If Russia can hack the U.S. election then

[Jonathan Ainsley Bain]

If Russia can hack the U.S. election then
could you please ask Vladimir Putin to
change the government of South Africa
with his TV remote.

 

[buddhist]

It's amazing how the Soviets Russia can hack all those paper ballots in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. The Soviets Russians must be thousands of years ahead of us to do that!

 

[sovietchild]

Some people say it's not even Russians. They don't even know if it was Russians.

 

[YmirGF]

Some people say it's not even Russians. They don't even know if it was Russians.

You know, it's all terribly amusing hearing the Hillary supporters now suddenly apoplectic about the Russians. You really can't make this stuff up. Anything, but admit the truth... ... that they over-reached and came up short because they didn't pay attention. Revenge is a dish best served cold.

 

[esmith]

Would you people get your facts straight before you post. The 2016 elections were not hacked. What was hacked was
DNC's emails
Podesta's emails

Now these emails have shown how the sausage's are made as far as what the DNC was doing. There are claims that voting irregularities did occur in some areas of the country, but was not the result of "hacking".
Now the release of these emails might have changed the mind of some voters or determined how a voter voted, but even if true really had very little to do with the results of the election.
Even though Trump might have not been the right candidate, Hillary would have been worse (in my and 62.9+ million others opinion)
Now look at the results and tell me what you see and say that this was due to dumping of DNC and Podesta's emails Source
Male Voters Trump 52% Clinton 41%
Female Voters Trump 41% Clinton 54%
18-29 Trump 36% Clinton 55%
30-44 Trump 49% Clinton 51%
45-64 Trump 52% Clinton 44%
65+ Trump 52% Clinton 45%

Hillary lost the typical blue collar worker and only won in areas with a dense population or a very very liberal/progressive enclave.
Also look at the voting map by county and tell me the hacked emails had any thing remotely to do with the election...Will give you the map so you don't have to go looking for it.

 

[Scuba Pete]

It's all about the spin. No Democrat has suggested that the ballots were hacked. That doesn't stop some Republicans from lying about it and suggesting this is what they have contended.

Why is it some Republicans feel the need to lie all the time? Is this a Trump thing? Perhaps, they felt an affinity with such a consummate and prolific liar that they knew he was the one to represent them? Fake news twists such as these are stupid, stupid, stupid. I get that's how Trump won and "Divide and Conquer" took on a whole new meaning with his style of campaigning.

Now, here's the real mess we've gotten into over this. Cozy Bear, Fancy Bear and Gucifer have screwed with our elections and now feel like they 'own' Trump. They wanted Trump elected and helped because they now have leverage over him. Don't think so? All they have to do is provide any evidence, falsified or true, to discredit Trump in a debacle that will make Watergate look like a Boy Scout camping trip. Trump might be a bigot, but he's cunning like a fox. He doesn't want to go through that crap any more than you or I would. Russia will get preferential treatment from here on out. Just watch. Comrade Trump will support the Putin Party line from here on out. Or else...

 

[metis]

It's amazing how the Soviets Russia can hack all those paper ballots in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. The Soviets Russians must be thousands of years ahead of us to do that!

Most communities here in Michigan use voting machines, although they are not on-line during the voting process.

While I'm at it, let me just say that I do believe a national law should be passed that requires all polling areas in all states to have paper back-ups for the purpose of recounts.

 

[metis]

You know, it's all terribly amusing hearing the Hillary supporters now suddenly apoplectic about the Russians. You really can't make this stuff up. Anything, but admit the truth... ... that they over-reached and came up short because they didn't pay attention. Revenge is a dish best served cold.

As is the cozying up by those who are Republicans who used to actually detest Putin & Co.

 

[YmirGF]

As is the cozying up by those who are Republicans who used to actually detest Putin & Co.

Politics makes for strange bed fellows, Metis. Hey, look how you snuggled up to Hillary.

 

[esmith]

It's all about the spin. No Democrat has suggested that the ballots were hacked. That doesn't stop some Republicans from lying about it and suggesting this is what they have contended.

Why is it some Republicans feel the need to lie all the time? Is this a Trump thing? Perhaps, they felt an affinity with such a consummate and prolific liar that they knew he was the one to represent them? Fake news twists such as these are stupid, stupid, stupid. I get that's how Trump won and "Divide and Conquer" took on a whole new meaning with his style of campaigning.

Now, here's the real mess we've gotten into over this. Cozy Bear, Fancy Bear and Gucifer have screwed with our elections and now feel like they 'own' Trump. They wanted Trump elected and helped because they now have leverage over him. Don't think so? All they have to do is provide any evidence, falsified or true, to discredit Trump in a debacle that will make Watergate look like a Boy Scout camping trip. Trump might be a bigot, but he's cunning like a fox. He doesn't want to go through that crap any more than you or I would. Russia will get preferential treatment from here on out. Just watch. Comrade Trump will support the Putin Party line from here on out. Or else...

What is the OP situating in the post then?

 

[Scuba Pete]

What is the OP situating in the post then?

That the Russians 'hacked' the election. No one is saying that. Putin screwed with our election with Soviet style propaganda. Oh, they hacked the DNC and the DNCCC servers to do that. It appears that they also hacked into RNC servers, but decided not to divulge any of that. Comrade Trump benefited while the integrity of our election process has been sullied.

 

[Scuba Pete]

Meet Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear, Russian groups blamed for DNC hack

 

[Thanda]

Typical Americans. A thread about South African politics turned into a thread about American politics

Anyway, for what it's worth, if any nefarious are listening to me - please leave South Africa alone, we are a new democracy and we will sort ourselves out soon enough - give us time, a few hundred years maybe.

 

[Twilight Hue]

It's amazing how the Soviets Russia can hack all those paper ballots in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. The Soviets Russians must be thousands of years ahead of us to do that!

It started with those Rocky and Bullwinkle shows.

We know Boris and Natasha were a Russian brainwashing operation to plant secret key commands in young children's minds. Now they are all grown up, all Putin has to do is appear on RT and say the super secret words to manipulate the vote.

 

[Valjean]

Most communities here in Michigan use voting machines, although they are not on-line during the voting process.

While I'm at it, let me just say that I do believe a national law should be passed that requires all polling areas in all states to have paper back-ups for the purpose of recounts.

As Buddhist pointed out, it's not the Russkis we should be blaming. It was an inside job:

450,000 mostly democratic voters were removed from the rolls. Some were given provisional (placebo) ballots, of course, but these are almost never counted.

 

[buddhist]

Most communities here in Michigan use voting machines, although they are not on-line during the voting process.

While I'm at it, let me just say that I do believe a national law should be passed that requires all polling areas in all states to have paper back-ups for the purpose of recounts.

Per Michigan's Secretary of State, Michigan uses paper ballots, which are then recorded electronically.

 

[esmith]

That the Russians 'hacked' the election. No one is saying that. Putin screwed with our election with Soviet style propaganda. Oh, they hacked the DNC and the DNCCC servers to do that. It appears that they also hacked into RNC servers, but decided not to divulge any of that. Comrade Trump benefited while the integrity of our election process has been sullied.

Fact and source about hacking into RNC and that the hack was a success yet they did not reveal what was taken? That is if you have any.
Tell you what Scuba here is a source that you might want to read. That is if you really want facts vice your fake story
Feds Found RNC-Related Cyberattack Months Ago but It Didn't Raise Serious Concerns, Sources Say

 

[buddhist]

As Buddhist pointed out, it's not the Russkis we should be blaming. It was an inside job:

450,000 mostly democratic voters were removed from the rolls. Some were given provisional (placebo) ballots, of course, but these are almost never counted.

Do you have proof for this?

 

[Scuba Pete]

That is if you really want facts vice your fake story

None of those facts conflicted with the piece I posted. The story of Cozy Bear, Fancy Bear and Gucifer are well documented and accepted by reasonable people who take the time to examine the facts and not just spew their party line. Just because Comrade Trump refuses to accept the truth doesn't negate the truth.

 

[Valjean]

Do you have proof for this?

You won't find much mention of it from the right-wing, "mainstream" media, but Interstate crosscheck, caging, and other voter suppression schemes are well reported in the progressive and international media.
The GOP's Stealth War Against Voters
The Election was Stolen – Here’s How... - Greg Palast
Video:
Petition to release the names on the "Crosscheck" voter purge list