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If one invites me to one' religion/no-religion, should I get annoyed with one?

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Speaking for myself, when I engage in debate here, I'm open to having my mind changed. I also don't approach debate with a proselytizer's mindset: that without even knowing what the other person believes and why he believes it, he ought to set aside those beliefs in favour of what I believe.
My approach here in debate is that I'm throwing my belief into a pit with someone else's belief to let them fight so I can see which one wins. If my belief loses, I either fix it where it failed or throw it out completely to replace it with something else. This is very different from proselytizing.
I compare my notes with others, it broadens one's vision and understanding.
Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
It was more in line with trying to get to the original thought. I have tried to convince atheists of my concepts, but they are against any notion of divinity. They use the words, "logic" and "science" to describe the things they believe in. I believe in the exact same things, only with a divinity attached to these concepts.
"logic" and "science"
Logic and science are recent phenomena in human life, they are not 100% accurate. Why have faith in them? Are those who have faith in them confused?
Regards
 

Parsimony

Well-Known Member
"logic" and "science"
Logic and science
are recent phenomena in human life, they are not 100% accurate. Why have faith in them? Are those who have faith in them confused?
Regards
No method of acquiring knowledge is 100% accurate. Are you arguing that we shouldn't use science or logic? If not, then what method would you suggest to discern, for example, the mass of a distant star?
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
"logic" and "science"
Logic and science
are recent phenomena in human life, they are not 100% accurate. Why have faith in them? Are those who have faith in them confused?
Regards
If you're suggesting that we ignore science and logic, you should know that I personally take this kind of a suggestion as a sign that I'm probably being conned.

Honest people have nothing to fear from logic or science.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
For example, I believe many religions have the profit motive in inviting others to join their religion. Other religions do not invite but coerce those persons they can.

Not correct. It's only Christianity and Islam that actively seek converts. Other religions do not proselytize or seek converts. Most but not all welcome them but they don't coerce or even invite.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Not correct. It's only Christianity and Islam that actively seek converts. Other religions do not proselytize or seek converts. Most but not all welcome them but they don't coerce or even invite.
The junk faxes that people around here get from the local branch of the Church of Scientology disagree with you.
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
"logic" and "science"
Logic and science
are recent phenomena in human life, they are not 100% accurate.

Nothing is 100% accurate (except that statement, ironically). Both logic and science are older than Islam.

A brief summary of the history of the scientific method: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method


And here's some information about logic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic

Why have faith in them? Are those who have faith in them confused?
Regards

Because unlike dogmatic religions, science & logic result in our knowledge of the world improving.
 
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rusra02

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Not correct. It's only Christianity and Islam that actively seek converts. Other religions do not proselytize or seek converts. Most but not all welcome them but they don't coerce or even invite.
I think you are oversimplifying religion. There are hundreds if not thousands of conflicting sects all calling themselves "Christian". Islam also is riven with sects. Then there are the political leaders who set themselves or the State up as objects of worship through coercion and threats. Hitler and Stalin come to mind but there are many others.
 
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