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If god wasnt

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
The abrahamic god

If you had

1. Evidence of god (Im simple minded; no semantics)
2. God was not like the one in the bible
3. He loves, make present to his creation, and did everything you feel god should do

Would you believe in him?

Why or why not?

I just want to see something.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Reality is what it is. Whether there is a place for a God in there may be legitimally asked.

Asking how it "would be" if he did not exist is considerably more difficult to parse.

I have no idea of what the OP is asking.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
To me, it hinges on what is meant by "believe in." I think that the more important meaning of "believe in" goes beyond the shallow "I believe this is ontologically real" and dives into "I believe in this; I want to cultivate a relationship with this to show my respect and devotion." That meaning of the phrase "believe in" carries weight and substance - it impacts how you behave and has ramifications for your way of life.

I already believe in the Abrahamic god in the shallow, ontological sense. But I do not believe in that god in the deep sense. I doubt if any amount of evidence or character would alter that. I already have gods I want to cultivate relationships with.

To use an analogy, imagine that you've got a particular style of cooking you really enjoy. It's unabashedly your favorite, and you never get tired of it. Then someone says "oh hey, how about you try this dish from this other culinary tradition?" You might try it, but you might not - depends on how much you like exploring other traditions. Whether or not you try it, you still have your favorite... and that favorite is not this new thing you tried. You keep to your cooking preferences because you know what you like and it works for you.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Reality is what it is. Whether there is a place for a God in there may be legitimally asked.

Asking how it "would be" if he did not exist is considerably more difficult to parse.

I have no idea of what the OP is asking.

If god was nice, would you believe in him why or why not?

(without assuming he doesnt exit and samantics)
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Believe in

When you believe in yourself to win a sports game, your confidence increases. You are trusting that you well in the game.

You believe that your parent loves you. You believe in the love your parent gives because she has taken care of you your whole life.

Means trust
 

joe1776

Well-Known Member
The abrahamic god

If you had

1. Evidence of god (Im simple minded; no semantics)
2. God was not like the one in the bible
3. He loves, make present to his creation, and did everything you feel god should do

Would you believe in him?

Why or why not?

I just want to see something.
If I had extraordinary evidence of a Loving Creator, of course I'd believe in it; but I'd not expect it to be comparable to the "Abrahamic god."
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
1. Evidence of god (Im simple minded; no semantics)
2. God was not like the one in the bible
3. He loves, make present to his creation, and did everything you feel god should do

Im very simple

1. God-of the bible (not jesus)
2. Evidence (material info whatever that supports proof of a claim)
3. Love (affection and act to take careo f someone)
4. Creation (Everything living)
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
If I had extraordinary evidence of a Loving Creator, of course I'd believe in it; but I'd not expect it to be comparable to the "Abrahamic god."

Thank you. How would you define god and why would you believe in it compared to something else religious or not?
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Im just curious if you would believe in a nice existant god if he exist

and why would you believe (if you would) compared to believing something else that has the same qualities just not supernatural in nature?

Also does the supernatural warrent more attention for the exact same nice traits of something that isnt?
 

1213

Well-Known Member
The abrahamic god

If you had

1. Evidence of god (Im simple minded; no semantics)
2. God was not like the one in the bible
3. He loves, make present to his creation, and did everything you feel god should do

Would you believe in him?

Why or why not?

If he would not be Bible God, he would not do things that I think God would do.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
The abrahamic god

If you had

1. Evidence of god (Im simple minded; no semantics)
2. God was not like the one in the bible
3. He loves, make present to his creation, and did everything you feel god should do

Would you believe in him?

Why or why not?

I just want to see something.

"If god weren't" :D

It is ok if it were tho the guy seems a bit of a jerk.

I'd believe in any ol' god, all it has to be
is real, and I can tell it is real.
 

joe1776

Well-Known Member
Thank you. How would you define god and why would you believe in it compared to something else religious or not?
I can't define God. I'd believe in a Loving Creator if given extraordinary evidence but there's no point in speculating what form that might take.

If a Loving Creator exists, I would expect that love to be unconditional.

If a Loving Creator exists, it must have a good reason for not wanting us all to be aware of it, or else we would be.

If it doesn't want all of us to be aware of it, it doesn't need to be worshiped

If a Loving Creator exists and Life has a purpose, it's probably that we learn to treat each other better: moral progress. That makes the most sense.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
If he would not be Bible God, he would not do things that I think God would do.

A lot of people believe the biblical god is not a nice guy. I have no opinions since I dont know him either way, but Im curious to those who think this, if god were the opposite than they depict of him would they believe why or why not.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
"If god weren't" :D

It is ok if it were tho the guy seems a bit of a jerk.

I'd believe in any ol' god, all it has to be
is real, and I can tell it is real.

Im not following you since I dont have opinions about god. But, if god was positive and didnt warrent negativity from those who dont believe him, would you believe why or why not.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
I can't define God. I'd believe in a Loving Creator if given extraordinary evidence but there's no point in speculating what form that might take.

If a Loving Creator exists, I would expect that love to be unconditional.

If a Loving Creator exists, it must have a good reason for not wanting us all to be aware of it, or else we would be.

If it doesn't want all of us to be aware of it, it doesn't need to be worshiped

If a Loving Creator exists and Life has a purpose, it's probably that we learn to treat each other better: moral progress. That makes the most sense.

If it passed all these criteria (if he were nice) why would you believe?

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SalixIncendium

अहं ब्रह्मास्मि
Staff member
Premium Member
Replace it with trust or something.

I'm not sure what words are replaceable in this exercise so I'll ask...

If I can replace 'belief' with 'trust' (or preferably 'know'), may I replace the word 'God' with something else as well?
 
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