Ideology over Science, Religion over Reason

[The Voice of Reason]

Well, if you've lived in America for the last eight years, and watched this administration make one horrendous decision after another, you can't say you couldn't see this revelation coming:
Think Progress » EPA Administrator Stephen Johnson: There’s ‘not a clean-cut division’ between religion and science.

 

[Luminous]

please do resign! It's like a endist dream to destroy the world. He can't be allowed to keep doing it.

 

[Mister Emu]

I'm not saying I support the man or all of his decisions, but I don't see this as something wrong to say... infact I'd wager most here don't believe that there is a fundamental science-religion dichotomy...

 

[The Voice of Reason]

It isn't the fact that these two don't see a dichotomy - it's that, in this administration, people have been appointed to oversee key areas of the government that have a HUGE impact on us that rely on religion, and ignore the science. For the last eight years, the EPA has been our worst enemy - not the protector of the environment that it was designed to be. Stem cell research is another example.

 

[Willamena]

I don't get it. Is the division between science and religion being held up as a measure of the division between church and state?

 

[Mister Emu]

Oh, I thought you were getting on him for the quote in the link title...

 

[Guitar's Cry]

What bothers me is his faith in corporations more than his religious faith. In fact, that suggests there's less of a religious faith and more of a monetary faith at work here.

 

[Apex]

It isn't the fact that these two don't see a dichotomy - it's that, in this administration, people have been appointed to oversee key areas of the government that have a HUGE impact on us that rely on religion, and ignore the science. For the last eight years, the EPA has been our worst enemy - not the protector of the environment that it was designed to be. Stem cell research is another example.

Could you provide us with some examples where this guys religion has had a direct and negative impact?

 

[The Voice of Reason]

Could you provide us with some examples where this guys religion has had a direct and negative impact?

No. Not one.

I have no idea where I got the idea that Bush's religious views have impacted our government.

I don't know what I was thinking.

 

[Wandered Off]

What bothers me is his faith in corporations more than his religious faith. In fact, that suggests there's less of a religious faith and more of a monetary faith at work here.

I'm not sure there's a great distinction between the two. I think a belief becomes religious not based on its content but based on the way it is held.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

I'm not sure there's a great distinction between the two. I think a belief becomes religious not based on its content but based on the way it is held.

Good point! Perhaps "spiritual" rather than "religious" works better in my usage of it?

 

[Apex]

No. Not one.

I have no idea where I got the idea that Bush's religious views have impacted our government.

I don't know what I was thinking.

I was asking about Stephen Johnson, the guy in the article you linked to. What gave you the idea I was asking about Bush?

 

[Ciscokid]

Well, if you've lived in America for the last eight years, and watched this administration make one horrendous decision after another, you can't say you couldn't see this revelation coming:
Think Progress » EPA Administrator Stephen Johnson: There’s ‘not a clean-cut division’ between religion and science.

I'm praying to baby Jesus right now that this man hasn't or can't breed. This young earth fantasy is dangerous.

 

[Luminous]

I agree with the quote; i hate the man's policies.

 

[painted wolf]

The EPA is a shambles right now due to the lack of interest in science by those in charge.
Such decisions as loosening the regulations in spite of scientific input on:
Arsenic in drinking water (a major issue in granitic states like New Hampshire)
Mercury in the atmosphere and water (Mental retardant and bane of pregnant women)
Soot in the air (a leading cause of breathing problems in the USA)

I could go on but you get the gist.

wa:do

 

[Alexander007]

In religion, you don't usually do anything, at least if you are a Christian. We all know God will help you. In Science, you do. In science, they tell us that God doesn't exist, so you can kill as many men as you like, and treat them as laboratory animals and whatnot. Sounds like the separation between Science and Religion is some kind of pitch rammed down people's throats during the Inquisition, and 400 years later, well, here we are today. My religion is a union of science and religion. You don't have to believe anything you don't want to.

 

[painted wolf]

In science, they tell us that God doesn't exist, so you can kill as many men as you like, and treat them as laboratory animals and whatnot

I don't know who you've been listening to... but as a scientist (biologist) I've never heard anything remotely like this.

You don't have to believe anything you don't want to.

You can believe anything you want, but pollution will still kill you.

wa:do

 

[The Voice of Reason]

In science, they tell us that God doesn't exist,

You display a fine grasp of science, other than the gaping holes in your basic understanding of the discipline. Science makes no claims whatsoever about God, inlcuding His existence or his attributes.

... so you can kill as many men as you like, and treat them as laboratory animals and whatnot.

Exactly. Because scientists are constantly having to find ways to pile up the bodies outside the laboratories.

Sounds like the separation between Science and Religion is some kind of pitch rammed down people's throats during the Inquisition, and 400 years later, well, here we are today.

Solid work here, Alexander. I have absolutely no idea of what you are driving at with this statement, but the work is top notch.

My religion is a union of science and religion. You don't have to believe anything you don't want to.

Excellent. This should result in having no need to read books or learn any disconcerting facts. Your religion should do very well among those with low IQ's.

 

[rojse]

In religion, you don't usually do anything, at least if you are a Christian. We all know God will help you. In Science, you do. In science, they tell us that God doesn't exist, so you can kill as many men as you like, and treat them as laboratory animals and whatnot.

Please give examples.

Sounds like the separation between Science and Religion is some kind of pitch rammed down people's throats during the Inquisition, and 400 years later, well, here we are today. My religion is a union of science and religion.

So, this means you can treat people as laboratory animals and whatnot?

You don't have to believe anything you don't want to.

Oh, dear.

I look forward to seeing more posts from you - if only because I like to laugh.

 

[ChurchPlantings]

No. Not one.

I have no idea where I got the idea that Bush's religious views have impacted our government.

I don't know what I was thinking.

Sooooooo...I guess that's a No?

You can't provide evidence that Bush's religion has profoundly impacted his tens of thousands of decisions as President for 8 years? Did he invade Iraq because of the Bible? Is that it????