If Things Were Different....

[Sultan Of Swing]

Trump isn't some bi-partisan nominee that has a way to appeal to the left. Trump is the sort of far-right that even make conservative republicans cringe.

He easily could support universal healthcare, was very close to doing so in the Republican primaries, and has proposed a $1 trillion infrastructure spending plan that makes Obama look like a Republican. Not to mention he has pledged to protect social security etc.

 

[Lighthouse]

He easily could support universal healthcare, was very close to doing so in the Republican primaries, and has proposed a $1 trillion infrastructure spending plan that makes Obama look like a Republican. Not to mention he has pledged to protect social security etc.

I was just thinking of the same exact things

 

[Lighthouse]

My point is: if you're going to "what if" reality into a pretzel, why not add some salt?



What offends me is the fact that in the space of a little over a week, the intelligence level of the average thread in this place seems to have plummeted pretty dramatically.

Consider this a self-awareness intelligence building thread thinking outside of the box.

 

[Quagmire]

Consider this a self-awareness intelligence building thread thinking outside of the box.

Well, at least you're consistent.

 

[Iti oj]

Good point .

The media also wouldn't be twisting his words and force feeding that he a racist down peoples minds.

I have watched his speeches in whole durring the primaries. Nothing for the media to twist. He said what he said. But continue ignoring it. That's why I and others are not staying silent.

It doesn't matter if Donald is actually racist or not he says racist things. It doesn't matter if Donald is racist or not he picked white nationalist for his administration.

It doesn't matter if his supporters or racist or not, together they have accepted racism, normalized it and galvanized the racist. ...


Note it could be bigot sexist etc

 

[Revoltingest]

I have watched his speeches in whole durring the primaries. Nothing for the media to twist. He said what he said. But continue ignoring it. That's why I and others are not staying silent.

Pbbbttttt!
You aren't making much noise.

 

[Lighthouse]

I have watched his speeches in whole durring the primaries. Nothing for the media to twist. He said what he said. But continue ignoring it. That's why I and others are not staying silent.

Perhaps not you, but many would be singing an alternative tune towards them and defending them as not racist if he were appealing to lefties and had the media backing him. They would be forgiving and focusing on any twist of racism the media outlets can find on something Jeb Bush or some other Republican allegedly said however long ago.

 

[Iti oj]

Pbbbttttt!
You aren't making much noise.

I'm doing more then making noise.

 

[Revoltingest]

I'm doing more then making noise.

Oh.....that might actually be productive.
Can you teach others this?

 

[Iti oj]

Perhaps not you, but many would be singing an alternative tune towards them and defending them as not racist if he were appealing to lefties and had the media backing him. They would be forgiving and focusing on any twist of racism the media outlets can find on something Jeb Bush or some other Republican allegedly said however long ago.

No. Wrong. The dems wouldn't have put up with that crap in the primaries. Your also ignoring all the attacks and protest on Hillary coming from the more progressive side of The party and other liberals. Just like there are Republican now against trump.

 

[Iti oj]

Oh.....that might actually be productive.
Can you teach others this?

Honestly I'm groping along blind at the moment. But most of my attempts have been posted on rf. I think in a thread in the liberal only section.

But yes teaching others to do...and vote in general is doing more then make noise.

 

[LuisDantas]

Regarding the OP. Who was it that said that people judge other people not for what those other people are, but rather for what they are themselves?

The GOP is behind Trump mainly because it makes a point of a) opposing the Dems out of some sort of blind, proud principle; and b) mustering power if at all possible. And because it does so, it wants to believe that there is a mirror image behavior from the Dems. Even when that makes no sense.

While both parties have some variation on positions (GOP considerably less then Dems, far as I can see, but still), the bottom line is that issues such as taxes for the wealthy, social assistance and public health policies and gun control are pretty good predictors of how the two parties align themselves.

The Republican Party made a point for a decade or so of stopping just short of declaring that any Democrat in a position of influence should be treated as a boogeyman to oppose at every turn and insult whenever possible, logic and decency be darned.

It does not get to blame the Dems for that now.

 

[David1967]

And maybe if Trump were one of the X-men he could have mind-controlled everybody into hearing whatever they wanted to hear and then maybe he would have been nominated by both parties.

In the meantime, if Hillary had been swept away by a twister and come back with magical ruby slippers and the Munchkin and Flying Monkey vote . . .

Didn't a house fall on her sister? She got really mad, but Dorothy and Toto got away.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I'm a Democrat and I never would've voted for Donald no matter what party he ran under. I always thought he was a totally disgusting person.

 

[Revoltingest]

Didn't a house fall on her sister? She got really mad, but Dorothy and Toto got away.

The story has changed, Elphaba has been redeemed as a good witch now.

 

[David1967]

The story has changed, Elphaba has been redeemed as a good witch now.

Really? When is the movie?

 

[Revoltingest]

Really? When is the movie?

IMDB says it's scheduled for 2019 release.
But you can catch the Broadway version wherein the formerly bad witch (Ida Menzel) is more likable than Glenda (Kristin Chenoweth).....

 

[Quagmire]

Didn't a house fall on her sister? She got really mad, but Dorothy and Toto got away.

If I recall, it wasn't the house, it was the Senate.