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If God has plan for everyone. . . .

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Why ask the question? If one is a non-theist who does not worship or rejects that particular god, what would the answer matter?
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
Then what is his plan for the atheist?

Every time I hear someone ask about "God's Plan" I have to ask the question:

Why in the world would an all-powerful, all-knowing, all-powerful, all-knowing Deity have to 'plan' a darn thing?

If this Entity wanted something to happen, it would simply be. I think some people try to attribute every occurrence in their live to a 'higher power' rather than accept the idea that every thing is as it should be. It is up to us to decide how we respond to day-to-day life events.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Every time I hear someone ask about "God's Plan" I have to ask the question:

Why in the world would an all-powerful, all-knowing, all-powerful, all-knowing Deity have to 'plan' a darn thing?

If this Entity wanted something to happen, it would simply be. I think some people try to attribute every occurrence in their live to a 'higher power' rather than accept the idea that every thing is as it should be. It is up to us to decide how we respond to day-to-day life events.
it's called.....structured chaos....

very entertaining
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
Not going very well then, is it?

I agree there's a long way to go but I also believe we've come a long way from the major world wars. Things that are signs of progress are human rights, unity against racism, the improving of the status of women which is tied up with peace I believe and also things like interfaith and interreligious dialogue.

But ultimately I believe in the goodness of humanity and in the end the good in all people religious or not will prevail and eventually establish a just, peaceful and tolerant world.

Everyone has a part to play in building this world as we are all part of it. God's plan to me is not to convert the world but to bring out the goodness in all people religious or not and there are billions of good people everywhere.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
I agree there's a long way to go but I also believe we've come a long way from the major world wars. Things that are signs of progress are human rights, unity against racism, the improving of the status of women which is tied up with peace I believe and also things like interfaith and interreligious dialogue.

But ultimately I believe in the goodness of humanity and in the end the good in all people religious or not will prevail and eventually establish a just, peaceful and tolerant world.

Everyone has a part to play in building this world as we are all part of it. God's plan to me is not to convert the world but to bring out the goodness in all people religious or not and there are billions of good people everywhere.
So god let's Trump become President - great plan:D
 

A Vestigial Mote

Well-Known Member
Yes true, and what on earth is the right religion, of course its your religion.
I didn't read @Tumah's comment that way. Seemed to me he was simply pointing out that any number of religions are wrong - simply because they can't all be "right" - so what would be the difference in "God's plans" for ANY of the people who are not following the real God? In other words... why single out atheists?
 
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David T

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Atheists are prophets of obvious goofballness in religion. They warn religion you are being dumb and pay no attention to people such as Ken ham whom is either nuts, a charlatan, or both... .
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Thief

Rogue Theologian
If we all think the same way why would we need someone in charge?
Man has a predisposition.......dominate all things

a bunch of nonbelievers all grouped together....someone will attempt hierarchy
and the believers are not much better

Peace is found with the Almighty
heaven is on the way.

are you ready?
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
Correct!

World peace is a secular idea/goal. If someone is to be blamed for it not being attained, then perhaps secularist should look in the mirror.
So your saying that religion doesn't have any beliefs in their bringing peace to the world, in fact it has been religion that has caused the most misery on the face of the earth, I don't know what planet your from ?.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
So your saying that religion doesn't have any beliefs in their bringing peace to the world, in fact it has been religion that has caused the most misery on the face of the earth, I don't know what planet your from ?.
I suspect....Man, having been given that predisposition....
set about dominating all things...including his fellowman

by the end of Day Six.....it was obvious
something had to be done
Hence....the garden event (after Day Seven)

but that predisposition was not removed
it needed to remain

as for the grief in this world.....that comes from not seeking
Peace first
 

David T

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
You think God had a choice? What was his alternative?
Uhhh you might be a bit literal with artfish. Artfish isn't literally an art fish that types. So, I could go on, but that would be pointless.
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psychoslice

Veteran Member
I suspect....Man, having been given that predisposition....
set about dominating all things...including his fellowman

by the end of Day Six.....it was obvious
something had to be done
Hence....the garden event (after Day Seven)

but that predisposition was not removed
it needed to remain

as for the grief in this world.....that comes from not seeking
Peace first
That's it, peace, which we certainly don't need a god or religion to achieve.
 
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