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Ideal government?

Cacotopia

Let's go full Trottle
Is there one in existence? I feel like Democracy is too easily exploited to accurately represent the population that it governs. Especially American democracy. I think it is dead. Or so meddled with that it no longer represents the people.

So is there a type of government in existence that can accurately represent a diverse ideological, religious, and multicultural population? If not what would you suggest?
 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Is there one in existence? I feel like Democracy is too easily exploited to accurately represent the population that it governs. Especially American democracy. I think it is dead. Or so meddled with that it no longer represents the people.

So is there a type of government in existence that can accurately represent a diverse ideological, religious, and multicultural population? If not what would you suggest?

None. At least in a large scale... smaller local associations are useful for shared expenses... (think tribes rather than what people normally think...)
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
None of the ones being offered seem any good, though there are some better ones like Switzerland, Norway and Iceland.
 

Regiomontanus

Eastern Orthodox
Is there one in existence? I feel like Democracy is too easily exploited to accurately represent the population that it governs. Especially American democracy. I think it is dead. Or so meddled with that it no longer represents the people.

So is there a type of government in existence that can accurately represent a diverse ideological, religious, and multicultural population? If not what would you suggest?


We need a one world socialist government ruled by an enlightened dictator. Unfortunately that will never happen.
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
With so many divergent minds that exist even among those of like minded nature, I think it's virtually impossible to all of those qualities to every single person without alinating a small group. I think a Democratic Republic with a Bernie Sanders twist is our best possible chance.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
Is there one in existence? I feel like Democracy is too easily exploited to accurately represent the population that it governs. Especially American democracy. I think it is dead. Or so meddled with that it no longer represents the people.

So is there a type of government in existence that can accurately represent a diverse ideological, religious, and multicultural population? If not what would you suggest?
It would be wrong to allow our focus on "the best" to cause us not to pursue the "better". The U.S. was the very first attempt at a limited, representational democracy. And it presented the world with some very good ideas about governance. But unfortunately, it was set up and implemented just before the dawn of a whole new era in human history, and so was woefully under-defined for the incredible stresses and forces it was soon forced to endure. And it does appear to have completely failed, us, at this point. It has become so totally corrupted by the sophistication of modern human greed that there is no fixing it.

But other nations, that have set up their own new forms of government since the U.S.'s "great experiment", have been able to use those ideals and further improve on them, and as a result are functioning far better than the original U.S. version. I hold little hope that the U.S. will learn from them, and change accordingly, as we are too far gone for that. But I do hope that as other nations collapse, and have to rebuilt themselves, they will look to these newer and improved models of limited representational democracy, and use them is their starting point.

To this day one of the greatest government treatises ever written was the first paragraph of the Declaration of Independence. And that should be the starting point for all new forms of government. Unfortunately, as important as the ideals may be, the success of government rests on the mechanics, not on the ideals. That's where the U.S. founders had fallen short, even as they wrote those fine words. And it's where other governments will either fail or succeed, in the future.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Though a representational democracy is not perfect, it is pretty well the best thing we have created, to date.
 
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