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If God is Omnipresent,

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
are we in a sort of heaven and don't know it?


“Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.


fruity pebbles, mmmmmmmmhhh
 

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
are we in a sort of heaven and don't know it?
Nope, because God is not ontologically omnipresent. He is functionally omnipresent, but ototologically "in Heaven," that is, if you want an answer based on the Bible as opposed to some 4th century creed.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Nope, because God is not ontologically omnipresent. He is functionally omnipresent, but ototologically "in Heaven," that is, if you want an answer based on the Bible as opposed to some 4th century creed.
so god is divided from his creation in your opinion?

doesn't that create something besides god? didn't God create both at the same time?

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

I am the LORD, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God. I will strengthen you, though you have not acknowledged me,

And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
are we in a sort of heaven and don't know it?


“Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.


fruity pebbles, mmmmmmmmhhh
You might enjoy the old movie "They Might Be Giants" which contains this quote Genesis has got it all wrong. We never left the Garden. Look about you. This is paradise. It's hard to find, I, I'll grant you, but it is here. Under our feet, beneath the surface, all around us is everything we want. The earth is shining under the soot. We are all fools.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
are we in a sort of heaven and don't know it?


“Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.


fruity pebbles, mmmmmmmmhhh

Theologically it seem to fit to me that Earth was hell. You therefore are in hell and don't know it. Jesus came to earth to show folks how to get out of hell. Be giving, be forgiving, don't be attached to material possessions.

Your desires, your lusts keep you imprisoned on Earth/hell. Let go of these and you can move on to heaven. Hold onto them and you'll remain in hell, life after life.
 

eldios

Active Member
are we in a sort of heaven and don't know it?


“Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.


fruity pebbles, mmmmmmmmhhh

Heaven is the invisible thoughts of our Creator broken down into stored data which consists of every created man's life experiences for eternity.

The "Earth" kingdom is the FORMED visible images that appear in each created man's mind from the processing of stored data.

In other words, we are like characters in a simulation program who come alive as the program is being played out.
 

The Holy Bottom Burp

Active Member
Being everywhere and knowing everything is probably what made god go a bit mad, he really needs to spend some time at home, having a bit of "me" time. I just sense he is way too intense and stressed about everything. He should try yoga, I do yoga, it's great.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
so god is divided from his creation in your opinion?

doesn't that create something besides god? didn't God create both at the same time?

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

I am the LORD, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God. I will strengthen you, though you have not acknowledged me,

And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
and yet there seems a great divide

it's temporary I'm sure
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
Heaven for some, hell for others. Some of this is our choosing, some is out of our control.

It's no coincidence that those whose life is hell are the ones more likely to hope for a heaven.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
kind of like is a hand part of a body? or isn't an aspect part of the whole?
a complete separation....with a disconnect

to have unique spirit each time a human lives...
you have to leave him to his life and learning

you're on your own

each man for himself

a few of us realize.....otherwise
 
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