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i'd like to learn Christianity

sandandfoam

Veteran Member
hi :)
ever since i joined this forum, i've learned a little about your religion. but to be honest, i find myself ignorant about Christianity. i want to learn. i would appreciate Christian people to teach me this religion step by step.


thank you

I consider myself a Gnostic Christian, I believe that anyone who claims to follow Christ is a Christian. But I think I'm on the margins.
I've posted this before - it sums up my views
-Regarding Gnosticism -
I believe that discovering what is within the psyche is equivalent to disovering the secrets of the universe.
-Regarding Christianity my starting point is Pelagius' assertion that what is important is not believing in Christ but trying to be like him. (nb - Pelagius is considered a heretic by many)
These few lines by him changed everything for me - "You will realize that doctrines are inventions of the human mind, as it tries to penetrate the mystery of God. You will realize that Scripture itself is the work of human minds, recording the example and teaching of Jesus. Thus it is not what you believe that matters; it is how you respond with your heart and your actions. It is not believing in Christ that matters; it is becoming like him."



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Mister Emu

Emu Extraordinaire
Staff member
Premium Member
The Nicene Creed:

We believe in one God the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible.

And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds, God of God, Light of Light, Very God of Very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father by whom all things were made; who for us men, and for our salvation, came down from heaven, and was incarnate by the Holy Spirit of the Virgin Mary, and was made man, and was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate. He suffered and was buried, and the third day he rose again according to the Scriptures, and ascended into heaven, and sitteth on the right hand of the Father. And he shall come again with glory to judge both the quick and the dead, whose kingdom shall have no end.

And we believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord and Giver of Life, who proceedeth from the Father and the Son, who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified, who spoke by the prophets. And we believe one holy catholic and apostolic Church. We acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins. And we look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
The Nicene Creed:

We believe in one God the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible.

And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds, God of God, Light of Light, Very God of Very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father by whom all things were made; who for us men, and for our salvation, came down from heaven, and was incarnate by the Holy Spirit of the Virgin Mary, and was made man, and was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate. He suffered and was buried, and the third day he rose again according to the Scriptures, and ascended into heaven, and sitteth on the right hand of the Father. And he shall come again with glory to judge both the quick and the dead, whose kingdom shall have no end.

And we believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord and Giver of Life, who proceedeth from the Father and the Son, who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified, who spoke by the prophets. And we believe one holy catholic and apostolic Church. We acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins. And we look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.

That's the third variation (subtle, but certain words added) of the creed that I have come accross; is it so important to "get it right"?
 

dance-above

Member
The wrath of God is revealed against all ungodliness of men. Who shall be saved for all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God. By the law no man shall be saved for by the law is the knowledge of sin. What shall we do? Behold a Savior is born ( for God so loved the world he gave his only begotten Son to be a sacrifice for sins) The Godly for the ungodly. And whosoever shall believe in him Shall be saved. And the promise of the Holy spirit shall be given to them (born From above) Newness of Life. A new man created in the image of him who died for them. being rooted and grounded in Love. Christian. Amen
 

Hanslope

New Member
I think there are many translations of the Bible so that it be read in the language spoken and read by the reader. The Catholic versions of the Bible also include a few apocryphal books which other Christians do not rate as full scripture. 66 Bible books are found in virtually every translation and it has always been that way.
The Quran is also translated into various languages because most Muslims do not speak or read Arabic.
 

ukMethodist

Member
You cannot learn Christianity, but you can learn of it. But to really understand it You need to hear the Gospel, and find Jesus. It's a personal relationship with God.

What questions do you have?
 

ukMethodist

Member
i see..but you, Christians actually accept OT as word of God but after first coming of Messiah it was not needed anymore because Messiah brought completed one?? is that why you call them OT and NT instead of Tavrah and Bible?



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No, I have to stop you there. You are confusing one thing with the other, and jump to conclusions.

Why do you want to learn about Jesus? Are you looking for answers? What kind of answers? What is it, you are searching?

You have to understand, I've been involved in a lot of interfaith work in the past, and I would like to know more about where you are coming from, your initial motivation.
 

CaptainBritain

Active Member
I will try to explain what we believe though I can only speak for my self as Christianity has a very broad congregation.

in short hand.
The OT, tells us of the begingings of the universe and the Earth, of the first people made by God of the infinate variety we have and its source, of the spread of man, it tells us of Gods greatness, of Gods law, Abraham and Moses (who we do accept as great prophets btw) of his special connection to the Jews through who his plan for all of us is to be born to fruition..

Above all imho it tells us of the fall of Adam and the consequences, from there we get the histories which i will leave here for now as a lot happens and many names with hard spelling get involved, the histories tell of the Jewish people and there times,
We then have the great bulk of the OT the books of the prophets, people all of who we accept as prophets, via the spirit of the Lord and his Angels God reveals prophecy after prophecy that link direct in our belief to Jesus.
Ive heard that there are over 400 prophecies in the OT that Jesus has fulfilled. (though ive yet to count them all myself, i will trust the scholars)

Then we have the Books of wisdom of David and Solomon, book of prophetic word and song that give the great wisdom of the Lord to us so that in our dealings we remain as pure, honest and fullfilled as we can be (Proverbs and Psalms are my two favourite books of the OT)

We then Get to the NT,
The Gospels, the birth, life, teaching, ministry, miracles, wisdom,prophecy fulfilling, death and resurection of Jesus, our route to salvation is born to us, we are saved.
Acts tells us of the time after Jesus rose and the works and miracles of the apostles.

Then the bulk of the NT the Letters, prophetic and wise words born of God via the apostle to extend the message and build Gods church.

Finally Revelations, the prohecies for the future and end times, so many prophecies we dont yet know how many imho, much has come true and is in the process.

We believe that the Bible is the word of God, inerrant, the source of all wisdom, morality, guidance and truth, pure and faultless, Gods plan for the humble and wise, God is without begining and end, creator of all, that Jesus is man redeemer for the fall of Adam, that God is with us 24/7, hears our prayers.
We believe the Jesus will come back on the day of judgement which will be fair to all, and that he will take us by his grace to heaven, we cannot get there by ourselves, we are expected to do our best and repent when we fail.
It is our duty to follow his example as best we can.
The Bible tells us all the threat that will come and try and shake our faith, all satans tricks, many we see in this day and on this forum, eg science as a pretender God is predicted.
The Bible in most cases is 66 books, but the sum of the 66 parts as a whole is worth 10,000 of that, we still only scratch the surface.

Well im not sure i was very clear there but its the general nuts and bolts of my being and view of what Christianity and the Bible is, hope it helps.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
you mean there are more than one version of Protestant Bible? i red Bible once when i was younger. i don't know which one was that. but reading Bible is not what i am expecting from this thread. i just want to learn slowly by asking questions and hearing answers. i am not willing to debate either. i hope i find what i want..:)

Greek, Orthodox, Protestant and Catholic. there are four major paths? is the Greek the oldest one?

The Protestant and Catholic bibles are very similar - the Catholic bible however has seven more books (called the Deuterocanonical books). These are all in the Old Testament, which predates Christianity. Catholics base the inclusion of these books on the fact that the bible being used by most Jews in Jesus' time was the Septuagint, which included these 7 books. Jesus quotes from these books extensively in the NT. These books were not removed from most protestant bibles till well into the 19th century - in fact, they are still included in some protestant bibles, in a separate section.

But don't get bogged down in all that - those 7 books don't make much, if any, difference in the application of the Chrsitian faith, though they are pretty interesting to read. They're not the MEAT of the faith.

You can get a good parallel bible and read four (or more) versions of bibles simultaneously. I really encourage this if you are studying a passage in depth. You may be amazed to find, not how DIFFERENT the varying versions are, but actually, how close to each other they are.

If you want to truly understand Christianity, you will need to refer to the bible a lot. I wouldn't trust just what I read on this site, that's for sure - not for real answers to your real questions anyway.

All four major "threads" of Christianity started from the same root. Their teachings are more similar than they are different. The gyst of the faith would be the same, I would think.

To me, Christianity in a nutshell (the beliefs, not the applications) is captured in the Apostle's Creed - a document from the early Church (first written example is from the 4th century, but it was an oral tradition before that). Here it is:

1. I believe in God, the Father almighty, creator of heaven and earth.
2. I believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord.
3. He was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit and born of the Virgin Mary. 4. He suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried. 5. He descended into hell. On the third day he rose again. 6. He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of God the Father Almighty. 7. He will come again to judge the living and the dead. 8. I believe in the Holy Spirit, 9. the holy catholic Church, the communion of saints, 10. the forgiveness of sins, 11. the resurrection of the body, 12. and the life everlasting. Amen. This creed is an integral part of the Catholic and many Protestant churches (Anglican, Presbyterian, Lutheran, Episcopalian, Methodist, and many Baptist for example). It is considered a synopsis of the Christian faith.

I don't mean at all for this to be a comprehensive answer to your questions. If you like, we can take each point one at a time, and discuss.

But the bottom line is this: "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life." Couple that with "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you," and you've got a good start on understanding the Christian faith.
 

Buttons*

Glass half Panda'd

I consider myself a Gnostic Christian, I believe that anyone who claims to follow Christ is a Christian. But I think I'm on the margins.
I've posted this before - it sums up my views
-Regarding Gnosticism -
I believe that discovering what is within the psyche is equivalent to disovering the secrets of the universe.
-Regarding Christianity my starting point is Pelagius' assertion that what is important is not believing in Christ but trying to be like him. (nb - Pelagius is considered a heretic by many)
These few lines by him changed everything for me - "You will realize that doctrines are inventions of the human mind, as it tries to penetrate the mystery of God. You will realize that Scripture itself is the work of human minds, recording the example and teaching of Jesus. Thus it is not what you believe that matters; it is how you respond with your heart and your actions. It is not believing in Christ that matters; it is becoming like him."



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lol, don't introduce Gnosticism, it'll confuse the poor guy.

Think of the Gnostics as Sufi's :) lava.
 

Buttons*

Glass half Panda'd
Kathryn has a rather spot on view of what's going on. It's most historically "on" even if it doesn't address the Catholic/Orthodox split. I'm sure she will explain that if you ask. :) She's very knowledgeable on the subject.
 

Zhakir

Peace&Tolerance
Assalamu alekum Lava
I think it's harder to study christianity from the bible
Not only because it has contradictions,(they replied to you quoting love verses they couldn't quote Killing ones for example), or because christians don't follow it's teachings(shave off the hair of the woman who does not cover her hair for example)
or believe in it's sayings(the earth is flat and doesn't move and has pillars for examples)
but because you and i believe in the quran which says that present book isn't god's.

it's easier to read the quran and find original injeel quotes.
Thank you!.
 
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Chason

New Member
The thing about Christianity in its true form is that is not a religion.

Religion = Man's attempt to reach God.
Christianity = God's attempt to reach man.

I just read where someone said something about shaving a woman's head, I didn't really even read all of it since it was immediately obvious as falsely written. If you think that being Christian is about stuff like that, then you have missed the point completely. Christianity is not about following a set of rules. Chrisianity is about loving God, and from that love the following of the rules comes natural.

I don't steal things.

Why?

Because the Bible says not to steal things? No. Because I love my Heavenly Father, and he does not steal things. I want to be like Him in every way that I can - not because doing so will get me to heaven. But because I am going to heaven already, and out of gratitude and love, I love what he loves and hate what he hates.

Everyone is chasing a set of rules that makes sense to them. Stop chasing doctrines an knowledge. Your knowledge does not matter. What appeals to you does not matter. What you do or don't do does not matter. The only thing that matters is Christ.

For it is not the tree that moves, but the earth. The tree is rooted to the earth, and the earth moves for it. So in the end, the tree is moving. But it's not moving because of a decision to move. We are the trees and Christ is fertile soil. Root yourself to him, and allow him to do the moving.
 
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Just_me_Mike

Well-Known Member
.lava
Forgive me, but asking this on the RF will give you about 100 different versions of Christianity.
I commend you for reaching out, and wish you lots of luck, but I am not sure this is the way to learn Christianity.

If I were to take a stab at talking with you, I would first start by asking what is it to you at this point in your life, and then go from there. That way I am not making assumptions about what you do and don't know already.
 

Just_me_Mike

Well-Known Member
Assalamu alekum Lava
I think it's harder to study christianity from the bible
Not only because it has contradictions,(they replied to you quoting love verses they couldn't quote Killing ones for example), or because christians don't follow it's teachings(shave off the hair of the woman who does not cover her hair for example)
or believe in it's sayings(the earth is flat and doesn't move and has pillars for examples)
but because you and i believe in the quran which says that present book isn't god's.

it's easier to read the quran and find original injeel quotes.
Thank you!.
This thread is for questions. Not debate. It is amazing your fear of .lava coming to ask questions prompted you to post against forum rules.
.lava is not converting, just reaching out. Not judging (the bible) but trying to understand different perspectives.

We should all be so noble.
 
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