If God spoke directly to everyone...

[cataway]

No, I deny that God does communicate to people.
No, I am not told what to believe by my religion, I choose to believe it.

God does not instruct anyone what to do.
People help other people, that is how it works.
Often those people who help me are atheists.

if you were completely perfect ,as God is perfect , then perhaps the most high God would /could speak with you . as it is you are far from perfect and not even a mediator could or would intervein for you . just saying

 

[cataway]

if you were completely perfect ,as God is perfect , then perhaps the most high God would /could speak with you . as it is you are far from perfect and not even a mediator could or would intervein for you . just saying

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

No, that's your simplistic viewpoint only.

If only you could see how flawed it is.

No, that's your simplistic projection of other's thoughts. If only you could see how flawed it is.

Now I'm sure that many others have produced evidence of God to you before, .

And you would be LYING if you actually said that-- because nobody has: proof? I'm not convinced.

... but you just closed your eyes and REFUSED to even consider it. .

INSULTING LIE FROM THE DARKEST PIT OF WHAT IS HUMANLY POSSIBLE. Dammmit. Why are you theists so EVIL, when you project your LIES onto others?

That tells me that you lack rational thinking. You are stuck on the Atheistic dogma and do not have what it takes to honestly consider the evidence..

Dude! I was a Genuine Christian™ for 40 years! Continuous NO PROOF finally ruined any possibly of faith! Worse-- continuous EVIL from GODLY MEN LIKE YOU-- made me quite sure, if there WAS a god? THIS GOD WAS PURE, MALICIOUS EVIL.

And you just proved that yet again. Thanks!

That, and you STILL lack proof that God does NOT exist. So until you can prove your stance, you got nothing..

1000 times false: YOU-- and EVIL PEOPLE LIKE YOU are all the proof anyone needs, there cannot BE a god who gives a rat's behind-- the fact you continue to spew such MALICIOUS HATE, and are not immediately struck DEAD.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

if you were completely perfect ,as God is perfect , then perhaps the most high God would /could speak with you . as it is you are far from perfect and not even a mediator could or would intervein for you . just saying

Blame The Victim for the failure-- 100% -- of your god to be .. Godly.

Sad.

 

[Trailblazer]

if you were completely perfect ,as God is perfect , then perhaps the most high God would /could speak with you . as it is you are far from perfect and not even a mediator could or would intervein for you . just saying

Nobody is perfect as God is perfect.
The most high God does not speak with anyone except His Messengers.

 

[lukethethird]

You are STILL confused. I'm not one of those atheists so please STOP attributing their low level attributes to me.

The irony is so lost on you, there is nothing you can say about God that is not opinion, whether a believer like yourself or a non believer, because there are no facts as it concerns god/s.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

Nobody is perfect as God is perfect.
The most high God does not speak with anyone except His Messengers.

Which would be immoral, if true. Special Favorites is immoral.

 

[cataway]

Nobody is perfect as God is perfect.
The most high God does not speak with anyone except His Messengers.

ummmm

 

[cataway]

Nobody is perfect as God is perfect.
The most high God does not speak with anyone except His Messengers.

if you are speaking of the human messengers even they receive what they get through angles . even the elect have to go through a mediator. the Christ

 

[Audie]

if you are speaking of the human messengers even they receive what they get through angles . even the elect have to go through a mediator. the Christ

Angels intermediaries, an omnipotent god who cannot
do the simplest things.

What contortions goddies must go through to explain
the empty and silent sky! And give credence to all these
nuts and phonies with messages from all these weird
"gods".

Somehow they then get themselves to believe it.

 

[Audie]

The irony is so lost on you, there is nothing you can say about God that is not opinion, whether a believer like yourself or a non believer, because there are no facts as it concerns god/s.

Some persons are like unto rubber duckies,
totally immune to irony.

 

[Trailblazer]

if you are speaking of the human messengers even they receive what they get through angles . even the elect have to go through a mediator. the Christ

Jesus Christ was the Mediator for His Dispensation but He is not the Mediator for the current Dispensation, according to my beliefs.

 

[cataway]

Jesus Christ was the Mediator for His Dispensation but He is not the Mediator for the current Dispensation, according to my beliefs.

really?? a different dispensation …..not surprised . every one wants things there own way.
what of the kingdom ? I have yet to see the Baha'i speak of it . do you's not know what it is ?

 

[Ancient Soul]

God does not instruct anyone what to do.
People help other people, that is how it works.
Often those people who help me are atheists.

I had to come back to this because it bothered me very much.

NO!

What an insane notion. People are totally responsible to help themselves out of any and all problems they face in life, not depend upon everyone else to come rushing to their aid and do everything needed to help them out. Sure some people MAY try to help others out, but for someone to always expect others to come rushing in to help them out of a problem rather then trying to resolve the problem themselves is selfish and just plain lazy.

And you can deny and use bold print all you want, it will not change the fact that God has always helped me out of all my problems.

 

[Ancient Soul]

I do not blindly believe the scriptures of my religion.
The *reason* why I believe them is because I believe they were written by a Manifestation of God.
I believe He knows more than I can ever know about God, for obvious reasons.

Some people claim to have spiritual experiences, but I do not know what they are experiencing.

I also had to come back to this comment of your's because I missed a comment.

If I remember correctly your religion is entirely based upon the alleged spiritual experiences of one man. Of whom you have no idea if they are valid or not. But you believe them only because you are told to believe them to be "true".

 

[Ancient Soul]

And you would be LYING if you actually said that-- because nobody has: proof? I'm not convinced.

INSULTING LIE FROM THE DARKEST PIT OF WHAT IS HUMANLY POSSIBLE. Dammmit. Why are you theists so EVIL, when you project your LIES onto others?

Dude! I was a Genuine Christian™ for 40 years! Continuous NO PROOF finally ruined any possibly of faith! Worse-- continuous EVIL from GODLY MEN LIKE YOU-- made me quite sure, if there WAS a god? THIS GOD WAS PURE, MALICIOUS EVIL.

1000 times false: YOU-- and EVIL PEOPLE LIKE YOU are all the proof anyone needs, there cannot BE a god who gives a rat's behind-- the fact you continue to spew such MALICIOUS HATE, and are not immediately struck DEAD.

Rants full of raging hatred without any facts are not considered valid debating tactics.

 

[Ancient Soul]

The irony is so lost on you, there is nothing you can say about God that is not opinion, whether a believer like yourself or a non believer, because there are no facts as it concerns god/s.

And the irony is that you can never present any facts yourself. That's the problem with non-beliefs based upon non-facts.

 

[Trailblazer]

your religion is entirely based upon the alleged spiritual experiences of one man. Of whom you have no idea if they are valid or not. But you believe them only because you are told to believe them to be "true".

Straw man. Nobody told me what to believe. I make my own decisions what to believe.

 

[Trailblazer]

what of the kingdom ? I have yet to see the Baha'i speak of it . do you's not know what it is ?

The Kingdom of God on earth is what Bahai's believe that humans will build by following the blueprint instructions Baha'u'llah laid out for us.

The Kingdom of God is already in the process of being built on Earth. It is also called the new World Order.

“The world’s equilibrium hath been upset through the vibrating influence of this most great, this new World Order. Mankind’s ordered life hath been revolutionized through the agency of this unique, this wondrous System—the like of which mortal eyes have never witnessed.” Gleanings, p. 136

“By My Self! The day is approaching when We will have rolled up the world and all that is therein, and spread out a new order in its stead. He, verily, is powerful over all things.” Gleanings, p. 313

 

[Ancient Soul]

Straw man. Nobody told me what to believe. I make my own decisions what to believe.

No it's not any "straw man" sidetracking tactic.

You stated this about your religion:

"The *reason* why I believe them is because I believe they were written by a Manifestation of God.
I believe He knows more than I can ever know about God, for obvious reasons."

And your religion is based entirely upon the personal alleged "spiritual experiences" of ONE person.

Yet you keep dismissing my spiritual experiences with God with comments like:

"Some people claim to have spiritual experiences, but I do not know what they are experiencing."

So my reply of:

"If I remember correctly your religion is entirely based upon the alleged spiritual experiences of one man. Of whom you have no idea if they are valid or not. But you believe them only because you are told to believe them to be "true"."

Fits perfectly.

Is that clear enough for you or do I have to draw you a picture?

So that leaves the only reason you believe one unproven spiritual experience over all others, is because you are told what to believe, that NO OTHER spiritual experiences are valid. Because that's what ALL religions claim, that ONLY THEIR'S is valid and all the others are false. Facts have nothing to do with it, it's all about religious exclusiveness.