If Trump loses the election, will he accept it?

[Pogo]

MAGA supporters hang up on pollsters, because "F%^&$ the gub'mint!" It used to be they didn't bother voting either, because "F%^&$ the gub'mint!" Now they vote, and the polling models are having trouble adjusting. Trust me, Trump has a lead.

He is way up in the betting world, and that world doesn't care about politics and stays in business by being on top of reality.
it is beyond 60-40 Trump at this point.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/betting-odds/2024/president

 

[Subduction Zone]

Trump consistently outperforms polls by about 2%. That is going to be the margin of victory.

I've already laid in a supply of spray on tan that I plan to resell to you Yanks at an incredible mark up.

He didn't do so two years ago. The predicted blue wave was a fizzle.

 

[Kathryn]

Who knows? It's all conjecture at this point.

 

[stvdv]

I think it is pretty obvious to anyone you has been paying any attention at all. Little Donny has never learned how to accept rejection, not from a woman, and not from the electorate. If he is told no on Nov 5th he will not accept it, he will do anything to force himself on America.

IF true THEN the answer will be "3", interesting day nov 5. I think it is (a bit) childish to blame others for not winning. Blaming Russia, Putin or China for interfering is so "not smart", as you give them power over you.

Putin would never blame USA for interfering in the election, I think. Putin keeps the power in his own hands, he is in control who wins, definitely not USA. My guess is that China also would never play the "poor me card" USA Presidents play.

I voted "2=maybe", as I missed the option "Trump will win, so we won't know what he would do when losing"

I won't be surprised if Trump wins this time, probably not because Putin messed with the votes. Maybe, because Elon Musk and Trump mess a bit with the minds of the voters.

So, this time if Trump complains and blames if losing he is really not smart (read hypocritical)

I look forward (curious) to the 5th nov outcome

 

[SkepticThinker]

Should Trump lose he and his supporters will accept the results. Although what you mean by "accept" is ambiguous. The anti-Trump echo chamber narrative is bogus. On the other hand, should Trump win all bets are off for what the anti-Trumpers will do.

Another strange case of projection.

It's MAGA that have demonstrated that they will behave violently and irrationally if Trump loses.
There has been no indication that Democrats would behave the same.

 

[SkepticThinker]

This is an oft repeated refrain, but is nonsense. He made legal challenges (as any party would do and he lost badly), and when Inauguration Day came, he left office. Yes, there was the issue at the Capital, but it’s not as if it Trump designed that event to keep himself in office. He didn’t order the military to keep him in. It was a lot of bluster. It will be a lot of bluster again if he loses, but to what end? He has no choice but to accept the outcome.

There was a giant issue at the Capitol and across several states because Trump and his co-conspirators came up with an elaborate scheme to keep him in office that also involved breaching voting machines and setting up fake slates of electors.

He didn't just peacefully leave office on January 20th. This is some of the worst revisionist history I've seen yet.

 

[SkepticThinker]

That is not true. In the past there have been rational lawsuits brought up. Trump brought up deranged ones. Often his own lawyers would not provide the supposed evidence they had because it was so bad that it would threaten their careers. Trump was 60 and 0 That tells you that he did not have any valid lawsuits.

He just claimed again on Joe Rogan's show the other day that he has "so many papers" that he's going to show him (lol yeah right) showing that the election was stolen from him. LOL Wonder why they didn't bother bringing them to court 60+ different times.

 

[Subduction Zone]

He just claimed again on Joe Rogan's show the other day that he has "so many papers" that he's going to show him (lol yeah right) showing that the election was stolen from him. LOL Wonder why they didn't bother bringing them to court 60+ different times.

I know. I heard that too. Joe actually went out of his way. I cannot remember the exact wording but he told Trump that 'everyone else cuts you off so I will let you explain at length'. I used single quotation marks since it is not exact. Let's say words to that effect. And then after Joe did that Trump made the claim that you cited. He will bring "so many papers" later. In other words, even when given the best chance he could ask for he could not justify his claims at all.

And his sycophant followers will eat it up.

 

[SkepticThinker]

I know. I heard that too. Joe actually went out of his way. I cannot remember the exact wording but he told Trump that 'everyone else cuts you off so I will let you explain at length'. I used single quotation marks since it is not exact. Let's say words to that effect. And then after Joe did that Trump made the claim that you cited. He will bring "so many papers" later.

That's pretty much the wording he used.

I'm sure we'll see these papers in like two weeks when he also releases his in-depth healthcare plan we've all been waiting on for nine years.

In other words, even when given the best chance he could ask for he could not justify his claims at all.

And his sycophant followers will eat it up.

Ding! Ding! Ding!

 

[F1fan]

There was a giant issue at the Capitol and across several states because Trump and his co-conspirators came up with an elaborate scheme to keep him in office that also involved breaching voting machines and setting up fake slates of electors.

He didn't just peacefully leave office on January 20th. This is some of the worst revisionist history I've seen yet.

He had no choice but to leave the White House. It was asked at the time what would happen if he refused to leave and the answer was that federal marshals would force him out. They would take him into custody if necessary. He was informed of this. So he had his belongings packed up, including many boxes of documents that belonged to the USA, and left. The man/baby didn’t even attend the inauguration ceremony as is tradition. What a crybaby snowflake.

 

[Watchmen]

Trump fake electors plot - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

You are delusional if you believe Trump - a man who told thousands of this followers to march on the Capitol building on the day and at the very time that the vote against him was to be ratified while telling them that election was rigged, while writing up a slate of fake electors to be substituted for the real electors - was not making a deliberate effort to hold on to power.

Delusional.

Did he leave office as scheduled?

And keep the name calling to a minimum. And does your woke tolerance only apply to those who agree with you?

 

[Watchmen]

No, they did not. Trump lost 60 times. Those defending the results of the election won 60 times. Both sides do not lose in court cases. What are you drinking tonight?

What are you drinking? I was referencing the "other" lawsuits . . . not Trump's lawsuits.

 

[Watchmen]

He tried to get the military to back the coup, they refused. Trump doesn't get credit because his Generals said no. These are the same Generals that today are telling us that he is a fascist, the same Generals that Trump is saying are guilty of treason.

Trump is a lot of things. Make no mistake. But has he been tried and found guilty of treason, or is this just the narrative his haters are using on the eve of a pivotal election?

 

[Altfish]

Trump consistently outperforms polls by about 2%. That is going to be the margin of victory.

I've already laid in a supply of spray on tan that I plan to resell to you Yanks at an incredible mark up.

Except since roe v Wade was overturned, it is now the Dems over performing

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Did he leave office as scheduled?

I'd say the more relevant questions are:

- did he participate in scheme to get forged EC votes counted in place of the real ones?

- did he try to have the person overseeing the election murdered when that person didn't go along with the plan?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

The others lost too. Apparently they weren’t “valid” either.

In the biggest lawsuit against Trump, the finding wasn't that he's not guilty or that he's eligible to serve as president. The finding was that Congress is the body with the authority to make the determination that his treason makes him ineligible.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Trump is a lot of things. Make no mistake. But has he been tried and found guilty of treason, or is this just the narrative his haters are using on the eve of a pivotal election?

He's got a trial coming up.

Timeline: Criminal probe into Trump's efforts to overturn Georgia election results

Here's a look at how Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis' investigation into efforts to overturn the 2020 election results in Georgia has unfolded.

abcnews.go.com

 

[Shaul]

Another strange case of projection.

It's MAGA that have demonstrated that they will behave violently and irrationally if Trump loses.
There has been no indication that Democrats would behave the same.

Anti-Trumpers have called Trump a Fascist and "Hitler". Some of them are so deranged they truly believe that! People that believe in such things are certainly capable of violence. They have posted social media messages wishing for Trump to be killed. There have already been multiple assassination attempts on Trump. It isn't even hypothetical anymore. There are anti-Trumpers that have already taken to violence.

 

[Watchmen]

He's got a trial coming up.

Timeline: Criminal probe into Trump's efforts to overturn Georgia election results

Here's a look at how Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis' investigation into efforts to overturn the 2020 election results in Georgia has unfolded.

abcnews.go.com

Yep.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Anti-Trumpers have called Trump a Fascist and "Hitler". Some of them are so deranged they truly believe that! People that believe in such things are certainly capable of violence. They have posted social media messages wishing for Trump to be killed. There have already been multiple assassination attempts on Trump. It isn't even hypothetical anymore. There are anti-Trumpers that have already taken to violence.

So did J.D. Vance. And?

What's violent about using your words to describe a person who is displaying certain tendencies? Should we all just shut up about how Trump is literally quoting Nazi propaganda? Nah.

The people who tried assassinating Trump weren't from the "deranged" far left. They were from your side.

So again, I have to point out that the only group that has actually, literally engaged in violent behaviour when the election didn't go their way are ..... MAGA. Your pontifications about "the left" are pretty hollow, in light of what happened on January 6th.

This is just more projection from the MAGA crowd. You guys did it, so you're afraid others are going to do it too.
It's like the boss I used to have that always imagined everyone was constantly screwing him over because he was constantly screwing over everyone else.