If god wasnt

[stvdv]

How is that different from being delusional?

(I'm not saying you're delusional. I'm asking you to look at your argument from an outside perspective. Apply that reasoning to anything else and see if it works.)

Oh there is a big difference from being delusional.

Once you have the experience then you know.

Then you don't ask this kind of questions.

 

[Sir Doom]

The abrahamic god

If you had

1. Evidence of god (Im simple minded; no semantics)
2. God was not like the one in the bible
3. He loves, make present to his creation, and did everything you feel god should do

Would you believe in him?

Why or why not?

I just want to see something.

Well, I won't waste your time pointing out the logical errors you couldn't have prepared for but this question to me looks a lot like this:

"If you could build the exact God you wanted, would you follow it?"

The answer is:

Of course I would.

 

[`mud]

The belief in or not is the question here !
If one believes, then one can't accept any evidence.
If one does not believe, one can't believe the evidence anyway.
Regardless of whether gods exist or not.
The Cosmos is endless, and the possibility of the existence of gods does exist,
regardless of what one may or not believe, so may it, and amen.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Well, I won't waste your time pointing out the logical errors you couldn't have prepared for but this question to me looks a lot like this:

"If you could build the exact God you wanted, would you follow it?"

The answer is:

Of course I would.

Why would you follow it?

If something else had the same traits, would it matter which youd follow?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

The belief in or not is the question here !
If one believes, then one can't accept any evidence.
If one does not believe, one can't believe the evidence anyway.
Regardless of whether gods exist or not.
The Cosmos is endless, and the possibility of the existence of gods does exist,
regardless of what one may or not believe, so may it, and amen.

That doesnt answer my question, though. The OP assumes that it does exist. The question is the reason youd beileve if god changed

 

[QuestioningMind]

The abrahamic god

If you had

1. Evidence of god (Im simple minded; no semantics)
2. God was not like the one in the bible
3. He loves, make present to his creation, and did everything you feel god should do

Would you believe in him?

Why or why not?

I just want to see something.

IF there was VERIFIABLE evidence for a god then I'd have no choice but to believe that this god which has been verified exists, regardless of what type of god it is. That said, it would not be reasonable to believe anything without verifiable evidence.

 

[Sir Doom]

Why would you follow it?

Because it would be the perfect thing to follow. You're asking me to make a poker hand out of 52 cards and then wondering why I went with the Royal Flush? Come on...

If something else had the same traits, would it matter which youd follow?

How could it possibly matter? How would I even know which one I chose? The one on the left? Come on...

I'm not really buying the naivete, in case you were wondering. Seems like a shell game to me. What's your aim, here?

 

[Audie]

What are you talking about?

I never asked for evidence. I dont even remember you talking to me about it, nonetheless listing evidence. Do you got the right person???

I am asking those who think god is bad, if he were good, would they believe and why.

Your-question-makes-no-sense.

 

[Spiderman]

If that were the case, God would instruct people, tell them what to do, give them healthy desires, comfort, and heal them.

I think everyone would believe in God if he did that!

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Because it would be the perfect thing to follow. You're asking me to make a poker hand out of 52 cards and then wondering why I went with the Royal Flush? Come on...



How could it possibly matter? How would I even know which one I chose? The one on the left? Come on...

I'm not really buying the naivete, in case you were wondering. Seems like a shell game to me. What's your aim, here?

If I had two card decks and they both have the same cards but one is blue and the other red, Id pick the blue because thats one of my favorite colors. Its a preference. Jews feel their god is different than the christian god. To me, abrahamic god are all the same. Yet, each person has their own practice to this same god (ideally) because he basicaly offers the same thing, generalizing, as being the creator. Yet, even though god is the same, they chose which hand was a better deal even though they both score the same points.

Im wondering if its something much deeper than my picking blue over red or a christian picking god of the NT rathert han of the OT/Jewish not christian scripture. Is it just luck of the draw (culture aside) or what.

I have no deep purposes in my OPs. If I want deep questions answered, I put RF aside and go to my art.

I was just curious. Whether the question applies to the said person depends on whether they believe god exists and how they define him. People who beileve god is already nice inheritedly wouldnt need answer the question.

It would not make sense. But RFians like to answer anyway even if the question is way of thier territory.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Your-question-makes-no-sense.

If you believe god is bad

If god changed to be good

Would you follow

It doesnt apply to people who believe in god
It doesnt apply to people who dont care

A lot of people I notice belittle the abrahamic god because of his nature in the OT.

He he was not like that, would they believe.

Its not hard just the question dost a apply to all of you. It wont make sense if you are not the person addressed in the OP.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

If you already had evidence of God, why would belief be required?

If you had evidence of God, belief would follow naturally.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Your-question-
makes-no-sense.

If someone created an OP asking people to give an opinion about gods view on heaven, I would not answer. Its not addressed to me. I dont believe god exists. Its rediculous to reply and say "I dont believe god exists so the answer doesnt apply" thats a waste of time to even press quote. I see it all the time on RF. Makes me roll my eyes everytime.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Replace it with trust or something.

If I was convinced of God's existence, it wouldn't necessarily follow that I would find God trustworthy.

 

[SalixIncendium]

If you had evidence of God, belief would follow naturally.

It depends how one defines 'belief.'

If you mean by trust as was clarified as the intent of the OP, then yes, I agree.

However, if you mean an acceptance of something exists, then belief wouldn't be necessary in the presence of evidence.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Edit. If I understood you right.

If I was convinced of God's existence, it wouldn't necessarily follow that I would find God trustworthy.

Sheesh. People make as if I asked them to build the tower of babel.

Thank you. If he were nice, though, Id assume he would be trustworthy. But would your preference be to trust him because he is trustworthy (in analogy) or, if there is many trustworthy gods, is there something deeper than someone gaining your trust?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

It depends how one defines 'belief.'

If you mean by trust as was clarified as the intent of the OP, then yes, I agree.

However, if you mean an acceptance of something exists, then belief wouldn't be necessary in the presence of evidence.

At this point, I have no idea what you mean by "belief."

 

[Sir Doom]

If I had two card decks and they both have the same cards but one is blue and the other red, Id pick the blue because thats one of my favorite colors. Its a preference

Yes, but that's a ridiculous analogy since you didn't impart anything like that in your OP or any subsequent responses. You are not presenting the choice between two different colors, you are presenting a choice between two completely identical hypothetical beings. You are asking someone to explain why they are picking between blue and blue. Not blue and red.

Jews feel their god is different than the christian god. To me, abrahamic god are all the same.

Well, that explains the confusion then. You just have no idea what you are talking about.

Yet, each person has their own practice to this same god (ideally) because he basicaly offers the same thing, generalizing, as being the creator. Yet, even though god is the same, they chose which hand was a better deal even though they both score the same points.

Judaism and Christianity are not akin to red and blue. I can see how it might seem that way from an atheist point of view, but you are supposed to be suspending that for the discussion, aren't you?

Im wondering if its something much deeper than my picking blue over red or a christian picking god of the NT rathert han of the OT/Jewish not christian scripture. Is it just luck of the draw (culture aside) or what.

Yes, its much deeper than that. Esoteric, even.

I have no deep purposes in my OPs. If I want deep questions answered, I put RF aside and go to my art.

Oh, I see. So you are only very casually asking unclear questions for the purposes of not caring about the answer. [sarcasm]Yes, now I'm totally clear about what your aim is. [/sarcasm]

I was just curious. Whether the question applies to the said person depends on whether they believe god exists and how they define him. People who beileve god is already nice inheritedly wouldnt need answer the question.

You can't be serious...

It would not make sense. But RFians like to answer anyway even if the question is way of thier territory.

Yes, that's what happens when you post nonsense. People try to figure out what you're babbling about. Listen, hypothetical questions are posed on here all the time that require no particular adherence to anything in order to answer them. I'm not a Christian, it doesn't mean I don't have an idea of what the Christian God is. Now, I'm not under any obligation to learn anything about it but if I expect to pick the brains of those that believe in such a thing I might want to perhaps maybe possibly consider learning the barest details about it so I don't sound like a dumb-dumb. Just solid advice.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Yes, but that's a ridiculous analogy since you didn't impart anything like that in your OP or any subsequent responses. You are not presenting the choice between two different colors, you are presenting a choice between two completely identical hypothetical beings. You are asking someone to explain why they are picking between blue and blue. Not blue and red.



Well, that explains the confusion then. You just have no idea what you are talking about.



Judaism and Christianity are not akin to red and blue. I can see how it might seem that way from an atheist point of view, but you are supposed to be suspending that for the discussion, aren't you?



Yes, its much deeper than that. Esoteric, even.



Oh, I see. So you are only very casually asking unclear questions for the purposes of not caring about the answer. [sarcasm]Yes, now I'm totally clear about what your aim is. [/sarcasm]



You can't be serious...



Yes, that's what happens when you post nonsense. People try to figure out what you're babbling about. Listen, hypothetical questions are posed on here all the time that require no particular adherence to anything in order to answer them. I'm not a Christian, it doesn't mean I don't have an idea of what the Christian God is. Now, I'm not under any obligation to learn anything about it but if I expect to pick the brains of those that believe in such a thing I might want to perhaps maybe possibly consider learning the barest details about it so I don't sound like a dumb-dumb. Just solid advice.

The question only applies to

1. People who do not believe in god
2. People who see god in a negative life
3. The question: would they change views if god was positive
4. Why or why not

The rest of you make things complicated. No one needs to reply to a thread that does not apply to them then get upset when the question doestn make sence. If courseit dosnt! its not addressed to that person.

Thats like me getting upset because someone asked in their OP if god created heaven what would it look like. I answer the question doesnt apply to me or some other silly thing not related to the question and then I wonder why Im stll confused. If it doesnt cocern me, I do not answer.

Wich RFians can follow that example. It will save OPs a hundred headaches over questions.

 

[sun rise]

1. Evidence of god (Im simple minded; no semantics)
2. God was not like the one in the bible
3. He loves, make present to his creation, and did everything you feel god should do

Would you believe in him?

The word 'believe' threw me. Because if I have evidence of God then it's not a matter of believing in something I've not seen. Because in the case you've outlined, my belief has been replaced by the reality of vision.