17:10 This is My covenant, which ye shall keep, between Me and you and thy seed after thee: every male among you shall be circumcised. 11 And ye shall be circumcised in the flesh of your foreskin;
and it shall be a token of a covenant betwixt Me and you. 12 And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every male throughout your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any foreigner, that is not of thy seed.
"Memory of this tradition has been preserved in traditional Christian churches according to the
Gospel of Luke.
[3][4] The
Feast of the Circumcision of Christ is kept as a feast eight days after
Nativity in a number of churches including the
Eastern Orthodox Church,
Catholic Church,
Lutheran and some
Anglican Communion churches.
[5] In Orthodox Christian tradition, children are officially named on the eighth day after birth with special naming prayers.
[6][7]
Significantly,
the tradition of baptism universally replaced circumcision amongst Christians as the primary
rite of passage as found in
Paul's Epistle to the Colossians and in
Acts of the Apostles.
[8]" Brit milah - Wikipedia
Col 2:11 In whom also
ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
Col 2:12 Buried
with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with
him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
Jesus and first disciples were Jews and the circumcision was at eight days old.
This is where the earliest church gets the idea of infant baptism.
Another holdover from Jewish circumcision - now baptism by water in the Roman Catholic church -- Godparents.
"The title of
kvater (male) or
kvaterin (female) among
Ashkenazi Jews is for the person who carries the baby from the mother to the father, who in turn carries him to the
mohel. This honor is usually given to a couple without children, as a merit or
segula (efficacious remedy) that they should have children of their own. The origin of the term is
Middle High German gevater(e) ("godfather").
[21] Brit milah - Wikipedia
Ask any Jewish member on this site about Satan.
Satan is a servant of YHVH. He is NOT an autonomous evil being - as Christianity later turned him into.
His job is to put stumbling-blocks in peoples paths to see if they stay on God's path; and if not - he brings them before YHVH to condemn them = God's prosecuting attorney.
Zec 3:1 And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD, and
Satan standing at his right hand to accuse him.
Psa 109:6 Set thou a wicked man over him: and
let Satan stand at his right hand. Psa 109:7
When he shall be judged, let him be condemned: and let his prayer become sin.
Christians decided the serpent in Genesis was Satan - even though the text says the serpent was condemned to be a serpent crawling on the ground tasting dust for the rest of his life.
Gen 3:14 And the YHVH Elohiym said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou
art cursed above all cattle, and above every
beast of the field;
upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
Christians decided Isaiah 14 - a verse about the fall of a King and kingdom of Babylon - was actually about Satan as "Lucifer", which it obviously isn't. It tells us this is a MAN and says it is the King of Babylon.
Isa 14:4 That thou shalt take up this proverb against
the king of Babylon, and say,
How hath the oppressor failed! the golden city failed!
Isa 14:16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this
the man that made the earth to tremble,
that did shake kingdoms;
Christians have come up with things that are NOT in Tanakh, and run with them, claiming they are there.
You don't think telling him baptizing his child into Satanism (which baptism you claim doesn't exist,) might lead to demonic possession, and his child killing him, isn't ridiculous?
Babies are innocent, - and baptizing them into ANY religion, - does not make them part of that religion, nor imply they will be possessed.
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