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I Was Forced To Install Windows 10

Aupmanyav

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However.... note that this question above was answered in 2014. I am not sure that 'apt-get install' will be able to locate all the 32bit dependencies it needs while install virtualbox. There is a workaround for this. Let me know if apt-get produces errors while installing?
I am in no hurry. I will study the information that you have provided and do it at my pace. I have Mint, Sparky, Lubuntu 16 and 19 (if I so desire) on my HDD. I had read an article by Manu Jarvinen about installing Fedora/Solus on the hard disk. He mentioned about another Boot-Esp partition. I already have that on my computer (1 GB). Tried it once and failed (Oh! When has that stopped me from experimenting. I have erased many a C:// drives in my working life in the office), I want to try that once again. I am sort of Enfant terrible with the computer. :D
 

dybmh

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I am in no hurry. I will study the information that you have provided and do it at my pace. I have Mint, Sparky, Lubuntu 16 and 19 (if I so desire) on my HDD. I had read an article by Manu Jarvinen about installing Fedora/Solus on the hard disk. He mentioned about another Boot-Esp partition. I already have that on my computer (1 GB). Tried it once and failed (Oh! When has that stopped me from experimenting. I have erased many a C:// drives in my working life in the office), I want to try that once again. I am sort of Enfant terrible with the computer. :D
Yes, the partitioning is going to be tricky without virtual-machines

Have you checked the specs on your CPU? That's what I want to know.

hint: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep 'model name' | sort -u
 

Aupmanyav

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Yeah, I did the cat bit. Perhaps my computer is 64 bit. Here is the result of your query:
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2120 CPU @ 3.30GHz

System: Host: amarnath-ThinkCentre-M71z Kernel: 5.0.0-37-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
v: 7.4.0 Desktop: Cinnamon 4.4.8 wm: muffin dm: LightDM Distro: Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia
base: Ubuntu 18.04 bionic
Machine: Type: Desktop System: LENOVO product: 1782RK4 v: ThinkCentre M71z serial: <filter>
Mobo: LENOVO model: N/A serial: <filter> BIOS: LENOVO v: 9PKT28AUS date: 05/21/2012
CPU: Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i3-2120 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Sandy Bridge
rev: 7 L2 cache: 3072 KiB
flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 26340
Speed: 3293 MHz min/max: 1600/3300 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 3293 2: 3293 3: 3292
4: 3293
Network: Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Lenovo
driver: r8169 v: kernel port: e000 bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 10ec:8168
IF: enp1s0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives: Local Storage: total: 298.09 GiB used: 16.26 GiB (5.5%)
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST320DM000-1BD14C size: 298.09 GiB
speed: 3.0 Gb/s serial: <filter>
Partition: ID-1: / size: 9.10 GiB used: 5.79 GiB (63.6%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda7
ID-2: /home size: 18.21 GiB used: 2.20 GiB (12.1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda8
ID-3: swap-1 size: 9.77 GiB used: 4.0 MiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda3
USB: Hub: 1-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 2 rev: 2.0 chip ID: 1d6b:0002
Hub: 1-1:2 info: Intel Integrated Rate Matching Hub ports: 4 rev: 2.0
chip ID: 8087:0024
Device-1: 1-1.2:3 info: Hewlett-Packard type: <vendor specific> driver: usblp rev: 2.0
chip ID: 03f0:7811
Device-2: 1-1.3:4 info: N/A type: Keyboard,HID driver: hid-generic,usbhid rev: 1.1
chip ID: 2a7a:938f
Hub: 2-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 2 rev: 2.0 chip ID: 1d6b:0002
Hub: 2-1:2 info: Intel Integrated Rate Matching Hub ports: 6 rev: 2.0
chip ID: 8087:0024
Device-3: 2-1.4:3 info: SiGma Micro type: Mouse driver: hid-generic,usbhid rev: 1.1
chip ID: 1c4f:0034
Info: Processes: 188 Uptime: 1h 23m Memory: 3.70 GiB used: 1.85 GiB (50.0%) Init: systemd
v: 237 runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 7.4.0 alt: 7 Client: Unknown python3.6 client
inxi: 3.0.32
 

dybmh

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Yeah, I did the cat bit. Perhaps my computer is 64 bit. Here is the result of your query:
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2120 CPU @ 3.30GHz

System: Host: amarnath-ThinkCentre-M71z Kernel: 5.0.0-37-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
v: 7.4.0 Desktop: Cinnamon 4.4.8 wm: muffin dm: LightDM Distro: Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia
base: Ubuntu 18.04 bionic
Machine: Type: Desktop System: LENOVO product: 1782RK4 v: ThinkCentre M71z serial: <filter>
Mobo: LENOVO model: N/A serial: <filter> BIOS: LENOVO v: 9PKT28AUS date: 05/21/2012
CPU: Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i3-2120 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Sandy Bridge
rev: 7 L2 cache: 3072 KiB
flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 26340
Speed: 3293 MHz min/max: 1600/3300 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 3293 2: 3293 3: 3292
4: 3293
Network: Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Lenovo
driver: r8169 v: kernel port: e000 bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 10ec:8168
IF: enp1s0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives: Local Storage: total: 298.09 GiB used: 16.26 GiB (5.5%)
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST320DM000-1BD14C size: 298.09 GiB
speed: 3.0 Gb/s serial: <filter>
Partition: ID-1: / size: 9.10 GiB used: 5.79 GiB (63.6%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda7
ID-2: /home size: 18.21 GiB used: 2.20 GiB (12.1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda8
ID-3: swap-1 size: 9.77 GiB used: 4.0 MiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda3
USB: Hub: 1-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 2 rev: 2.0 chip ID: 1d6b:0002
Hub: 1-1:2 info: Intel Integrated Rate Matching Hub ports: 4 rev: 2.0
chip ID: 8087:0024
Device-1: 1-1.2:3 info: Hewlett-Packard type: <vendor specific> driver: usblp rev: 2.0
chip ID: 03f0:7811
Device-2: 1-1.3:4 info: N/A type: Keyboard,HID driver: hid-generic,usbhid rev: 1.1
chip ID: 2a7a:938f
Hub: 2-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 2 rev: 2.0 chip ID: 1d6b:0002
Hub: 2-1:2 info: Intel Integrated Rate Matching Hub ports: 6 rev: 2.0
chip ID: 8087:0024
Device-3: 2-1.4:3 info: SiGma Micro type: Mouse driver: hid-generic,usbhid rev: 1.1
chip ID: 1c4f:0034
Info: Processes: 188 Uptime: 1h 23m Memory: 3.70 GiB used: 1.85 GiB (50.0%) Init: systemd
v: 237 runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 7.4.0 alt: 7 Client: Unknown python3.6 client
inxi: 3.0.32
Based on this I would expect that you can use a 64bit version of Lubuntu. What happens if you boot to a USB with the latest desktop ISO for Lubuntu 64bit? Can you run it live without installing?
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
I upgraded from XP to W7 last year or so

I think for the next few years I'll be fine.

Windows 7 is great. My laptop came with Windows 10, but I put on W7; I like it so much better. At least I am not spied upon by microsoft as much as with W10.

What they accuse Huawei of they do themselves I think.
Thanks.... I think I will keep W7 running on all three of my computers. :D
We finally got upgraded to W10 at work and it's okay, but I like W7 better.
 

dybmh

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@Aupmanyav ,

OK. The Hardware Virtualization is a setting in the BIOS that needs to be enabled in order to run 64bit guest OS on 32 bit host. However... your previous linux distros that are currently installed may not boot if this setting is changed.

So, to be clear:

Enabling the Hardware Virtualization after an OS is installed might be a problem. But you can always turn it back off and the OS should boot normally again.

Here's a link that describes where this setting is on your laptop.

hyperlink >>> support.lenovo.com - How to enable Virtualization Technology (VT-X)

Here's 2 links describing the symptoms of not being able to boot after enabling the HW virtualization:

hyperlink >>> ubuntuforums.com - Ubuntu won't boot when Virtualization Technology is enabled in my BIOS
hyperlink >>> bbs.archlinux.org - Stuck on boot after enabling Intel VT-d in Bios / Laptop Issues / Arch Linux Forums

edit to add: I'm not able to get Lubuntu 16.04 LTS 32bit to boot at all while Hardware Virtualization is enabled. It installs fine... but won't boot. This could be the roadblock. I don't think it will work. I would recommend trying to get the Lubuntu 64bit to run on your laptop and then try again to get virtualbox to install.
 
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Aupmanyav

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Based on this I would expect that you can use a 64bit version of Lubuntu. What happens if you boot to a USB with the latest desktop ISO for Lubuntu 64bit? Can you run it live without installing?
Yeah, it runs.
Another thing: My computer does not have efi variables (if that is relevant). But then, I have many Efi folders and even uefi files.
 

dybmh

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Yeah, it runs.
Another thing: My computer does not have efi variables (if that is relevant). But then, I have many Efi folders and even uefi files.
Then you should be able to use a 64 bit host OS no problem.

I would go with Lubuntu 19.04 64 bit. I'm downloading it now. 44 seconds left.

And make sure that the HW virtualization is enabled before installing.
 

Aupmanyav

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Old Bios. No Hardware Virtualization.
Dybmh, please take care that you may not spend too much time on my problems. They are never going to end.
I am worried about taking up your time.
 

dybmh

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Old Bios. No Hardware Virtualization.
Dybmh, please take care that you may not spend too much time on my problems. They are never going to end.
I am worried about taking up your time.
No worries... this is fun.

I don't think you'll need the HW virtualization as long as you are running the 64bit host OS. However, Lenovo is quite good at setting up a reliable BIOS update method. It's good to be cautious though.

Keep me posted on the install, if you want. I think you will be happy once virtualbox is up and running. I've got lubuntu 19.04 installed, virtualbox 6.06 ( that's what is in the apt repo ), and solus is installing. If you have questions, please feel free. It's not a bother at all. I like it.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
Thanks.... I think I will keep W7 running on all three of my computers. :D
We finally got upgraded to W10 at work and it's okay, but I like W7 better.
Yes, no need to change. Never change the winning team. Definitely not for windows10.

Maybe I live 10 years more ... for those 10 years I am not going to upgrade to windows 10
There is 1 but. With XP, after they "forced" all into windows 7, they started to make XP malfunction I noticed. Same with Vista.

My windows are always very fast upto the date microsoft tells us NOT to use it anymore
First XP, later Windows6. The browsers just won't fly anymore, they become like ants so slow
They put in 1 line in the software "IF this is XP, Vista or W7" then slowdown browsing to make this bugger upgrade:D"
But if they do it with windows 7 this time then I just browse in virtual box with a fast LinuxBrowser
 
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Aupmanyav

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@dybmh , there was a HW virtualization switch hidden in my bios which I have enabled, listed under CPU. I think, I would not face a failure now. Wish me good luck.
What about your Lubuntu and virtualization? Did you get it?
Thanks for all your help and time spent.
 
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dybmh

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@dybmh , there was a HW virtualization switch hidden in my bios which I have enabled, listed under CPU. I think, I would not face a failure now. Wish me good luck.
What about your Lubuntu and virtualization? Did you get it?
Nicely found!

Yes, it's up and working.

virtualbox 6.0.6 is what installs by default. Here's a link to the ext pack for that specific version:

https://download.virtualbox.org/vir..._VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-6.0.6.vbox-extpack

upload_2020-1-10_16-56-25.png
 

Aupmanyav

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@dybmh , did it. Solus in VM, and I can have as many as I want (If I get problems, you are there to help me). Beautiful. Did not need VM6, VM5 was enough. No problem about 32bit or 64 bit as well. As smooth as silk, no waiting for the Iso to be installed. No problem with Mouse Capture. Flabargasting.
Thanks again for holding my hand.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
virtualbox 6.0.6 is what installs by default. Here's a link to the ext pack for that specific version:
Virtual Box under Windows works nice. I used portable version always. Now I've not used for a few years.

I had always 1 issue with VB under windows, copy paste from VB to windows did not work. How is that now? Did you ever have this problem under Windows (or do you use only Linux)?
 

dybmh

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Virtual Box under Windows works nice. I used portable version always. Now I've not used for a few years.

I had always 1 issue with VB under windows, copy paste from VB to windows did not work. How is that now? Did you ever have this problem under Windows (or do you use only Linux)?
The shared clipboard requires the "Guest Additions" to be installed on the virtual machine. Then the shared clipboard needs to be enabled under "settings" in the VirtualBox Manager before the virtual machine is started.

I do have VirtualBox install on Windows 10, but the only Virtual Machine I have on it is Windows98se. And there isn't a Guest Additions for Windows98, so , unfortunately I can't test that for you. But, I'm guessing it works if the guest additions are installed.
 
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