If there is only one true God, why argue?

[Merlin]

Three of the world's main religious groups, namely the Jews, the Christians, and the Moslems, all share the same God. This is the God of Abraham as revealed in Genesis.

Some later split off from the Jewish faith to follow the teachings of somebody they believe was the Messiah (the Christians), and then later a further group split off to follow the teachings of someone they believe was a divinely inspired Prophet (the Moslems).


If these three major groupings all believe in the same One True God, why do they argue so much about the messenger? Surely, whatever route people take to find their own personal communion with this same God is irrelevant. The most important thing is to get there surely!



What do you think?



Merlin

 

[Sunstone]

Good post, Merlin! Welcome to the Forums!

 

[Ori]

I agree completely, all of mankind is one family.
Good post, and welcome to the forums.

 

[Unedited]

The same reason my family often argues over, 'who said what.'

 

[TashaN]

I agree with you but the problem came with some beliefs in christianity whom they believe that Jesus is the father himself but ofcourse other christians don't say so but sure i guess they are improving the theory till they found out that Jesus originally was the father himself as many members in here said so.

Nevertheless,the jews believe in one God like muslims but thier problem is that they say bad things about Jesus and his Mom the virgin Marry.

in conclusion, Muslims believe in one God as jews do and honor Jesus (PBUH) like Christians as a virgin mother and her son prophet Jesus.


Peace ...

 

[Katzpur]

Three of the world's main religious groups, namely the Jews, the Christians, and the Moslems, all share the same God. This is the God of Abraham as revealed in Genesis.

Some later split off from the Jewish faith to follow the teachings of somebody they believe was the Messiah (the Christians), and then later a further group split off to follow the teachings of someone they believe was a divinely inspired Prophet (the Moslems).


If these three major groupings all believe in the same One True God, why do they argue so much about the messenger? Surely, whatever route people take to find their own personal communion with this same God is irrelevant. The most important thing is to get there surely!



What do you think?



Merlin

I agree that we probably all have the same goal in mind. Most of us are probably doing our best to live our lives in accordance to what we believe God wants of us. I see no problem with discussion and even debate, as long as it remains civil and respectful. But I know that in my own religion (LDS-Christian), we believe that "he that hath the spirit of contention is not of [Christ], but is of the devil, who is the father of contention, and he stirreth up the hearts of men to contend with anger, one with another." We do our best to stay away from discussions that become hostile and insulting. There is no need, in my mind, for any discussion on religious subjects to have to turn into a mud-slinging fest.

Kathryn

 

[cardero]

Three of the world's main religious groups, namely the Jews, the Christians, and the Moslems, all share the same God. This is the God of Abraham as revealed in Genesis.

If these three major groupings all believe in the same One True God, why do they argue so much about the messenger? Surely, whatever route people take to find their own personal communion with this same God is irrelevant. The most important thing is to get there surely!

Many religions can agree to the One True God theory but it is the form of worship and what God requires of these religions that divides them…and don’t call me surely.

 

[michel]

Hi merlin,


Welcome to the forum!

Good question, for a starter - and the answer is simple - Mine!

Joking apart, Katzpur put it nicely; we are all aiming for the same goal, but each different faith has changed the location of the Goal posts. Would it not be wonderful if we could all live in peace and harmony ? - and I think we will one day, in heaven (wherever and whatever that is).

Have fun, keep coming with the questions, and try to answer some the answer to which we don't know either. That's what this forum is about. (with a bit of fun chucked in to spice it up). Hey, look forward to seeing around.

 

[Flappycat]

Three of the world's main religious groups, namely the Jews, the Christians, and the Moslems, all share the same God. This is the God of Abraham as revealed in Genesis.

Some later split off from the Jewish faith to follow the teachings of somebody they believe was the Messiah (the Christians), and then later a further group split off to follow the teachings of someone they believe was a divinely inspired Prophet (the Moslems).


If these three major groupings all believe in the same One True God, why do they argue so much about the messenger? Surely, whatever route people take to find their own personal communion with this same God is irrelevant. The most important thing is to get there surely!



What do you think?



Merlin

Simple. Many people are convinced that they are capable of inerrantly knowing the will and intentions of their god. Some even seem to be convinced that it's within their power to decide whether a soul is saved or condemned. There's supposed to be only one god, but the problem with this is that everyone seems to want a monopoly on him. The attraction of having control over God's mind is that he'll share your political views, forgive only the sins that you want him to forgive, condemn people only for things that you have never had any desire to do, and send everyone you disliked in life to Hell and give you a front row seat to watch them burn. What's not to like about that?

 

[Katzpur]

…and don’t call me surely.

:biglaugh:

 

[Merlin]

Forgive me if I am not doing this right, this is my first day in the forum.

I would like to answered some individual points (without making any contentious statements), but I gather from my fumbling first day that I am just allowed to add another response down the main thread. If there is a better way, i have no doubt i will soon find it.

The sad thing for me is that most people have carried on with the same worn out answers. One quoted some beliefs that Jesus was divine, which clearly he did not accept. My point is beyond that. If Jesus is God, then it does not matter whether we believe in him or not, it is all the same person so we still believe in the same being. If not then he is a conduit to God. Either way it is a personal choice.

If we are all driving to the beach for the day, does it make any sense to argue over the route, as long as we get there?

Some accepted that the main religions all believe in 'one God', missing my main point that they actually believe in the SAME God. He might be called YHWY or Jehovah or Allah, but they are all names of the same being and they even share the same first scriptures (the Jewish Pentateuch).

So, maybe if we stopped caring about the rituals we all choose, or the scriptures we all like (most of which are the ones we were born into), and enjoy the fact that we are actually all batting for the same team captain.

Merlin

 

[michel]

Damn good point.


"but I gather from my fumbling first day that I am just allowed to add another response down the main thread. If there is a better way, i have no doubt i will soon find it."

Sorry, I am not sure what you mean; are you asking how to start a thread ? - PM me, and I'll help.
Michel

 

[dan]

Three of the world's main religious groups, namely the Jews, the Christians, and the Moslems, all share the same God. This is the God of Abraham as revealed in Genesis.

Some later split off from the Jewish faith to follow the teachings of somebody they believe was the Messiah (the Christians), and then later a further group split off to follow the teachings of someone they believe was a divinely inspired Prophet (the Moslems).


If these three major groupings all believe in the same One True God, why do they argue so much about the messenger? Surely, whatever route people take to find their own personal communion with this same God is irrelevant. The most important thing is to get there surely!



What do you think?



Merlin

BY what ordinances or administrations do we get there? Who has the authority to administer? All three religions recognize an order that must be followed, with authorities to guide the way; so which one is right?

 

[TashaN]

I agree with you that we have to live in peace all three religions and this what i really hope to be but i was just talking about somthing beyond this life .. about the hereafter because some people may think we muslims for example are arguing for somthing releated to this life but the fact is we don't care about this life as long as we live in peace.

let's just try to not let poltics and media affect our judgment because we care about the truth only for the sake of mankind hereafter but not this life.

I guess from what I believe now according to what i really discovered by myself not what i was born into it that there must be one true way to get to God .. only one must be right.

If you are talking about this life so i guess everyone is responsible of what he/she believe in and this is his own business but if you are talking about the truth so i guess there is only one that will lead us to heaven .. only one road but not three.


Peace ...

 

[michel]

BY what ordinances or administrations do we get there? Who has the authority to administer? All three religions recognize an order that must be followed, with authorities to guide the way; so which one is right?

Cannot they all be 'right' ?

 

[Malus 12:9]

Cannot they all be WRONG? MICH

 

[Darkdale]

Cannot it not all be a matter of right and wrong, but simply a matter of tradition?

 

[Malus 12:9]

Cannot it not all be a matter of right and wrong, but simply a matter of tradition?

Perhaps "tradition" is a very good word to use, darkdale, along with "belief".

 

[michel]

Perhaps "tradition" is a very good word to use, darkdale, along with "belief".

I prefer Culture, Tradition and beliefs. Those are solid words that announce themselves as being subjective. Right and wrong don't do so, but they are just as subjective, in my mind.

 

[Malus 12:9]

We look at a famous "new" artist that has made their debut. Let's say um..her name was
Candi Cone. Candi releases a song and a few ****e merchandise items. People go crazy over her
and soon Candi has a following of millions. Does that make Candi good singer/artist? Because she
was hyped/pushed through the media?

My point is that if millions follow the one thing, but follow it either a)because others have "told them" it is what to follow or b)it has a lot of hype and is publicised throughout the world, does that make it true? Does it make it correct?