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"I guess in your world, veteran suicide isn't a thing. In mine, it's a serious problem."
That ^^^^^^^^^ is just awful.
My dad was a veteran of WWII, light armor (tank) Spearhead Division.
First in combat.
He had three brothers in WWII combat.
All came back messed up in one way or another. Wounded for sure but the wounds
of the mind were far worse.
That ^^^^^^^^^ is just awful.
My dad was a veteran of WWII, light armor (tank) Spearhead Division.
First in combat.
He had three brothers in WWII combat.
All came back messed up in one way or another. Wounded for sure but the wounds
of the mind were far worse.
One of my partners in police work shot himself last year.
Apparently no one saw it coming.
Suicide among police officers is under reported.
The newspapers say "died of a sudden illness".
Nonsense.Jesus, you scared me!
You quoting me usually has a scary reply
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(actually, I often like your posts and - yes - that should be scary)
So you do realize that suicide is a serious problem. Why would you want to enable it?
Gun violence is mostly suicide, mostly with handguns. Having a gun in the home is a strong risk factor for suicide, but you want people who are already at high risk of suicide to have quick, easy access to guns.
This is the position of someone who either:
- doesn't understand the consequences of what he's arguing for, or
- doesn't care whether those people commit suicide.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
You do realize that background checks are required in every state that I am aware of before you can buy a gun? A "criminal" would be very soon found out if trying to purchase a gun legally.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
So are tall buildings and bridges. Maybe we should look into this method of suicide also.
Oh, for the love of Pete!
I've seen far MORE suicide or suicide attempts with knives, pills, plastic bags,............
Ever see a person with the head in a plastic bag the tighten hands behind the back
so they can't remove it.
They struggle like hell to get free and can't.
How 'bout the 15 year old girl that ate a bottle of aspirin? That causes internal bleeding
that often can't be stopped even with E.R. treatment.
A woman locked in a garage with car windows open and car running.
Sadly the monoxide leaked into the house attached to the garage and
KILLED HER KIDS.
So how in the hell did I enable them?
So me owning guns enables someone hell bent on suicide to commit suicide?
Crap.
I believe suicide itself immoral and, to me , a sin.
Terminal cancer patient in great pain? Yeah, shot himself in the brain and ended his
suffering. Who am I to blame the instrument used?
Saw the body of a 15 year old with terminal cancer who injected himself with
several shot of morphine. How can I condemn morphine? OR the doctor that
left it for him?
Crap. Aspirin enables suicide? Knives enable suicide?
How about Draino?
Ever witness the body of a woman who took a bath in drain cleaner?
She really MUST have wanted to suffer to death.
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeech. FREAKIN FRUGLY.
Condemn the drain cleaner.
Perhaps people who haven't been there done that should not comment without
more thought.
Hugh?
That was a polite way to say .................aw, never mind.
Yup. REAL quick and would be denied by the gun business person.
In my city a permit to purchase a handgun was required and issued by
the local police. (me)
I refused the sale of a handgun to a COP!
Why? He was under investigation for domestic violence.
No way was I going to approve that purchase!
He let me know what he thought of me in no uncertain terms.
I just smiled and let him leave.
Screw him!
I did approve a purchase of a small auto handgun for a lady with no record.
Ten minutes later she shot herself in the brain not a block from the station.
Do I feel bad?
No.
I did nothing wrong and quit reading minds long ago.
A fellow was threatening suicide.
We got him referred to social services.
He jumped off a dam and drowned himself.
Ban dams. Dammit.
"For every question there is a quick, easy, and WRONG answer."
Specially answers based upon emotions.
Inflammatory and INSULTING.
You have NO IDEA how I've responded to suicides or threatened suicides bozo
so quit judging based on no knowledge at all.
Keep reading my posts then comment if ya likes.
Walk a mile (or a few feet) in my shoes before you judge so harshly.
Skwim
Veteran Member
The trouble we have with the availability of assault weapons like the AR-15 is that they were made available in the first place. What numbskull thinking went into the approval of such weapons? Oh! I know. NRA thinking. It's love affair (sexual, I suspect) with the AR-15 is well known and, frankly, quite sick. This love affair is nicely illustrated HERE
Unless one has a problem with the size of their penis I see no reason to posses an assault-type weapon, and this is a damn poor reason at that. Go see a shrink, people.
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Unless one has a problem with the size of their penis I see no reason to posses an assault-type weapon, and this is a damn poor reason at that. Go see a shrink, people.
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Someone enlighten me here.
What about continual checks on the individual? We can't assume a good citizen will remain a good citizen through their lifetime.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Actually the AR-15 is not an assault weapon. An assault weapon has to be fully automatic, or the ability to be so with a simple finger flick. Those that resort to "AR-15 Assault Rifle" argument either have an agenda or have no idea what he is talking about.
I knew this ridiculous question was coming. Wouldn't this apply to everything? If someone legally buys a case of beer should we watch him 24/7 on the off chance he may drive while intoxicated and kill someone? If a woman buys a set of kitchen knives should we monitor her to make sure she doesn't kill her husband in a jealous rage? If someone runs for public office are we to assume that they will automatically accept bribes? Where does this madness stop?
Rather than complain about my tone, argue my facts. Do you disagree that having a gun in the home is a risk factor for suicide?
Is it really ridiculous? Why even do background checks on the initial purchase if you will argue this. That's just one stamp in time that can't prove anything over the life time of the ownership of the gun.
We do deny individuals various uses if they are found to be irresponsible of it. How we enforce it is another story.
An approach with precedent would be how we treat cars.
If guns were treated like cars:
- every car would be registered with the government and licensed.
- you wouldn't be allowed to use a gun without a license.
- every gun would be insured for liability of the person wielding it.
- there would be rules against modifications to guns that increase their risk.
- police would literally hide in bushes watching gun owners for infractions.
- police could stop and question any person carrying a gun.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Again this can apply to any and every part of our day-to-day living.
The difference is that our right to drive a car is not outlined in our constitution.