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If climate change folks want to be taken more seriously, stop making stupid #$@ articles like this.

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Wouldn't the phytoplankton just "relocate" and thrive in other areas? The ocean temps are not uniform globally, or is it?
Some would be able to shift ranges, sure, but proper temperature isn't the only factor in their survival. There's also pesticide and plastic breakdown particle pollution, acidification and proper insolation. They also depend on proper currents to distribute nutrients and a proper food web of other species to maintain a healthy population.
It's all very complicated and interconnected. Cut the wrong cord in the web and you could have massive unintended consequences.

The viability, reliability, and effectiveness of green energy vs conventional means is an issue. Not to mention It's hideously expensive to implement alternative technology for which there is a decent return for all the trouble.

So far the only green contender imo is primarily geothermal, hydrothermal with limited areas for solar and wind where it's pracitability and profitability warrants the time and effort.

Nobody is going to actually care about green energy unless there is a return for which one benefits in a direct way. Like reduced costs and increased efficiency.
I think you're underestimating the practicability of solar and wind, nM. In many places they're nearly on a par with conventional energy costs, and the prices are falling. They also promise new industry and jobs, so should be a boon to the economy.
Existing power companies resist a change to green energy 1: 'cause they already have conventional infrastructure in place, with profits rolling in, and, 2: It's hard to centralise wind and solar in discrete facilities so as to monopolise profits.

As for nobody caring for green energy, consider Germany (not known for abundant sunlight), which set out to eliminate the need for a new nuclear plant with an experimental subsidy programme for home solar power.
So successful was this programme that it matched the output of something like 14 nuclear plants and eventually had to be shut down because it was overloading their existing power grid.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Then I guess we'll have to decide whether money is more important than human life, and this concern has been the opinion of many researchers and even our own Department of Defense.
Considering capitalism is a great system for enabling psychopaths to easily work their way up to the top, of course money is the primary issue for many companies. What's human safety and well-being when you can make even more money?
 

Midnight Rain

Well-Known Member
I don't think it's the source that's the issue.

The viability, reliability, and effectiveness of green energy vs conventional means is an issue. Not to mention It's hideously expensive to implement alternative technology for which there is a decent return for all the trouble.

So far the only green contender imo is primarily geothermal, hydrothermal with limited areas for solar and wind where it's pracitability and profitability warrants the time and effort.

Nobody is going to actually care about green energy unless there is a return for which one benefits in a direct way. Like reduced costs and increased efficiency.

Incidently I haven't heard of anyone actually banning solar or wind. At least so in my area.
The banning of solar power and wind power is pretty widespread. It isn't called "The ban" and it isn't usually stated as such. What it is however is the communities that choose not to give zoning rights for such companies that have made requests. Were I not on a phone I would link you to the story this past week in North Carolina. Just google it if you have any legitimate interest in the town that banned a solar farm as well as all future solar farms.
I agree that implementation of green energy is often fairly expensive. Though it has been successful when it is implemented. Solar farms are propping up all around and so are wind. They haven't seen significant increases in energy costs.

Something I personally am very interested in has been the recent success of a nuclear fusion reactor. If they can get the knack of that then it solves the worlds energy problems fairly easily.
 
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