No boogeyman, I read they already have it on the books in Germany, no more gas cars are allowed to be made, in the not so distant future, can't remember what year, but less than a decade away.
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If Donald Trump becomes a believer in Climate Change...
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The Emperor of Mankind
Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
So in other words your position can be summed up thus:
But what if global warming is a hoax and we free ourselves from damaging petrochemicals usually provided by ethically questionable regimes that we should really have nothing at all to do with, tie ourselves to energy sources that will not run out during the lifetime of our species and clean up our energy usage for nothing?!
Guy Threepwood
Mighty Pirate
bad weather being caused by 'bad people' is one of the oldest superstitions known to mankind.
Sacrifices have always been accepted on behalf of the weather gods to improve the weather, and they've never worked.
Switching scary masks and dances for scary computer sims doesn't make this superstition any less scientifically illiterate
If you think it's all going to go so well, you obviously believed all the other lies as well. Batteries are not so efficient. You'd think they'd experiment on electric lawn mowers first, or something.
Guy Threepwood
Mighty Pirate
So in other words your position can be summed up thus:
I like the solutions, so I don't question the problem.
The Emperor of Mankind
Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
And how do you improve a technology? You use it, study how it works and invest in developing improvements. If this argument were happening a few hundred years ago the climate change deniers would be advocating that we still use whale oil as a fuel source in the face of global whale extinction while loudly condemning the notion as a hoax or a conspiracy.
Guy Threepwood
Mighty Pirate
My local golf course like many, used to have electric carts in the 80s and 90s But as gas engine technology has improved with electronic ignition etc, gas powered carts have become the norm.
If EVs can't compete in the market for tiny open air carts, at slow speeds, with a range of a couple of miles.. that doesn't bode well for real world conditions
No, I believe we could kill all the whales.
Guy Threepwood
Mighty Pirate
This is anything but a 'new' technology
The market for electric cars peaked about 100 years ago, they were made redundant by the developing improvement of gasoline engines. That technological gap has widened ever since. To the point, as above, that electric doesn't even make much sense for a golf cart anymore.
If anthropocentric climate believers had their way 100 years ago, we'd have banned oil then and missed out on a century of huge growth in technology and standards of living worldwide.
We switched from whale oil to 'fossil' oil because it made economic sense, it quickly revolutionized the world- not because of massive subsidy, ideology, superstitious fear of weather gods
This is anything but a 'new' technology
The market for electric cars peaked about 100 years ago, they were made redundant by the developing improvement of gasoline engines. That technological gap has widened ever since. To the point, as above, that electric doesn't even make much sense for a golf cart anymore.
If anthropocentric climate believers had their way 100 years ago, we'd have banned oil then and missed out on a century of huge growth in technology and standards of living worldwide
"Guaranteed to go 100 miles on the first charge...after that we're not so sure." They never add the reality to the advertisements.
The Emperor of Mankind
Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
This is anything but a 'new' technology
The market for electric cars peaked about 100 years ago, they were made redundant by the developing improvement of gasoline engines. That technological gap has widened ever since. To the point, as above, that electric doesn't even make much sense for a golf cart anymore.
If anthropocentric climate believers had their way 100 years ago, we'd have banned oil then and missed out on a century of huge growth in technology and standards of living worldwide
Oh, well, check & mate I guess. Never mind that both battery technology & car technology has improved considerably in that time in effects of storing & using energy. Never mind that the best you can do is pull up a car from literally a century ago and use it as an argument as to why electric cars don't work and shouldn't be used now.
Good for you.
Guy Threepwood
Mighty Pirate
point being, neither technology is new, BOTH technologies have improved, and one is the clear winner
One thrives without subsidy, has revolutionized transportation, agriculture, built the modern mobile world we live in today.
The other peaked 100 years ago in popularity, it has emerged periodically to the extent it has been heavily subsidized.
I've nothing against electric cars if they were economically viable. But there is a fundamental reason they never have been:
Look no further than nature- we use electrical energy in our bodies to control the chemical energy. Just as electric ignition in gasoline cars.
electrical energy is better at delivering precisely measured packets of energy. Chemical energy is better at storing and delivering large quantities.
Guy Threepwood
Mighty Pirate
You still see some model As and Ts running around, they were practical vehicles that people kept running for decades, not so much electrics..
They were toys for wealthy people, especially for women since they were cleaner, quieter, and didn't need hand cranked!
Basically electric motors were/are far simpler than internal combustion engines. The latter was a far more sophisticated technology that took longer to develop. Going electric would be a giant technological leap backwards.
That's fine if people want to do it- with their own money, not mine!
jonathan180iq
Well-Known Member
Lizard people?
esmith
Veteran Member
Id like to think so. I just hope he does himself a favor and gives Twitter a rest.
D*#% it, we're agreeing again.
What's your problem? Does this mean you follow him on Twitter?
To be serious, vice a little confrontational I think President-elect Trump uses Twitter to bypass the media. The majority of the media was pushing for Hillary and this may be a little payback. In addition by doing this he doesn't have to rely on the media to "get the word out". In addition print media is going out of style along with broadcast media. How may people use their personal media device to receive and transmit information. Heck, talking on the phone has even gone out of style. Crap I'm 74 and if the wife want's to get in touch with me when either one of us are out we use texting. What does that tell you. And no I don't do twitter.
Nah! But every new agency is and that is worse!
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Ain't it bizarre that Trump and so many on the right condemn the "lamestream media", and yet it was this same media that Trump used to got all his free publicity from. Heck, even today after the election been over for almost a month, you can't watch the nightly news without having to go through another piece of Trump's antics.
Hey, even when he's president, if he were to feel that he isn't getting enough everyday coverage, he'll probably make a sex tape with an orangutan whereas it's "accidently" stolen and put on the net.
Hey, even when he's president, if he were to feel that he isn't getting enough everyday coverage, he'll probably make a sex tape with an orangutan whereas it's "accidently" stolen and put on the net.
esmith
Veteran Member
somebody still having issues with the election results?
To be fair, he does have a point. The media hasn't been kind to Trump, but the media did give him a lot of coverage. For better or for worse it did help during his campaign.somebody still having issues with the election results?